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How can I connect with my dad?
    #22215012 - 09/10/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I love him a bunch but he literally complains about EVERYTHING and goes out of his way to try and piss you off. The sad thing is that he really doesn't feel like he's doing anything wrong even though my brothers and I have talked to him about it over and over trying to get him to realize what he's doing.

Every time I feel like we're gaining some type of ground he'll freak the fuck out over the smallest thing and it turns into this yelling match. A person only has so much patience and dealing with him literally drains every last bit I have


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #22215016 - 09/10/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The sad thing is that he really doesn't feel like he's doing anything wrong even though my brothers and I have talked to him about it over and over trying to get him to realize what he's doing.



This pretty much already tells you what you don't want to face. Either accept him for what he is, or move on. Not really anything more to be said on it honestly. You can't force someone to change and if you've already tried over and over, it's not gonna happen. Not unless he just spontaneously decides he needs to on his own.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22215028 - 09/10/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:sad: I know... He'll like degrade/scream at you one minute and then not even 15 minutes later he'll ask you if you wanna go out and do something like nothing ever fucking happened.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22215036 - 09/10/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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~every dad ever






you gotta learn to deal with it, or learn to cut ties. you're a grown ass man.:paperbag:


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215042 - 09/10/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's a little different. Doubt it helps you much, but therapy or psychiatry may be able to help. That's a little different than just being an uncompassionate prick. Sounds more like an actual issue that he's not capable of controlling. I generally side with the "psychiatry is bullshit" people, but some people report change and in the end all that matters is whether the people doing it get help.

However, I imagine he's not likely to go.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215049 - 09/10/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just dose him with some mdma :shrug:


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22215052 - 09/10/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's pretty fucked but I was thinking of asking him to take some with me haha he's tried cubes and cyanescens before but I think the realizations he was having were to much for him to face at that time.
He said whenever he trips he sees his body aging rapidly to the point of it looking like a 90 year old mans. I think the fact that he's getting older is wearing on his psyche and I try to take this into account when dealing with him but sometimes he's just..so fucking unpleasant I can't stand it.

I feel LSD or MDMA would be best.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #22215055 - 09/10/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's only a "yelling match" if you start yelling too.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215078 - 09/10/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lol I was kidding man


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215186 - 09/10/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:sad: I know... He'll like degrade/scream at you one minute and then not even 15 minutes later he'll ask you if you wanna go out and do something like nothing ever fucking happened.



My dad and overall family
Are.negative meanhearted.bipolar people who i am saddened to call my family


Once i leave.the nest i will not look back
I love them and treat them nice regardless of how badly they treat me

It wont be much longer, im much more financially stable, but need to find a full time job instead of part-time. and down the road start doing a skill trade
maybe drywalling, plumbing,


Ive trid so many times to try and become friends with my family
we just aint compatible
doesnt bother me much though


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22215362 - 09/10/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

if my popps was always tripping out like that i'd tell him to chill out in the most sincere way possible. and if he persisted i'd probably start doing the same thing to him ruining his day n shit.

it's like when the fire fighters have to set fire to certain places that are really dried up to avoid bigger fires, in the same sense u become the flame and set fire to these dry places and let them burn in a controlled environment.

speaking of burning up, does he smoke?  :jah:


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: zZZz]
    #22215388 - 09/10/15 03:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yea he smokes almost every night but doesn't seem to calm him down overall


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215396 - 09/10/15 03:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Here's an idea maybe and use it at your own risk because it could backfire as easily as it could make him understand. Record his random outbursts, multiple times, without his knowledge somehow. Then when he's in a calm state sit him down and have him watch it. Maybe when he's not in mid outburst he'll understand why what he's doing is "wrong" and maybe something will click. I dunno, may be worth the shot. :shrug:


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22215402 - 09/10/15 03:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's like something a chick would do..ure prob better off confronting him man to man.

What waz the last thing ur dad complained about op?..

WhAt exactly does he complain about?..


