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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22217335 - 09/10/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think he's just trying to be nice because everyone else seems to enjoy being a dick. Constructive criticism is helpful but a lot of posts in this thread are completely mean spirited. Both sides of the argument are valid.
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: SirShroomsAlott] 2
#22217369 - 09/10/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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She's got informed opinions on worthwhile stuff, and I generally like reading her posts and interacting with her. That's enough reason for me to care enough to say something. I'm not going to bail her out of jail or anything, but I don't like the idea of her fucking up her life and the world around her for any reason that isn't a good one, especially when she's otherwise not an idiot. Mostly though, I want to understand what's going through her head when she does this stupid reckless impulsive stuff (I'm sure she'd like to understand it too), and she's one of the few people making these kind of mistakes that also has the capability to have a halfway decent thought and be able to express it. She's my best chance at understanding this shit, and that by itself makes her continued well being valuable to me. I'll care now, while it can still do some good, and I hope she'll do the same.
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: Crystal G] 6
#22217381 - 09/10/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Crystal, you know how your life ends if you keep doing the things you describe, right? pretty cliche, but you are a great storyteller; concise, clear, informed, experienced
i don't believe you want to become this scripted train wreck, and i don't think anyone else on this site does either, your charisma and vibrance are magnetic for so many reasons, you have people's attention, and you are clearly not nose picking on the subway stupid
how can we help?...or do you come here for the preachey goodness and colorful chaos you create with your posts? are you warning or entertaining us?
the same as anyone that does or feels the things/ways you do, i wish you positive changes, i know i am not alone for anyone taking your posts seriously
but if you'd prefer a healthier interest in you continuing to publish your stories 'from the edge', here's one?,.....'i made it to Seoul from Pyongyang without so much as a look from the locals wondering why i was wearing nothing but a racoon codpiece, kept my cards safe-er, easily outran the norths snipers, the bags of meth taped to my ass with reflective tape were solid gold especially at dusk....'
i seriously wish you all the best, more than most
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: masspan] 1
#22217402 - 09/10/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good post. You articulated everything I kinda wanted to say but sucked at saying. +1
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: larry.fisherman]
#22217427 - 09/10/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: I think he's just trying to be nice because everyone else seems to enjoy being a dick. Constructive criticism is helpful but a lot of posts in this thread are completely mean spirited. Both sides of the argument are valid.
You may be right, my apologies moonrock, I just lost a very close friend of mine to drugs so seeing people act like there isn't a problem since that's how my dumbass friend thought hit's a nerve a little.
When drugs start effecting your life negatively, theres a problem, I can understand why some members berate her when her post have probably been like this forever but mainly because she always seems to brag and glorify it as if it's a good thing. So sorry if I was being douchey but it jus seemed like he was trying to act like crystal isn't fucking up and anyone who thought so was below him.
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: Uzziel]
#22217438 - 09/10/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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history repeats itself
Crystal, what's your plan for the night?
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22217448 - 09/10/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: ... You should stop defending her as much as people should stop slamming her, and no offense, but you come off like you feel you're above everyone else, you find other post mundane and naive which you seem to acknowledge as proof they're and there's people who think the same of yours, get off your high horse, we all get it, you're mature and sophisticated and everyone who doesn't think like you isn't and is  ...
Where did I defend her? I said I like her contributions, which is simply the truth, and that alot of the people criticizing her are boring and much less likable than Crystal G, which again is just true.
It literally is a bunch of people who showed up in the past couple years showing how knowledgeable they are by calling Crystal names when they are far from perfect themselves i.e. a hypocrite. Everyone who has been around long enough to know her likes her because she is an interesting and understanding person. That is true regardless of what drugs she is or isn't doing.
I tried to give Bill the best advice I could because I feel like I have been where he is at. It hurts me to see people make the same mistakes I did, and I hope that he can learn sooner than me why it is a mistake to depend on heroin. I know how he feels down to resenting the people he's forced to be around, and feeling that he is above them, but he's not. My criticism of his thread has to do more with that than me disliking him because he is a heroin user. He is also an interesting person, and I enjoy his posts as well, but he can be a bit naive sometimes like the people I am ranting against here, but I also think he is in the process of growing up and working hard to improve.
Me and Crystal have talked about the ups and downs of addictions for years now. We're not especially close and it's kinda ridiculous to say that I'm backing her up because I'm her stalker considering that the main thing I think me and Crystal have in common is that we're incredibly self-involved and thrive off of being emotionally independent. My admiration of her goes alot deeper than sexual attraction, and I can't think of another person that is like her. She's the type of person that lives her own life without regard to what others think she should or shouldn't do, so I think to say that she uses drugs because of anything to do with the people here at the shroomery is an insult to who she is.
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22217461 - 09/10/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think that she uses them to escape the pressures of her tiger mother
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22217466 - 09/10/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Man you are such a hypocrite.
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22217472 - 09/10/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My mistake friend, this thread (and bills honestly) just hit a nerve with me and I typed before I thought because i was angry about shit I just went through involving this kind of stuff, and sorry if I direcTed it at you.
