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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27260114 - 03/19/21 09:22 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Jake.  If I get some clean growth on the oats, is it worth pulling a grain and retrying that way? 

And as for the agar I already put some spores on, I'm just gonna try to grab some myc that out runs the bacteria right? 

Last time I did agar, I ended up neglecting them because I had way too many mushrooms and was kinda done growing.  It was interesting to see the plates that started out bacterial ended up getting swamped over with mycelium if you left them long enough.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Josex]
    #27260181 - 03/19/21 10:10 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Josex said:
I grew something, I believe they're pans lol They look sporeless to me, maybe albino? Some pics of the trays the day I harvested and a couple pics of pins when they started to pop up.


Not gonna lie there's a nagging little thought at the back of my mind these might be a contaminant mushroom.:lol:
The myc on the plate I used to make the LC def looked like pan myc, the cakes I crumbled smelled unmistakably like pans too and when pins started to pop up they looked like legit pan pins to me.

Does this happen often?




Hey Josex,

I had a similar experience with Ps Subaeruginosa. Everything looked normal and I was over the moon. They were exposed to the outdoors so I wanted to see them print and nada. The gills had a similar look:

Grow and picked fruit.



Anyway, thought I'd share, I know it's not a Pan but it relates to your Pan grow and might add confidence. Something squirmy about eating any mushroom when anything seems just a touch off.

Btw, your biopsy method rocks. I've been successful with clean Pan LC, and now Libs and Atl#7. Super thankful for that writeup.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: angam]
    #27260202 - 03/19/21 10:26 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Excellent Pan Jake! I still can't wait for the print...to enjoy the growth.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: savan73]
    #27260205 - 03/19/21 10:29 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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savan73 said:
I'm thinking about making agar with wheat water.

Recipe: 250 ml wheat water + 5 gr agar + 5 gr dextrose? Is this ok?

another questions is, I did no-pour PDA agar and I inoculation cube and pan cyan spores to plates. Cube spores had germination but Pan Cyan spores hadn't. Room temp was 18-22 °C

What was the problem?


What do you guys think?




This should work although I’ve never used this recipe, for stubborn pan spores I like to use peptone.
Sugar and starch total should not exceed 8% but if you use peptone count it for double the weight of other sugars.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] * 1
    #27260243 - 03/19/21 10:41 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Today is a good day, my first pin set is looking good, and I received some white widow, and ephedra sinica seeds in the post



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: The Dalcassian]
    #27260394 - 03/19/21 12:39 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)



CFL jar didn't seem to recover too great from shaking 7 days ago, hopefully I'm just used to cubes :shrug:

Thinking it's ready to spawn though so I'll be doing that later on today. No bags so I'll just be going straight to a few trays with 1:4


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheDoobsker]
    #27260401 - 03/19/21 12:44 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

That jar looks a little bacterial to me. Also, I think the general consensus is to not shake pan jars but I may be wrong on that. Hope it works out for you! I've got a few cube projects to finish up before I jump into pans


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27260420 - 03/19/21 12:56 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks bigfoot I hope it works out too

Hmm what makes you think bacterial? The donor plate was definitely clean. As far as shaking, I think it's fine for pans


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheDoobsker]
    #27260438 - 03/19/21 01:07 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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TheDoobsker said: Hmm what makes you think bacterial?




The fact that it looks like my jars :lol: excess moisture, a couple areas where there's thick/heavy looking myc next to the wispy myc and how some of the grains look smooshed up against the glass.

Take my opinion with a grain of sand though. I'm still a complete noob trying to figure this out. I learn a lot by saying dumb stuff and getting corrected by people who know what the hell they're talking about so I'd wait for someone else to chime in


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27260445 - 03/19/21 01:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know my arse from my elbow when it comes to pans but the creepy uncle speaks truth about wet looking grains pressed up against the jar.
Normally and indictates bacterial presence.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: The Dalcassian]
    #27260516 - 03/19/21 01:53 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

My pan test jars are nearing completion



I'm getting a 50$ mister/fogger unit, because unlike cubes, pans need both high Fae and very high humidity at the same time?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Josex] * 2
    #27260590 - 03/19/21 02:34 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Josex,
  I also came across this recently when I grew out a wild print.  I was pretty surprised, but folks here tell me that it is not unheard of to come across sporeless pans.  I've kept the culture because I think it looks really cool, and the indigo staining on the white fruit bodies/gills is really beautiful.  I can see sparse black spores on the gills with a hand lens.  Haven't sampled them, but I imagine they don't lack for potency.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: elpico] * 2
    #27260615 - 03/19/21 02:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

It’s usually tropicalis that gives me sporeless fruits


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: elpico] * 1
    #27260618 - 03/19/21 02:49 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Today, the crop is BVI, growing on one hay-manure.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27260621 - 03/19/21 02:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Well minus the 3rd pic I accidentally grabbed that one


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: elpico]
    #27260622 - 03/19/21 02:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

^^^^That's awesome
Excited to see the results of you cloning those josex

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Well damn I sure hope you guys don't know what you're talking about lol just kiddin but seriously. If it's bacterial idk where I went wrong. I had a clean plate and the grain looked good before shaking. Never had a grain jar go bacterial before.

gettin ready to spawn it right now. I usually trust my nose a lot so we'll see how my kitchen smells in about 15 minutes


Edit: spawned

Well honestly, the spawn smelled great. Hopefully the over-prepped rye was all that was causing them sticking to the jar. But the sub kinda smelled like shit. My room mate walked in while I was mixing it. He said it didn't smell like shit but like wet dirt on the side of a river lol. I'm thinking I should have just bought some cow dung from lowes my hpoo was definitely too fresh

Low expectations for this CFL dish but it was a learning experience and I'll be streaking some Nec D later on tonight


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27260625 - 03/19/21 02:51 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

What are the conditions that affect this?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: angam]
    #27260714 - 03/19/21 04:01 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

ya that jars prolly fucked and itl likely not recover from spawning if it was that slow to begin with after shaking. def bacterial


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #27260725 - 03/19/21 04:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Bisporus...cased at the same time as estero. Estero already flushed, while the bisp hasn't even pinned.

Toss it?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread *DELETED* [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27260728 - 03/19/21 04:18 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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