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: zZZz]
    #22215404 - 09/10/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You didn't read OP did you.. :lol: Him and his brothers have already confronted him, multiple times over. That approach didn't work.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22215408 - 09/10/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pulling the blinds up in the kitchen so I could get some light and read the news paper but he wanted them down so he flipped a bitch


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22215414 - 09/10/15 03:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

OFF WITH THE GLOVES!!


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #22215418 - 09/10/15 03:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

DSHSB


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22215420 - 09/10/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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OFF WITH THE GLOVES!!




Which one is supposed to be me? :ilold: They're both kinda pathetic

Wait..

:okay:


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22215426 - 09/10/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The kid man.. that little kid owned that fool..he had enough.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22215427 - 09/10/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Okay I feel a little better.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215498 - 09/10/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You didn't read OP did you.. :lol: Him and his brothers have already confronted him, multiple times over. That approach didn't work.




bitch, dont belittle me

he said multiple times over, when u approach someone man to man you only have to say it once, so think of it like u only have one chance to talk to someone about something, how will u approach them?, what will u say and how will u say it?.. this is key.







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Pulling the blinds up in the kitchen so I could get some light and read the news paper but he wanted them down so he flipped a bitch




i see, have u asked him if he's on his period? :eyebrow:

jk man, im thinking he might have something personal against u and ur brothers or something, like something he's holding back. does he do this to everyone or just u guys?..

are u living under his roof?, do u pay the bills?..


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Salomon]
    #22215501 - 09/10/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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~every dad ever






you gotta learn to deal with it, or learn to cut ties. you're a grown ass man.:paperbag:



I used to hate that my dad did that, I always felt like he never trusted me to be honest and know what I'm talking about. A parent grows with their child and in that time there is a lot of guidance to be had, protecting the kids from themselves. People need to be challenged, and even more so they need to earn the confidence to question themselves and still know what's right. It's annoying as all hell to feel like your intelligence is constantly questioned, but that feeling is only because the confidence needs to be grown to show us that our feelings are fallible, so much more so than knowledge. Without this confidence, without the ability to question ourselves, it's rather difficult to recognize when we have achieved and grown as people and that's very important to our intuition and general outlook on life.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: zZZz]
    #22215507 - 09/10/15 04:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Shroomslip said:
You didn't read OP did you.. :lol: Him and his brothers have already confronted him, multiple times over. That approach didn't work.




bitch, dont belittle me

he said multiple times over, when u approach someone man to man you only have to say it once, so think of it like u only have one chance to talk to someone about something, how will u approach them?, what will u say and how will u say it?.. this is key.




:facepalm: some people are stubborn and refuse to change, it doesn't matter how you approach it. Just because he's tried many times over doesn't he didn't do it the right the first (or all subsequent times).

Just what the fuck world do you live in where everyone can be approached in the "right way" and success is guaranteed?

I didn't belittle you, I will now though. You're a naive idiot.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215509 - 09/10/15 04:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

For me smoking weed with my dad was the beginning of our relationship and friendship and the biggest bonding thing.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215529 - 09/10/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I understand where you're coming from.  My Dad was quite a little asshole to me and my brother growing up.  It was his way or a beating and that was that.  Everyone that wasn't like him (gays, blacks, muslims, catholics, jews) was a threat to his existence.  We tried everything to get him to settle down and nothing.  We told him he was going to give himself a heart attack, and sure enough, he did.

I don't know how old your Dad is, but mine is 65, and he's mellowed out a lot in his old age.  After 33 years of screaming, crying, yelling, and beatings or threats of violence, he's finally lost the wind in his sails.  We have a good-ish relationship now.  At least we can talk without screaming at each other and him threatening to beat the shit out of me.

My guess is that you'll have to wait it out and hope the old man loses some of that fire in his belly to get upset about stuff that doesn't matter.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
    #22215568 - 09/10/15 05:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My dad didn't like that I grew up to be like a foot taller and fifty pounts heavier then him.

