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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22217907 - 09/10/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not against preserving forests, it is the preservation programs put in place by the civilized world that make my first fact true, I'm just against suggesting that the sky is falling.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: twoseeeye]
#22218008 - 09/10/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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twoseeeye said: Don't believe that garbage. Point 1. there are more trees now than there were 100 years ago. 2. marine plants, including algae produce between 70-80% of the worlds oxygen. Nuff said I think.
we have more tree's because they cut down the big ones and replanted tiny ones that may or may not even live. so those numbers may or may not be correct on the tree's and even if we do have more tree's we surely don't have more O2 coming from them, and we surely aren't going to let them get as big as they used to be either before we go chop chop chop again, and that cycle as has already been happening leads to deserts n shit so yah tree numbers will be going down not up.
all the little forests around here that people don't even chop down for lumber are dieing, none of them look healthy when you actually go in and look at them or look at them in the winter really well you'll notice it.
for some reason tho they manage to get fairly big along roads, guess its lack of competition
also the tree's cut down in the congo DON"T get replanted, they are just savagely ripping that shit apart with no regard for the age of tree's, infact they target the oldest ones first for their value
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22218053 - 09/10/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Our planet is mostly oxygen, it isn't going anywhere. O2 on the other hand...
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: fapjack]
#22218083 - 09/10/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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fapjack said: Our planet is mostly oxygen, it isn't going anywhere. O2 on the other hand...
Huh, I thought that was Silicon but I just googled it and it turns out that it is Oxygen.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: DieCommie]
#22218119 - 09/10/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: But the oxygen doesn't go away does it? I mean the O atoms still exist, they just get locked up in forms that we aren't able to use.
Yes. It does not get "consumed".
Reactants are consumed when they react with each other
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: koods]
#22218123 - 09/10/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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But atoms do not, not in chemical reactions. Oxygen is an atom.
One uses this fact to balance chemical equations.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: DieCommie]
#22218135 - 09/10/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly. O and O2 are different.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22218170 - 09/10/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe the trees by the road get bigger because trees breath the evil C02 our cars produce. IDK. I do have faith however that as the less civilized countries expand and become more civilized, they will adapt policy more in line with ours, and furthermore I submit that its likely to happen before we all run out of air. The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones, after all.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22218178 - 09/10/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think some atmospheric oxygen does diffuse off into space and get lost permanently.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: twoseeeye]
#22218184 - 09/10/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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so with all the sea life dieing, ocean acidification, ect ect, and since plankton provides most of our air apparently, it means our air supply is even more fragil because all the plankton could just die over night if it hits the wrong PH.
so infact our tree's are extremely more important, as they are our only real safety net if the ocean goes turds up on us
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: psi]
#22218189 - 09/10/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting. I've not heard that before. So are new oxygen atoms actually created? I thought they were just re arranged by plants of phytoplankton into useable O2.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: nicechrisman] 1
#22218216 - 09/10/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's limited a lot by the protection of Earth's magnetic field I believe. Not sure how much new elemental oxygen may be produced by nuclear processes on Earth.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: psi]
#22218220 - 09/10/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting stuff
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22218250 - 09/10/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Apparently the magnetic field has a lot to do with the planet having a molten core. I think a lot of the planets and moons in out solar system with minimal atmospheres have cores that cooled down and became solid, so they lost that protection.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22218259 - 09/10/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If the ocean goes turds up we're fucked, the trees would never produce enough oxygen to sustain all of us and every other oxygen breathing creature. Maybe your question should have been about oceans acicifying rather than trees being chopped. I'd say that's a more valid concern.
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: twoseeeye]
#22218737 - 09/10/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Both are extremely valid environmental concerns.
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another potential killer for the plankton is that radiation from those nuclear plants, they could cause a DNA mutation in either the plankton, or the food that it eats, that causes it directly or indirectly to stop making O2, and it just continues to breed like that until all that's left is mutated plankton
can someone tell me why this photo shows up when I search fukushima mutations????
it really puzzles me, its like the 2nd picture listed are those silly japaniese making fun of americans for worrying about their reactors or what
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: Nifflerz]
#22218805 - 09/10/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: but I thought I always heard that the amazon was "the lungs of the earth" I assumed they meant for air
Nah, the amazon self proclaimed that slogan. Seems pretty arrogant if you ask me.
yeah, stupid fucking trees!
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#22220201 - 09/11/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Marijuana plants produce massive amounts of oxygen
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Re: Oxygen how much do we have left? [Re: psi]
#22220357 - 09/11/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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psi said: I think some atmospheric oxygen does diffuse off into space and get lost permanently.
It wouldn't be much because the air pressure is so low and O2 is a fairly large molecule. The molecules need to collide in the right direction and gain enough energy to break through the magnetic forces, which isn't a common event. Gas molecules gain speed as their temperature increases.
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