I do respect her living her life and making her own choices without regard to what other people think, but when it starts to effect their lives negatively it might be time to start listening to what others have to say and what they think about it, just my and with that I'll leave
Edited by SirShroomsAlott (09/10/15 03:58 PM)
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22217614 - 09/10/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's allright, I understand where people are coming from, it's frustrating sometimes and nobody is trying to deny that. I don't hold grudges because people have emotional reactions to stuff, but when I see people coming in using pretty much the most hateful language possible supposedly as a tool to help someone I just know that person has their head stuck up their own ass. That isn't helping anybody, and I feel compelled to pick it apart because I know it is not really founded in caring about other people, it is founded in frustration that you're incapable of controlling others, which even when you're right, is wrong. If someone's only tool to help someone get clean is expressing contempt, I seriously doubt they have what it takes to be a friend to anyone.
I always had people that stuck by me in my real life despite the fact that I made mistakes, and I know from experience that does make a difference. I'm not saying that my words are going to motivate anyone else to get clean, but I know they are better than people who think that hatred is a solution to anything.
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zappaisgod said: I think that she uses them to escape the pressures of her tiger mother
It wouldn't surprise me, but it's got to be more complex than that I think. I can definitely see how trying to live a double life is harmful, and that is something I think some of us learn to do at a very young age. To me being honest with yourself and the people who actually care about you is incredibly important, much moreso than keeping up the appearance of having it all together, and people with authoritarian parents seem to have an especially hard time with this. Someone must have had to care in order for her to turn out so capable tho, so I think if anyone can turn it around it is Crystal G.
If she is continuously drawn to the streets and what comes along with it, she is tougher than me and maybe has more going on inside than we can understand. I can relate to that, but in the end living so rough wore me down and I was forced into learning to live my life around quiet healthy routine. I never even thought that was in me, but once I realized I felt better without abusing drugs it changed everything. Applying that same energy and drive towards something more productive would be quite impressive I think, but the choice has to be hers or it won't mean anything.
I know you're actually in the process of doing that Crystal, but it's a struggle that's just life.
Edited by moonrockmushy (09/10/15 04:39 PM)
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22217651 - 09/10/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course it is certainly more complex but I think that was the genesis of her self hatred
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: zappaisgod]
#22217661 - 09/10/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is a great song with a great line. The song is Heroin by Lou Reed and the line is "I'm going to try to nullify my life"
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: twoseeeye]
#22217674 - 09/10/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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twoseeeye said: They took everything but left you with money to offer the guy who gave you a ride? Strange. I'd get a rape kit though if that happened.
I think generally a woman can tell if she was raped, even if they have no recollection of it.
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: zappaisgod]
#22217682 - 09/10/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Of course it is certainly more complex but I think that was the genesis of her self hatred
Yeah it's one of those things that I'm talking about, in the end I can't hate on anyone who doesn't understand because if they don't now, they will. Sometimes there are circumstances out of our control and things that are basically part of who we are that we have to overcome. Even if you're somehow a person that does everything right, which I'm not sure exists, you're going to suffer because the people you care about are going to be out of your control. Might even be enough to drive someone to self-destruct themselves and if someone has not faced adversity before I think they are just as vulnerable as everyone else, just less aware.
I mean the drugs are never the problem really. They're just a symptom.
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: Crystal G]
#22217688 - 09/10/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is all fine & dandy until you come across that one motherfucker. It's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". 
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: ModestMouse]
#22217815 - 09/10/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: You mean people around you are losing interest in psychedelic drugs as they age?
Yeah I think that's a common trend. Psychedelics seem to be strongly used by people up until their mid-late twenties
Not true bro. I fried on acid again last night (2nd time this week), this time I had a CRAZY trip and decided to do something completely out of the blue.
I turned all the lights off while tripping balls, grabbed a pen and paper and drew while completely disoriented and blind and hallucinating in a confused and deranged state of mind. I was like "HOLY SHIT!!!! THIS IS SO MUCH OF A BETTER HIGH THAN PCP. THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME RUSH I GET FROM DOING PCP N OTHER THRILL RISKY SHIT. The confusion, the disorientation, I FUCKING LOVE IT."
I have to come back at some point and post the artwork that resulted. Bear in mind I'm no Damm artist at all, but it ended up coming out really tucking cool.
K well that's all I have to report back folks. Now how on earth do I confuse and disoriented myself like that without drugs? I'm seriously thinking about looking into some sensory deprivation SHIT now. BRB guys
Edited by Crystal G (09/10/15 05:54 PM)
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: Crystal G]
#22217829 - 09/10/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been doing some sensory deprivation tank sessions lately. Pretty cool stuff. There's one in Costa Mesa that has a really competitively priced introductory package.
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: nicechrisman]
#22217832 - 09/10/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said:
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twoseeeye said: They took everything but left you with money to offer the guy who gave you a ride? Strange. I'd get a rape kit though if that happened.
I think generally a woman can tell if she was raped, even if they have no recollection of it.
They absolutely can. They can sense something feels off with their body. It's absolutely true. Even their vagina feels different.
And no, I was not raped in kensington that night. Nowhere close. I was not penetrated in any way. Lmfao
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Re: Got Robbed in a Philly Ghetto While High Out Of My Mind on PCP [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22217851 - 09/10/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Everyone has a spoogefest anytime someone brings up ketamine, but bring up something that isn't popular with middle-class neo-hippies and all the sudden everyone saddles up their high horse.
Which is hilarious because PCP and k are practically the same fucking drug effects wise, except PCP is way more stimulating and k is just depressing.
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