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amp244
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Anyone know what genus these are?
#22212564 - 09/09/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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These guys were growing out of the ground right on the four-wheeler trails behind my house here in northern VA. They were fruiting abundantly, just about everywhere you looked. I can run back and take a spore print if necessary, but I figured I'd see if anyone is familiar with these first.
I have pictures of clusters of various maturities.



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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: amp244]
#22212672 - 09/09/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pic 3 Armillaria sp
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amp244
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: antity]
#22212937 - 09/09/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice. I'm thinking I've got Armillaria tabescens. Thanks buddy.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: amp244]
#22212972 - 09/09/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Otherwise known as "The Rotting Mushroom" and or Honey Mushrooms i believe?
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amp244
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Yep, parasites attacking the roots of trees. Some of the largest if not the largest organisms in the world. That would explain why they were covering about 500 square feet of ground. Edible if cooked thoroughly.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: amp244]
#22214418 - 09/09/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They all look like honey mushrooms to me.
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Those are actually really good if you only eat the cap. Fry it up with some butter and a little garlic powder
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amp244
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Looks like ill be heading out back to snag em up. There are lbs upon pounds. I'll do some spore printing, KOH, and microscopy just to be 100% but I'd like to try them out.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: amp244]
#22214516 - 09/09/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Make sure the prints white
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Quote:
Rebelutionsssss said: Those are actually really good if you only eat the cap. Fry it up with some butter and a little garlic powder 
seconded.
good stuff, amp. give em a go.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: relic]
#22216281 - 09/10/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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amp,
as far as edibles, have you tried looking in the park on the north side of the rappahannock river in that 1/2 mile long log/debris jamb? right across from the city? i forget the name of that park.
harvested many, many pounds of wine caps there since the fruitless spring ovoid hunts.
now i'm second guessing myself about whether you're in this area or not lol.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: relic]
#22217036 - 09/10/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you talking about Old Mill Park? I haven't hunted that area. But I hava kayaked down the Rappahannock and searched on the banks for ovoids with no luck. Im just getting into hunting so I may very well have overlooked winecaps while hunting oviods.
Here are some pics of the haul
On roots....




 Cluster from the side

 multiple clusters in the distance.
 Up close on one of the clusters. Fruiting from a stump.
 Is this a hemlock tree? I read that the fruits coming from hemlocks can cause gastrointestinal upset, so I left those clusters be...
 Some rotten ones.
 Some more rotten ones.
 White print. I'll stick em under the microscope when I get back home from work.
 Total haul. It was about half of the mushrooms that were out there in my immediate vicinity. My bag got full and I couldn't scoop anymore.
 Some of these guys were pretty large!
Not too bad either. They had a bit of a snap to em. Pretty tasty. I'll be frying em up over the next couple days for sure.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? *DELETED* [Re: amp244]
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: stevo]
#22217429 - 09/10/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I keep a close eye on the Honey Mushrooms in these parts too...its signals begining of Fall season and when they dissapear that usually means gyms are around =D
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: amp244]
#22217478 - 09/10/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Old Mill is on the south side of the rapp. curiosity prodded me to look it up...looks like i was referring to Port of Falmouth Park and River Road Park which if you didn't know better seem like one long park along the north bank of the rapp, just east of the falmouth bridge.
there is a half mile plus log and debris jamb on that side of the river that is some of the best woodlover habitat you'll see. i searched that debris jamb for a total of about 12 hours last spring looking for ovoids, but only came away with awesome wine cap spots.
if you like those Armillaria, you should try the Stropharia rugosoannulata.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: relic]
#22217508 - 09/10/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh and that tree is a dead conifer of some sort (obviously) but it's hard to say which species. around these parts they're usually cedars but it's particularly difficult to ID from a picture and when they're dead.
also, the bark doesn't look quite right for a cedar unless i'm just trying too hard because it's a pic/not in person.
from what i've noticed, there are very few hemlocks down here by the fall line in central VA.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: relic]
#22217568 - 09/10/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey man, be careful talking about specific hunting locations especially when you say "looking for ovoids"
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yeah, gotcha.
needless to say there were none to be found there or i wouldn't have mentioned the location on the open forum, but i get what you're saying. it's a great habitat in general but void of what i was mainly looking for.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: relic]
#22218992 - 09/10/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea man ive searched around as well. It's funny cause some people on here both north and south of our location find them by the truck load. I can't imagine that they are not in these parts, the specific habitat may be eluding us.
But back on the honey fungus, I just cooked some up and added them to a pesto/butter sauce (added some garlic powder as per Rebelution's suggestion) and tossed it in some angel hair pasta... Not bad at all. Nothing to really write home about but you can't beat free food growing wild on your property. They were weeds 12 hours ago, now they are a Virginia delicacy haha.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: amp244]
#22220866 - 09/11/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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amp244 said: But back on the honey fungus, I just cooked some up and added them to a pesto/butter sauce (added some garlic powder as per Rebelution's suggestion) and tossed it in some angel hair pasta... Not bad at all. Nothing to really write home about but you can't beat free food growing wild on your property. They were weeds 12 hours ago, now they are a Virginia delicacy haha.
my impression of the Armillaria i ate was p much the same. didn't blow me away but almost anything fried in butter is good eats and free can't be beat.
i did notice that one patch i found out in the foothills had a nice nutty flavor to it, but the ones from the woods behind my house were meh. maybe try some from a different patch if you come across them.
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amp244
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: stevo]
#22235954 - 09/14/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol, I didn't take a particular note of any invasive smell. One a side note however, when I was taking a spore print I let one of the caps sit for about 24 hours wrapped in tin foil and when I opened it up to check on my print the cap was crawling with these little white maggot looking things. Kind of turned me off of eating anymore of them...
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: stevo]
#22237549 - 09/14/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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your smelling rotting mushrooms.
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Re: Anyone know what genus these are? [Re: stevo]
#22237761 - 09/14/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Could be a mushroom of the stinkhorn (Phallaceae) variety hidden under something nearby; usually smell a bit like rotten meat mixed with off mushroom, can normally smell them from quite a distance and are relatively common.
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