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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22329411 - 10/03/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I wondered the same thing when he basically endorsed govt control of the Internet...




You're against net neutrality too!?! LMAO

Jesus, you really take the party line right down crony lane. I guess you have your marching orders. Talk about a fucking puppet.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22329431 - 10/03/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What's really confusing is that some drug-culture people want Big Government Socialism to control the daily lives of people including drug use. WTF happened?

Why can't you survive without Big Gov there to tell you what to buy, how to live, etc?



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I wondered the same thing when he basically endorsed govt control of the Internet...




Net neutrality zombies here too?
http://www.redstate.com/2014/05/03/tech-night-zombie-net-neutrality-just-wont-die/

Dude I thought I would find more anti-gov people on this forum, not a bunch of Big-Gov socialists


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22329438 - 10/03/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
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What's really confusing is that some drug-culture people want Big Government Socialism to control the daily lives of people including drug use. WTF happened?

Why can't you survive without Big Gov there to tell you what to buy, how to live, etc?



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I wondered the same thing when he basically endorsed govt control of the Internet...




Net neutrality zombies here too?
http://www.redstate.com/2014/05/03/tech-night-zombie-net-neutrality-just-wont-die/

Dude I thought I would find more anti-gov people on this forum, not a bunch of Big-Gov socialists




Redstate.com! lmao! Omg, you really are a partisan propaganda zombie.

Net Neutrality is the greatest thing that has ever happened to this country.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22329446 - 10/03/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
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burgerbrain said:
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What's really confusing is that some drug-culture people want Big Government Socialism to control the daily lives of people including drug use. WTF happened?

Why can't you survive without Big Gov there to tell you what to buy, how to live, etc?



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I wondered the same thing when he basically endorsed govt control of the Internet...




Net neutrality zombies here too?
http://www.redstate.com/2014/05/03/tech-night-zombie-net-neutrality-just-wont-die/

Dude I thought I would find more anti-gov people on this forum, not a bunch of Big-Gov socialists




Redstate.com! lmao! Omg, you really are a partisan propaganda zombie.

Net Neutrality is the greatest thing that has ever happened to this country.




LOL please explain why NN is "The greatest thing" . I can't wait.

Why do you love more government control in your life?, it's really sad.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22329537 - 10/03/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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LOL please explain why NN is "The greatest thing" . I can't wait.

Why do you love more government control in your life?, it's really sad.




You must be aware, at this stage in your life, that you don't really understand anything.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22329539 - 10/03/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
LOL please explain why NN is "The greatest thing" . I can't wait.

Why do you love more government control in your life?, it's really sad.




You must be aware, at this stage in your life, that you don't really understand anything.





I see you must resort to personal attacks, and can't answer any questions. Poor kid.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain] * 1
    #22329552 - 10/03/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I see you must resort to personal attacks, and can't answer any questions. Poor kid.





I noticed that some time ago.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22329758 - 10/03/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
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burgerbrain said:
I see you must resort to personal attacks, and can't answer any questions. Poor kid.





I noticed that some time ago.



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Stonehenge said:
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burgerbrain said:
I see you must resort to personal attacks, and can't answer any questions. Poor kid.





I noticed that some time ago.




I had respect for the guy until he did that shit.

Him and his socialist buddies; The Ecstatic, paperbackwriter, ballsalsa, all gave me "Troll" ratings on my page.

Funny stuff considering they won't bother to answer any direct questions and resort to personal attacks.. hey a lot like Trolls


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22329947 - 10/03/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
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Stonehenge said:
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burgerbrain said:
I see you must resort to personal attacks, and can't answer any questions. Poor kid.





I noticed that some time ago.



Quote:

Stonehenge said:
Quote:

burgerbrain said:
I see you must resort to personal attacks, and can't answer any questions. Poor kid.





I noticed that some time ago.




I had respect for the guy until he did that shit.

Him and his socialist buddies; The Ecstatic, paperbackwriter, ballsalsa, all gave me "Troll" ratings on my page.

Funny stuff considering they won't bother to answer any direct questions and resort to personal attacks.. hey a lot like Trolls




Liberlas tend to do that shit, gang tactics are much the same, they hate individualism, if you don't think like them, they are the BORG, prepare to be assimilated...


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22330201 - 10/03/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol if you're against net nutrality I'm not sure you completely understand how the internet works or maybe your cable/internet bills or how your isp could turn the internet from a world of free information (the poor mans key to free speech in modern times) into another cable-like pre-package of bullshit :shrug:


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: airclay]
    #22330231 - 10/03/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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lol if you're against net nutrality I'm not sure you completely understand how the internet works or maybe your cable/internet bills or how your isp could turn the internet from a world of free information (the poor mans key to free speech in modern times) into another cable-like pre-package of bullshit :shrug:




keyword: "could"

These new laws always have a dire consequence to NOT pass. They scare the public into voting the new law into effect.