He was a distant guy growing up but at a certain point in his middle age he became an out of control gambling addict and because of his gambling my family lost our home, our cabin, our car, he gambled part of my college fun, stole from my sisters, borrowed money from everyone and never paid it back, lost his job, Total melt down.

We are friends now, but I can never trust him or rely on him for anything.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22215585 - 09/10/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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zZZz said:
Quote:

Shroomslip said:
You didn't read OP did you.. :lol: Him and his brothers have already confronted him, multiple times over. That approach didn't work.




bitch, dont belittle me

he said multiple times over, when u approach someone man to man you only have to say it once, so think of it like u only have one chance to talk to someone about something, how will u approach them?, what will u say and how will u say it?.. this is key.




:facepalm: some people are stubborn and refuse to change, it doesn't matter how you approach it. Just because he's tried many times over doesn't he didn't do it the right the first (or all subsequent times).

Just what the fuck world do you live in where everyone can be approached in the "right way" and success is guaranteed?

I didn't belittle you, I will now though. You're a naive idiot.




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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: zZZz]
    #22215596 - 09/10/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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...does he do this to everyone or just you guys?..

are you living under his roof?, do you pay the bills?..




I'd have put some of you fuks out on yer ass by now if you were my kid.:oldman:
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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215620 - 09/10/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I love him a bunch but he literally complains about EVERYTHING and goes out of his way to try and piss you off. The sad thing is that he really doesn't feel like he's doing anything wrong even though my brothers and I have talked to him about it over and over trying to get him to realize what he's doing.

Every time I feel like we're gaining some type of ground he'll freak the fuck out over the smallest thing and it turns into this yelling match. A person only has so much patience and dealing with him literally drains every last bit I have




My dad is 70 and identical to that and the most miserable dude I've ever met and makes it his goal to make everyone around him miserable(or so it seems)

He also tries to make me feel stupid for enjoying anything that isn't work and always has, that even includes things like being big into music, video games, hanging out with friends, literally anything

He never cared about anything from me either, always said he did but for example I'll be speaking directly to him and mid sentence he will turn to someone else and start talking about work like I wasn't even there and has done that literally 99% of the time I've ever tried talking in front of him to the point other people have commented on it and I never bitch IRL about him

I'm not saying this to make my dad sound like a bad guy, we still have a good relationship and I know he cares, but he drives me up the fucking wall and I always hated it so much.

Best advice I can give, either hate him and cut ties, or realize he ain't changing and become passive about it. Kind of sucks either way but in my case it's either accept it or never talk to him again.....literally, he wouldn't talk to me again unless I just accept it, did it to one of my sisters for 10 years until she had to apologize

I take drugs to be more passive, works wonders. Talking to him won't help, only time me and my dad almost fist fought was when I tried to, plus in order for them to change they have to already give a shit about how they effect everyone around them, which they don't and won't, too set in their ways at this point.

It's literally draining just dealing with him but I have no choice at this point, and does what your dad does, flips his shit and 5 minutes later pretends it never happened, fucking infuriating after the 8th time in an hour, all day everyday....


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22215635 - 09/10/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ur dad sounds like one of dem oldschool folks man, i dont know how u managed that shit for so long, one of my bro in law;s grandfather was kind of like that, i real hardass quiet dude.

he used to shoot paintballs at my bro in laws when they were just kids and that ole geezer would laugh his ass off while doing it.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: zZZz]
    #22215665 - 09/10/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I almost feel petty about complaining, but it builds on you when it's 24/7 for 23 years, I just always remember that I am who I am because of him still and he still gave me a pretty good life considering what else it could of been like :shrug: he's a great man with a shit personality and no consideration about how the way he is effects people around him.

Plus he made me realize at a young age what kind of person I didn't want to and I am who I am because of it. When I was younger I would just watch unlimited amounts of standup to forget about it or deal with it :lol: probably how my obsession with it started


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215666 - 09/10/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I love him a bunch but he literally complains about EVERYTHING and goes out of his way to try and piss you off. The sad thing is that he really doesn't feel like he's doing anything wrong even though my brothers and I have talked to him about it over and over trying to get him to realize what he's doing.

