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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27339025 - 06/07/21 04:32 PM (7 days, 11 hours ago)

Hmm well.. I tried different mixtures.
First i tried around 80% manure with 20% verm plus gypsum. Pasteurized with sous-vide stick at 73 degrees celsius. Took me about 2 hours to get substrate core temp to 73 degrees.Then i pasteurized for 2 hours.
I even tried pasteurizing for 12 hours..
A mix im trying now is 40% manure 40% straw pellets 20% verm and gypsum.
i tried different spawn sub ratios from 1:2 to 1:4.
Have been trying different cultures..
But same result.. loosing many trays on contamns.. Really frustrating.
I covered my trays with saran wrap and have been poking little holes for a little gas exchange.
Maybe i should provide more gas exchange?
I never had this many contamns with cubes..

Thank you very much for your help :smile: !


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Moopers]
    #27339075 - 06/07/21 05:24 PM (7 days, 10 hours ago)

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I'm mostly done building JCM's FC. One outstanding issue is the lid. The tub I bought had a clear lid, but the tub wasn't tall enough. So I switched to an extra tub I had that's the right height but has an opaque white lid.

If I use the white lid, will the light that comes through the many lid holes be enough? Is bright light important for pans?



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I think it is. You can look for lights used in aquariums and put it inside the tub, taped or tied to the lid.




Apologies, I should to clarify: I will have the two lamps clipped to the tub that shine down onto the lid, like in JCM's writeup. It won't be lit only by ambient light.

Will that direct lighting through the holes be enough light, or still not sufficient?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smurfreak]
    #27339150 - 06/07/21 06:27 PM (7 days, 9 hours ago)

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Hmm well.. I tried different mixtures.
First i tried around 80% manure with 20% verm plus gypsum. Pasteurized with sous-vide stick at 73 degrees celsius. Took me about 2 hours to get substrate core temp to 73 degrees.Then i pasteurized for 2 hours.
I even tried pasteurizing for 12 hours..
A mix im trying now is 40% manure 40% straw pellets 20% verm and gypsum.
i tried different spawn sub ratios from 1:2 to 1:4.
Have been trying different cultures..
But same result.. loosing many trays on contamns.. Really frustrating.
I covered my trays with saran wrap and have been poking little holes for a little gas exchange.
Maybe i should provide more gas exchange?
I never had this many contamns with cubes..

Thank you very much for your help :smile: !




Is your horseshit leeched? If not, try doing that. Soak it in water and then just drain the water and squeeze it out until the right moisture content, and THEN pasteurize.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27339635 - 06/08/21 05:03 AM (6 days, 22 hours ago)

Im not totally sure if my poo was sufficiently leeched..
I got it from a local farmer. He said its pretty old.
It was totally dry and didnt smell at all.
Could leeching really be my source of problems?
Afaik leeching is only done for getting rid of pee and ammonia.
Do you think this could really be related to contamns?
Maybe because of endospores or  PH which favors contamns?
Maybe i should clean up the poo a little more by getting rid of most longer weeds..
i just saw the video lets grow mushrooms - on horse manure. Roger Rabbit said he doesnt mix up spawn by hand cause he could damage the grains and expose their inner to contamns..
This could be also be the problem im having..


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smurfreak]
    #27339730 - 06/08/21 07:45 AM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

Hmm that's not the problem then. Plant seeds is the last idea that comes to my mind which could be causing contams. Damaging grains is not a problem. The mycelium colonizes the inside as well.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27340008 - 06/08/21 12:05 PM (6 days, 15 hours ago)

Greetings! Can anyone tell the story of the creation Panaeolus cyanescens Aussi X bali Indonesia?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27340052 - 06/08/21 12:45 PM (6 days, 14 hours ago)

I built me a shitty lil FC out of some aquarium shit and an SGFC I had laying around. Drilled a few more lines of inch and a quarter and inch and a half holes in bottom of the inner chamber so it's more like a basket above the water.
Been fucking around with it for a few days on some different aged spawn.



