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Convikt Kelly
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: invitro]
#22409749 - 10/20/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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invitro said: Chemical taste in the bud from no flushing? I've done blind taste tests with friends and noone can tell the difference between flush and no flush.
LOL what? You and your friends arent very observant then. Its crazy obvious. Besides, just because you cant taste the chemicals doesnt mean they arent there and certainly doesnt mean its safe to smoke them.
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invitro

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Convikt Kelly said:
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invitro said: Chemical taste in the bud from no flushing? I've done blind taste tests with friends and noone can tell the difference between flush and no flush.
LOL what? You and your friends arent very observant then. Its crazy obvious. Besides, just because you cant taste the chemicals doesnt mean they arent there and certainly doesnt mean its safe to smoke them.
I'm just saying I've met people who brag about how they've smoked for decades, they can definitely tell etc etc... when it comes down to a real test they all fail.
And what exactly are these dangerous chemicals that aren't safe to smoke that are in miracle grow? Can you tell me?
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Convikt Kelly
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: invitro]
#22409793 - 10/20/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Id be willing to wager every little component of miracle grow is unsafe to smoke, would you ever ingest the fertilizer as it is in any way let alone smoke it up? No of course not, so dont leave it in your plant!
Aside from the obvious difference in taste you can also tell by the harsh smoke and the colour of the ash if your buds have been flushed or not.
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Convikt Kelly
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: sweetpea]
#22409813 - 10/20/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dont trust a website called grow weed easy LOL
When you flush a plant it causes the nutrient stored in the leaves to deplete yes, then the plant pulls out excess nutrients from the buds into the leaves in an effort to not die of starvation.
So in fact the "myth" you copy posted is actually not a myth
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invitro

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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: sweetpea]
#22409977 - 10/20/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The dangerous chemical thing could go either way: "Scotts' Miracle-Gro was exceptionally low in contaminants. Nine of the 10 Miracle Gro products tested would have passed the strictest test proposed by environmentalists - a test opposed by Scotts, whose lobbyist argued there was no proof of harm from higher levels of toxic metals.
On the other hand, Scotts also sells a product, "14-3-3 FFII," with 78 parts per million of arsenic, 10 times the background level, and seventh-highest among products registered with the state."
Source link: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000326&slug=4011973
I don't think a flush can truly solve all your chemical build up problems though as about half of the minerals need for plant growth are not transportable from bud to leaf. That's in one of the grow Bibles, Rosenthal I think.
And really instead of saying 'chemical; you should probably say 'heavy metal', because that's real concern isn't it? Something tells me the plant is not going to actively transport heavy metals like lead, mercury etc, from the bud anyway because the leaf doesn't need it to live.
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Convikt Kelly
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: invitro]
#22409985 - 10/20/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well im not interested in arguing tonight and ruining the solid buzz I got going on so congrats you win.
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Convikt Kelly
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: sweetpea]
#22410020 - 10/20/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im in a great mood right now thats why I didnt want to argue. Also never accused anyone of trying to argue I can just see where this was going to go. I guess im sorry also lol
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Convikt Kelly
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: sweetpea]
#22410045 - 10/20/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Taker' Easy  PS I tried to rate you positively but you only have trade ratings?
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invitro

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It's still possible that the flush helps, they say the chlorophyll content causes a harsh smoke right? And nitrogen is transportable from one leaf to the next. Maybe a good cure would mellow out the smoke either way though. I do appreciate the opposition as it gives me motivation to backup what I'm saying with a little more research.
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Spanishfly
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: invitro]
#22410244 - 10/20/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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invitro said: What yellow tip burn? I don't see any burn, it looks healthy. 30-0-0 definitely a big mistake. I use 10-30-20 with no burning. Nice looking plant overall. Chemical taste in the bud from no flushing? I've done blind taste tests with friends and noone can tell the difference between flush and no flush.
Totally agree with all you say invitro - when I was growing MJ on my roof I always used higher P & K ferts, never N on its own - you want good roots at all stages of the plant´s growth. And I could never find any virtue in so-called flushing, either, never found any difference whatever in taste, so stopped doing it. But my plants were always totally organically grown - I even grew my own Russian comfrey to make a kick-ass fert.
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Photos From October 20th, 2015: First Day of Flowering.
This photos were taken 3 days ago from today. I moved the plant to a dark spot in my backyard where the LED outdoor lights would not hit the plant.




I just realized that i am flowering this plant WAY too late. I was trying to veg the plant to a larger size, but it was growing so slow, this is big as it got.
Oh well, Ive updated my mood to reflect where Im out, Screwed.
If it dies before ending its flowering, oh well, theres always next year to grow another
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Sade
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sorry to say man but I don't think that plant will make it. Or flower I mean. Too close to winter. I had the same problem in the past. Didn't realise a high intensity light was stopping it from flowering when it needed to outside.
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: Sade]
#22424626 - 10/23/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You could always take cuttings/clones to keep it going through the winter, if you don't want to source more seeds next spring. I have a couple "Bonsai Mothers" that I have kept alive since June or so, and they hardly take up any space.
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Re: First LEGAL Marijuana Plant! [Re: mandrin13]
#22425138 - 10/23/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some bonzais would be awesome.
I still might flower inside, if i have the money to do so.
If not, and the plants, oh well. I have a local source for clones and they are $20, as much as a seed! Worth it.
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Spanishfly
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When the TOP leaves start going yellow, it is on its way out, I am afraid.
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