Every time I feel like we're gaining some type of ground he'll freak the fuck out over the smallest thing and it turns into this yelling match. A person only has so much patience and dealing with him literally drains every last bit I have





it can't be a yelling match if you don't yell.  obviously he says some shit YOU don't want to hear, and then you tell HIM something HE doesn't want to hear.

you need to treat him like someone in a nursing home.  talk slightly slower, clearer, choose your words carefully.  avoid topics that you know will cause aggravation, and if THEY start to get upset CHANGE THE SUBJECT, OR JUST AGREE even if you don't truly agree.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22215715 - 09/10/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

thats what I've been doing lately is just saying "ok" and walking away but then he follows me and continues to try and keep the argument going, like I actually think he enjoys it since he has nothing to do all day. Anyways once my credit is built a tiny bit I'm out of there. I feel bad because I wanna be best friends and be there for him while he's getting older but it's impossible to just hang around people that constantly bring you down and that you just generally don't have fun with.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215748 - 09/10/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

rebel, you guys should touch wieners.


jk.


umm I don't know. I know with my dad, the only way I can connect with him is to get into the things HE likes. Such as Led Zepplin lol. My dads obsessed with dem boys.


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    #22215752 - 09/10/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215765 - 09/10/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

maybe try saying more than just ok, make him feel like you really really agree with what he's saying.  take hold of the conversation just a little bit maybe so he doesn't get to talk as much.  not like in an argument way, but when its your turn to talk, draw it out a little.

like you say he's doing it because he has nothing else to do.  he's just not good at being social, he doesn't know how to talk without argueing, so it will take time.  hard to teach a dog new tricks.

but switch it up, ask him lots of questions, shit you wouldn't normally ask, like what things were like when he was younger maybe, or talk politic's maybe so he has something to be angry about but it isn't directed towards you, like fuck Russia type shit u know?  BTW Russia just got more involved in Syria. 

but bottom line is I think it can be done you just have to view these conversations a little different, realize when you have control of the conversation, when you can change the subject, when to just listen, and realize he's stuck in old habits and it won't be easy to break him out of it.

Telling him to change won't work because its his natural behavior that he's had forever.  Its like those old people who get old, and then eventually can't do their favorite thing in life, and then they go crazy because they had no other hobbies in life, they have no idea what to do and then their mind goes super quick as they can't handle that.

So maybe talking to your dad isn't even the best thing, maybe instead of talking you should think of some good things to do with him instead, ask him to go fishing, hobbies type shit and stuff and once he has something else in his life talking will just naturally become easier



also pay close attention to your facial expressions when talking to him, try to smile a lot more than you normally would, if you sit there with just a stale facial expression he will pick up on this and react to it without either of you knowing it.  the more you smile the better.  and try your best to not let his expressions affect yours, you gotta put up a wall and hold the positivity in the room for both of you


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22215792 - 09/10/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:raisemyglass: I'm going to try really hard and use the LSD method. Fight hate with love and understanding :hug:


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215799 - 09/10/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just because a lot of people feel a certain way on acid that doesn't mean everyone will. It could actually end up being a pretty horrifying experience.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215803 - 09/10/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:raisemyglass: I'm going to try really hard and use the LSD method. Fight hate with love and understanding :hug:






if that doesn't work, touch wieners :wink:


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22215808 - 09/10/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think he was just joking about the LSD at least I hope so:lol:

I mean obviously LSD/shrooms can help people but only if they are open to the idea, someone who wants no part of it will fight it and horrible bad shit will happen


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22215825 - 09/10/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I just meant using what LSD has shown me to help be understanding to him. But I feel He would really love LSD.

My uncle became schizophrenic and they blame the LSD so I don't think that will ever happen. I remember my dad saying he might want to try it be he has the misconception that the peak is 12 hours.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22215928 - 09/10/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I love him a bunch but he literally complains about EVERYTHING and goes out of his way to try and piss you off. The sad thing is that he really doesn't feel like he's doing anything wrong even though my brothers and I have talked to him about it over and over trying to get him to realize what he's doing.

