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Best benzo for bad trip anxiety?
    #22211442 - 09/09/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hello friends. I have had some rough moments while tripping before where I really needed a benzo of some sort. Perhaps even taken right before dosing. Not that I would do this often at all. And please don't be demeaning in your response. But what would be the most effective benzo to use during a bad trip to smooth things out, but not necessarily kill the trip? Kratom seems to help a lot. But what else may help?


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22211466 - 09/09/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you're looking for a benzo to ease anxiety throughout a trip, the benzo you should choose could vary depending on the length of effects of the psychedelic with which it is intended to be used. It also varies from person to person, though. Everyone reacts differently to different drugs. Klonopin does absolutely nothing for me, for example, while even the smallest dose of Xanax just knocks me out.

I would do a search or maybe check erowid.org to find out the length of effects of the various benzos.


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22211469 - 09/09/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I use 10mg valium IME, doesn't kill the trip and chill me out especially after rolling my muscles tense up and lock up.But everyone different and has different reactions to benzos...But I never like to eat a Benzo before a TrIp. save for the tail end of it is best IME.:seriousthumbsup:


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: superbob57] * 1
    #22211489 - 09/09/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Etizolam has done me well. Save it for if you need it,, don't just take it before you trip, IMO. It dulls the experience too much. But does make for a more recreational experience...


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22211542 - 09/09/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A fast acting one will help the best in a bad trip

Alprazolam, etizolam etc


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: SunnyD]
    #22211856 - 09/09/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22213096 - 09/09/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I'm thinking kratom and maybe xanax as needed


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22213830 - 09/09/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

if yer worried about anxiety during a trip, take a benzo before your dose.  it is really fun and you are care free.  i absolutely love benzo tripping and i recommend it to anyone with anxiety towards tripping.

etizolam is the best benzo for tripping problems, although it not really a benzo.  i have found that xanax and mushrooms go well together.  acid and klonopin go together great.  take like 1 or 2mg of xanax, depending on yer tolerance, then eat the shrooms an hour later.


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #22214463 - 09/09/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I found this chart helpful when having a similar question

benzo comparison chart

As was already said, your reaction to each one may be different than someone else's.

If I decide to trip on a weekday, I take Xanax when I'm ready for bed, it shuts down the busy boomer brain in about 30 minutes for me.

I've never taken one before a trip so can't help you much there-

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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: SynKyd]
    #22214535 - 09/09/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Xanax for sure. Kicks in really fast and only lasts a short while so you're not all out of it the entire rest of the night


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22214547 - 09/09/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Benzos are cool on the way down when you wanna fall asleep. If you really need to take benzos before you dose why are you even dosing?


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22214874 - 09/09/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

IME, I believe xanax works best for me personally. I have also tried klonopin, ativan, and valium. Klonopin and valium are a much onger lasting but less powerful. Ativan didn't do much but relieve some tension and made my visuals a bit more subtle. That's why I like xanax to abort a trip the most, seems to wrk best IME because xanax hits me a lot quicker and a lot harder but doesn't last as long as klonopin or valium. 

 
  All in all any benzo should help ease a trip. My suggesttion is say 2mg xanax if you end up in a bad trip. It will end it within the first 30 mins. Good luck on you adcenture


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22214883 - 09/09/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: SunnyD]
    #22214930 - 09/09/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22219722 - 09/11/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ok so I decided to dose yesterday and had most of today off work. I took 4 grams of red thai kraTom in gel capsules. Waiting about 1.5-2 hours. Was feeling great and confident. I then drank 1.7 gram tea, put my mindfold on and I think i may have even fallen asleep. Kinda of like a super vivid dream that I barely remembered. I was so d relaxed already. I then made another 3 gram tea and proceeded to have once of the best trips I ever had. Things got really confusing and I was even crawling on the floor staring at people in the parking lot thinking they saw me haha.

I took a hit of weed and blasted off. I might have gone out of body or just entered some sort of dream trance. I would wake up. Move around and then fall back into this trance. Really weird visions that I was apart of, not just observing. It was truly beautiful.

I ended the come down with a lot more weed, 2 beers, a valium and plenty of food and water. Amazing.


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22220708 - 09/11/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Does anyone know how well clonazepam goes with psychedelics? I have absolutely zero experience with benzos but thought they would ease my next lsd trip if it goes down south. :shrug:


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Hemuli] * 2
    #22220764 - 09/11/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You should really refrain from taking any benzo during a trip though just because the tough experiences are apart of tripping and pushing through those without a chemical aid really makes you a more experienced and understanding psychonaught


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22220771 - 09/11/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You should really refrain from taking any benzo during a trip though just because the tough experiences are apart of tripping and pushing through those without a chemical aid really makes you a more experienced and understanding psychonaught




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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22220995 - 09/11/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
You should really refrain from taking any benzo during a trip though just because the tough experiences are apart of tripping and pushing through those without a chemical aid really makes you a more experienced and understanding psychonaught






I use to abuse benzos mixed with massive doses of psychedelics and stimulants
It takes away and all  personal gain to the point of when you comedown you wanna trip again and agai


Benzos should be a last resort


Also if your life is going good, and your in a good set setting
you should almost for sure have one  of the most euphoric trips of your life


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Re: Best benzo for bad trip anxiety? [Re: SunnyD]
    #22221968 - 09/11/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have a bunch of 10mg oxazepam tabs.

I have never actually taken any, but I plan to use em as a sleeping aid. Being a family man and all I just cant find the time to be awake for nights and days. Acid especially keeps me up forever. After 12 hours the trip is def over but my mind is somehow still kinda wired for another 6 to 8 hours.

Oxazepam has great anti-anxiety properties too. Anybody have any experience with those?

I am wondering how long if would take for them to have effect. Medical data shows peak blood levels between 1 en 2 hours after oral ingestion


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