Moved a majority of this to my journal to not etch this in stone. till it fingered out. much better setups already public. N I'm giving up on this box fast for pans. greenhouse going up in the next few days and starting fresh. Have a few new batches finishing in dub tubs till then


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: angam]
    #27340076 - 06/08/21 12:54 PM (6 days, 14 hours ago)

I would try shopping with a trusted vendor for some good poo made for mushrooms. Sounds like you have spent some time and are frustrated. Spend some money. Then you will know if your technique is needing help. Also I would stick to a 50/50 mix. Straw nice and short about 1 inch. These guys like it fluffy and should outrun the tray with a clean culture. I also do like jcm and spawn to a bag then crumble to a tray. That way you know your 100!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Moopers]
    #27340082 - 06/08/21 12:56 PM (6 days, 14 hours ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Moopers said:
I'm mostly done building JCM's FC. One outstanding issue is the lid. The tub I bought had a clear lid, but the tub wasn't tall enough. So I switched to an extra tub I had that's the right height but has an opaque white lid.

If I use the white lid, will the light that comes through the many lid holes be enough? Is bright light important for pans?



Quote:

nosf3r4tu said:
I think it is. You can look for lights used in aquariums and put it inside the tub, taped or tied to the lid.




Apologies, I should to clarify: I will have the two lamps clipped to the tub that shine down onto the lid, like in JCM's writeup. It won't be lit only by ambient light.

Will that direct lighting through the holes be enough light, or still not sufficient?



It won't be sufficient imo. That why I recommend a light source that you can install inside the fc. Aquarium led lights are waterproof.
Or maybe it will be sufficient,... IDK... That's just my opinion.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27340138 - 06/08/21 01:42 PM (6 days, 13 hours ago)

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It won't be sufficient imo. That why I recommend a light source that you can install inside the fc. Aquarium led lights are waterproof.
Or maybe it will be sufficient,... IDK... That's just my opinion.



I went ahead and took your advice and used a clear lid from the original tub. It's a bit too large, but it seems to be fine. Rh is staying around 95-97%.

Thanks for your input!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: angam]
    #27340222 - 06/08/21 02:49 PM (6 days, 12 hours ago)

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Greetings! Can anyone tell the story of the creation Panaeolus cyanescens Aussi X bali Indonesia?




Sounds like one of Jakeoncids creations...


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Cy-an-awe]
    #27340306 - 06/08/21 03:57 PM (6 days, 11 hours ago)

Thank you very much for your response!
I dont find trusted vendors for poo in my country..
But that idea also came into my mind.
Was also thinking about mixing up in a bag. But since i have no flowhood i have to do it in a SAB. Could be complicated to handle bags and spawn inside SAB. Maybe sealing a bag before PC it and injecting LC works?
One more thing that came into my mind is my pasteurization temperature.
IS it possible im running it too high? I saw RR tries to mantain 60C - 70C.
I always pasteurized with 73 degrees.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: smurfreak]
    #27340323 - 06/08/21 04:08 PM (6 days, 11 hours ago)

I think 73 is great, mine even jumps close to 80 when I'm not careful for short time, but doesn't tend to cause problems.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27340416 - 06/08/21 05:37 PM (6 days, 10 hours ago)

Hi guys, PVH first flush super tiny, tall, small caps. FAE?



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gt40]
    #27340690 - 06/08/21 09:33 PM (6 days, 6 hours ago)

P. Bisporus showing germination on LME agar. Will take transfers either tomorrow or the day after from the fastest growing sections on a couple of these plates.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gt40]
    #27341923 - 06/09/21 06:52 PM (5 days, 8 hours ago)

Looking good :super:

Been a very long while since I’ve been active on the forum hehe, thought about sharing some old pics. Might be starting soon again hope my 5ish year prints are still viable :facepalm:

 


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #27342483 - 06/10/21 06:02 AM (4 days, 21 hours ago)

Hey Teemo nice to see you back! If your prints dont work I can send you some of mine.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27343100 - 06/10/21 03:01 PM (4 days, 12 hours ago)

How is this looking? Is this overlay? Any advice?



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Moopers] * 1
    #27343182 - 06/10/21 04:05 PM (4 days, 11 hours ago)

Yeah it’s slight overlay but still well within the acceptable range imo.


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    #27343247 - 06/10/21 04:54 PM (4 days, 10 hours ago)

sup yall just poppin in to say hello😃 im  fixn to streak some plates tom now that my jambo run is done. i just been super fuckin busy lately and havnt had much time for shit. i just wanted to let everyone know i havent bailed on yall lol


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