Every time I feel like we're gaining some type of ground he'll freak the fuck out over the smallest thing and it turns into this yelling match. A person only has so much patience and dealing with him literally drains every last bit I have





I'm guessing the first connection should be his testicles to a car battery

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    #22215969 - 09/10/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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you gotta learn to deal with it, or learn to cut ties. you're a grown ass man.:paperbag:



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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22216024 - 09/10/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I seem to be in a fairly similar sictuation
My dad and family over are just egocentric entitled negative people who i am saddened to call my family

My dad.is planning a conspiracy to kill my neighbors dogs before he moves
when the owners are the people who suck and raised them wrong

Im alays nice to my family while im under there roof, but i always call out there bs
Some people are just un  intelligent man, and sometimes that includes your family

Its sad but ive come to accept that fact my family has always been broken with lots of violence, mental abuse


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: SunnyD]
    #22217535 - 09/10/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can't wait for my grandpa to be too old to not listen to me
'You know you were a shit grandpa who didn't call, and I blame you for dad being a fuck up and dieing before fourty' flat line. I will enjoy that
Fuck, why are so many families so aweful? It is so sad. When it isnt hitting, yelling, resentment, distain for the traits that make one themselves, it is silence and tension. Don't want to upset the old man, his fucking fragile vagina will just shatter if you say anything he doesnt agree with.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22217969 - 09/10/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

look around its not just old people, the government/mass media instills this ideaology in everyone now. 


everything is offensive


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22217976 - 09/10/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can't wait for my grandpa to be too old to not listen to me
'You know you were a shit grandpa who didn't call, and I blame you for dad being a fuck up and dieing before fourty' flat line.
I will enjoy that
Fuck, why are so many families so aweful? It is so sad. When it isnt hitting, yelling, resentment, distain for the traits that make one themselves, it is silence and tension. Don't want to upset the old man, his fucking fragile vagina will just shatter if you say anything he doesnt agree with.



The fuck is wrong with you? You've got some major issues of your own, and I suggest dealing with them before you think you deserve to judge people as harshly as you just did. That is some major lowlife shit you are spewing, let alone blaming te fucking guy for your dad not being a responsible adult. Way to deflect blame. :rolleyes:


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22220502 - 09/11/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I blame him too, but people who get offended when the parents are blamed are fucking stupid. I stand by that, and I'll personally turn off his life support if I can rather then a nurse, as I did my other grandma. Though, not out love and responsibility. I also blame him for being toomstupid to get the internet, or some books on diabetes, and shoveling down whote bread and carbs with my grandma every day since she got type 2. I also blame myself for not researching these things before dad died,and helping him kick suger. I also blame this shit hole siger addicted country, and the fucking stupid doctors who give diabetics noodles and bread.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22221385 - 09/11/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have to be the father to my dad because he's 36 but with a 15 year old mentality and is always contradicting my emotions . I'm happy to see him , but he's pissed off that I don't live with him and "father" him all day. He's mad that I have a life with friends because they take away my time with him.
the reality is that he was partying in the 90's when I was an infant and chose to make drug bound decisions which ended him living away from us kids - in Benita houses and shelters. But he blames my grandma for abducting his kids just because they lived with her. She was never my parent, but he hates that I live with her and always complains when I'm over. He thought moving to my location (middle of nowhere) from the most happening place "imo" would increase traffic flow at his house but nobody wants to see a narcistic peson who uses the closest person and then blames people for  abusing and taking money from him.  But he does it to himself.


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Re: How can I connect with my dad? [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #22221392 - 09/11/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Reminds me of my dad. Idk just don't take him on when hes going off, you should know him well enough I guess. My 2c not really any golden advice here.

My dad and I are pretty good. Accept him he loves you mannnnnn. Jk your relationship could me completely fucked too. Hope alls well.


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