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Peteyboy
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gardenstate]
#23647602 - 09/15/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice haul! That mutant is super cool you should clone it!
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gardenstate
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Peteyboy]
#23648012 - 09/15/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peteyboy said: Nice haul! That mutant is super cool you should clone it!
I found it interesting that mutation was seen throughout the whole grow sporadically. I used the same liquid culture for all of it. Could anyone weigh in on genetics here? I took a spore print to agar and agar wedge to liquid culture. Would it be possible to isolate that mutation so that every fruit would be conjoined?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blindingleaf]
#23648403 - 09/15/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow late to the party but blindingleaf this is exemplary work!
Very cool and POTM winner most definitely.

Just passing by with love. No need to reply.
Take care,
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: saralove]
#23648743 - 09/15/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just cased my first Pan Cyan Jamaican tray and it's doing great thanks to everyone's input on this thread. Thank you very much for your work and lessons. I am beyond excited for my first flush. You guys and gals rock!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Soreidorb]
#23653329 - 09/17/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I cased these Pan Cyan Jamaicans 2 days ago and this is where I am at today
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PutACapInHisAss
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Soreidorb]
#23654336 - 09/17/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't see much from Goliath grows. Is this variety or strain particularly finicky in your experience? I would expect tons of Goliath grows considering the general diminutive stature of Pans but I haven't seen pics of many canopies from such genetics.
Fantastic Mr. Fox: Do you have a link to the RGS Tek you mention? Searching I found a few RGS soak teks but none where you just load the grains/water and PC.
I vaguely remember such a tek for rye from years ago but it must not be that great or surely it would be more popular. I'm all for making my processes quicker and simpler--I've started using eatyualive's oat prep tek with good luck and haven't looked back 
Thanks everyone, I finally made it through the whole thread, I feel like I have a pretty good Pan education in progress and I learned a ton about agar too!
Edited by PutACapInHisAss (09/17/16 10:39 PM)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Soreidorb]
#23654845 - 09/18/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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thx saralove
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Soreidorb said: I cased these Pan Cyan Jamaicans 2 days ago and this is where I am at today

thats crazy overlay. needs needed more FAE. thats nuts if that happened in two days.
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mary fairchild
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Soreidorb]
#23655176 - 09/18/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Soreidorb said: I cased these Pan Cyan Jamaicans 2 days ago and this is where I am at today

I've been seeing that with my Jamaican lately. I get overlay from grows of Jamaican that have been started from agar plates that have been sitting in the fridge too long or have been passaged on agar a lot. The mycelia grows aggressively thru the sub then colonizes the case (but not in 2 days!) and refuses to fruit.
I'm currently doing a cased grain experiment (no substrate) with a clone of Jamaican that has been passaged on agar 9X. Not optimistic cuz the environmental conditions here aren't good right now.
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d0urd3n
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
#23655256 - 09/18/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seems like the sub came out a bit dry after pasteurization. Hopefully it will be alright. It should colonize really fast, based on how these Pan cambo act on grain. Once it colonizes, then maybe I can bottom water. 



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: d0urd3n]
#23659393 - 09/19/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow I've missed out on some great grows. Good job guys! Esp you leaf, beautiful man.
Looking good, d0urd3n XD
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PutACapInHisAss said: I don't see much from Goliath grows. Is this variety or strain particularly finicky in your experience? I would expect tons of Goliath grows considering the general diminutive stature of Pans but I haven't seen pics of many canopies from such genetics.
Fantastic Mr. Fox: Do you have a link to the RGS Tek you mention? Searching I found a few RGS soak teks but none where you just load the grains/water and PC.
I vaguely remember such a tek for rye from years ago but it must not be that great or surely it would be more popular. I'm all for making my processes quicker and simpler--I've started using eatyualive's oat prep tek with good luck and haven't looked back 
Thanks everyone, I finally made it through the whole thread, I feel like I have a pretty good Pan education in progress and I learned a ton about agar too!
I don't have a link but its.. 》1 1/2 cup of RGS 》1/2 cup of coffee water
For Oats it's.. 》1 3/4 cup Dry Oats 》3/4 cup coffee water
Add a pinch of gypsum shake, soak for an hour, shake again and PC for 90mins. (RGS only needs 60mins)
(Mycelium grows best in acidic PH of 5-6 so use a ph meter to check the waters ph after adding the coffee add water if need be)
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blindingleaf]
#23659457 - 09/19/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: thx saralove
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Soreidorb said: I cased these Pan Cyan Jamaicans 2 days ago and this is where I am at today

thats crazy overlay. needs needed more FAE. thats nuts if that happened in two days.
Thanks, do you think it will still pin if I increase FAE?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Soreidorb]
#23661963 - 09/20/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You should get some, next time wait till the casing is about 20% colonized.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Nobler Hino]
#23665490 - 09/21/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well despite a lot of overlay, I increased fae and kept it moist. I am happy to report I have pins! This thread has been a huge help.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Soreidorb]
#23665522 - 09/21/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Congrats bro! Be sure to post pics later
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Soreidorb
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I will for sure! I'll probably post a pic first thing in the morning because I've seen 4 more pins come out of the overlay since my last post lol
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d0urd3n
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Soreidorb]
#23665787 - 09/21/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What kind of spawn ratio do you guys like for Pans? Since they like to go multiple flushes, I figured a lower ratio would make sense so I went with 1:4. With cubes I usually go 1:2 or 1:1.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: d0urd3n]
#23665791 - 09/21/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You want 1:2 ideally,
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d0urd3n
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Well then. I only have one quart of spawn so it was kind of irrelevant.
Next time I will do a higher ratio. 
Thanks fox
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No problem bro! You should still get a nice yeild.
More spawn means more fruits tho Which is crucial since they're so small.. In my old tubs I did nothing shy of 6 quarts. 6quarts to 13qts sub
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