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Both parties are equally evil and only a blinkered ideologue would think otherwise. Is it just gop pushing through tpp, spying on us, going against state legal pot, etc? No, its both and obumble is the front man for all that evil stuff. Is he gop or dem? I forgot.
He is against the pipeline because he took bribes to make sure he was against it. It hurts the common person same as letting the illegals stay, he is surely evil as hell.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
#22427089 - 10/24/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see climate change as the most immediate threat.
Everything else you listed I've seen the GOP support.
As far as these bribes supply a source.
And yes, I said they're both corrupt as fuck. I reserve the word evil for those actively killing our environment and our future for profit.
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My ex used to have friends that called me an "earth rapist" I took it as a compliment
I only asked if you knew why Obama doesn't support keystone because I was genuinely curious if climate change had something to do with it, that said, moving oil by rail is far more polluting than moving it through a pipeline, so if your worried about emissions, a pipeline would be the obvious choice. Or you could just stagnate the economy so people are not moving goods, driving places, buying more fuel...
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paperbackwriter said: I see climate change as the most immediate threat.
How immediate? What are the threats in your opinion?
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It's crude oil. Those pipelines leak or break. The pipeline was set to cross reservation land in spite of tribal protest. The oil would go from Canada to China. The number of permanent U.S. jobs from it was small.
I hope your kids find daddy being an earth rapist cute.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
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paperbackwriter said: I see climate change as the most immediate threat.
How immediate? What are the threats in your opinion?
Mass extinction. We lose a few species from an ecosystem shit can get fucked up really fast. Losing a few dozen scares the fuck out of me.
It's a major reason I'm on this site. Learning to cultivate all sorts of mushrooms so I can have food even if the environment changes substantially.
Edit: As far as immediacy I see the effects already. Record breaking floods, earthquakes, hurricanes. Glaciers melting.
Shits just gonna get worse and the longer it takes us to grow up and take responsibility for the damage we're doing the worse we'll be off ten or twenty years from now.
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paperbackwriter said: It's crude oil. Those pipelines leak or break. The pipeline was set to cross reservation land in spite of tribal protest. The oil would go from Canada to China. The number of permanent U.S. jobs from it was small.
I hope your kids find daddy being an earth rapist cute.

Isn't the transport of oil on rail multiples worst?
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paperbackwriter said: I see climate change as the most immediate threat.
How immediate? What are the threats in your opinion?
Mass extinction. We lose a few species from an ecosystem shit can get fucked up really fast. Losing a few dozen scares the fuck out of me.
It's a major reason I'm on this site. Learning to cultivate all sorts of mushrooms so I can have food even if the environment changes substantially.
I believe human behavior is responsible for climate change, but I don't think drastic measures should be mandated to change it.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
#22427183 - 10/24/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No.
We transport more by rail. This accounts for the higher incident ratio. Pipelines still spill more when they do spill. In part because they're much harder to contain.
Over an eight year period we spilled three times as much from pipelines.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
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I see it like addiction. You can't cut the supply without killing the host. I recognize that many people depend direct on oil to support their families and that most of us depend on it daily just to function.
I don't support drastic measures but I certainly think it's a conversation we need to be having and that we need to start making changes sooner rather than later.
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paperbackwriter said: Maybe the poll numbers are bunk. I figured it was because a minority is more electable against Hillary.
I think a lot of Hillary's poll numbers are based on the same idea. Hillary has a better shot than a Socialist, at least in the minds of many voters and regardless of which of the two they think would be a better president they see the GOP as far to evil to risk the election on an outsider.
Lol, only the hardcore leftists see the GOP as "evil"
Not really. The GOP is far more corporatist, and when GOP politics are put in practice, Kansas falls apart. Sam Brownback.
GOP politics destroy lives. We can't afford to continue the GOP policies that have been destroying all opportunity for America's youth for more than a decade now, as Obama has done, and Hillary will do.
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Edit: As far as immediacy I see the effects already. Record breaking floods, earthquakes, hurricanes. Glaciers melting.
Climate change causes earthquakes? and then they wonder why we call them "libtards"
However you are right about climate change, it's a known fact that before the Industrial Age, the climate was static, there were no floods, (stupid bible) no hurricanes either. That's a fact.
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har har.. another third person shot at us libtards. I'd fire back with a 'conservatards' but as far as I know that really just applies to you and burgerbrain.
Fracking causes earthquakes. This is fact.
There's evidence climate change in general is causing earthquakes too. The link between ice sheet retreat and geological activity is pretty well documented.
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paperbackwriter said: har har.. another third person shot at us libtards. I'd fire back with a 'conservatards' but as far as I know that really just applies to you and burgerbrain.
Fracking causes earthquakes. This is fact.
There's evidence climate change in general is causing earthquakes too. The link between ice sheet retreat and geological activity is pretty well documented.
Id love to see the link between fracking and earthquakes,
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Then google it. It's well documented.
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paperbackwriter said: har har.. another third person shot at us libtards. I'd fire back with a 'conservatards' but as far as I know that really just applies to you and burgerbrain.
Fracking causes earthquakes. This is fact.
There's evidence climate change in general is causing earthquakes too. The link between ice sheet retreat and geological activity is pretty well documented.
Id love to see the link between fracking and earthquakes,
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomzeller/2015/01/06/yes-fracking-can-be-directly-linked-to-earthquakes/
How does it feel to never be right about anything?
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Ha! An opinion piece? That's your "proof"? I'm always fucking right, get used to it
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paperbackwriter
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The USGS has a whole page on it. But you don't really seem to care for opinion or science.
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hostileuniverse said: Ha! An opinion piece? That's your "proof"? I'm always fucking right, get used to it
And lol, that 'opinion' piece opens by linking the data. Much as the one I linked the other day did when stonehenge tried this same shit.
You really need to start thinking for yourself and quit parroting what you see other terrible posters do. I mean it was cute and all but frankly it's getting old.
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Bigbadwooof
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hostileuniverse said: Ha! An opinion piece? That's your "proof"? I'm always fucking right, get used to it
... Based on a study:
http://www.seismosoc.org/Society/press_releases/BSSA_105-1_Skoumal_et_al_Press_Release.pdf
You're never fucking right, bro! lmao
By the way, the only thing Rush is 99% of the time is an asshole.
You should stop getting your information from such terrible sources.
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