I'm not sure the sheeple that want Net Neutrality know how things work.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22330364 - 10/03/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
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lol if you're against net nutrality I'm not sure you completely understand how the internet works or maybe your cable/internet bills or how your isp could turn the internet from a world of free information (the poor mans key to free speech in modern times) into another cable-like pre-package of bullshit :shrug:




keyword: "could"

These new laws always have a dire consequence to NOT pass. They scare the public into voting the new law into effect.

I'm not sure the sheeple that want Net Neutrality know how things work.




Literally the only people in America who want to do away with Net Neutrality are big cable companies like Comcast and Time Warner. They know they have the market monopolized, and they can make enormous profits off of doing away with Net Neutrality.

Even most right wingers support Net Neutrality. The fact that you're against it is a clear demonstration that your opinions are derived from right-wing propagandist sources, and not your own. If you understood this issue at all, you would not be against Net Neutrality!

On the other hand, maybe you like the fact that all of the news organizations on TV are owned by a small handful of people, who use them to spread lies and propaganda. That is what they want to do to the internet. Maybe you want the internet to be that way.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22330409 - 10/03/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
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burgerbrain said:
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airclay said:
lol if you're against net nutrality I'm not sure you completely understand how the internet works or maybe your cable/internet bills or how your isp could turn the internet from a world of free information (the poor mans key to free speech in modern times) into another cable-like pre-package of bullshit :shrug:




keyword: "could"

These new laws always have a dire consequence to NOT pass. They scare the public into voting the new law into effect.

I'm not sure the sheeple that want Net Neutrality know how things work.




Literally the only people in America who want to do away with Net Neutrality are big cable companies like Comcast and Time Warner. They know they have the market monopolized, and they can make enormous profits off of doing away with Net Neutrality.

Even most right wingers support Net Neutrality. The fact that you're against it is a clear demonstration that your opinions are derived from right-wing propagandist sources, and not your own. If you understood this issue at all, you would not be against Net Neutrality!

On the other hand, maybe you like the fact that all of the news organizations on TV are owned by a small handful of people, who use them to spread lies and propaganda. That is what they want to do to the internet. Maybe you want the internet to be that way.





OMG they can make profits when they do away with Net Neutrality? OMG the horror "Profits" LOL What the fuck do you think the last 20 years of the internet has been? It's been without net neutrality.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22330450 - 10/03/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
OMG they can make profits when they do away with Net Neutrality? OMG the horror "Profits" LOL What the fuck do you think the last 20 years of the internet has been? It's been without net neutrality.




No. We have always had Net Neutrality. You clearly don't understand this issue at all.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22331175 - 10/04/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
OMG they can make profits when they do away with Net Neutrality? OMG the horror "Profits" LOL What the fuck do you think the last 20 years of the internet has been? It's been without net neutrality.




No. We have always had Net Neutrality. You clearly don't understand this issue at all.




This week, news broke that the Federal Communications Commission is considering new rules for how the Internet works.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/04/the-best-writing-on-net-neutrality/361237/

HAHHAHAHAH, you're a joke. "We have always had Net Neutrality" ... When did the First Net Neutrality start, kiddo? 1992?

How can we have meaningful discussion when even the basic facts elude socialists?


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22331683 - 10/04/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

dude, it's obvious that you aren't technically proficient in or understand the history of the www at all. Not an insult, just an observation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carrier
https://www.eff.org/issues/net-neutrality


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22331843 - 10/04/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Him and his socialist buddies; The Ecstatic, paperbackwriter, ballsalsa, all gave me "Troll" ratings on my page.

Funny stuff considering they won't bother to answer any direct questions and resort to personal attacks.. hey a lot like Trolls




I rated you a 0 for spamming the Bernie Sanders thread with memes, which was obviously you trolling.  I also reported you for that and several of your own personal attacks on other posters.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22331931 - 10/04/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Him and his socialist buddies; The Ecstatic, paperbackwriter, ballsalsa, all gave me "Troll" ratings on my page.

Funny stuff considering they won't bother to answer any direct questions and resort to personal attacks.. hey a lot like Trolls




I rated you a 0 for spamming the Bernie Sanders thread with memes, which was obviously you trolling.  I also reported you for that and several of your own personal attacks on other posters.




And rightly so, he needs to learn that only the lib socialists are allowed to personally attack people...


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22332202 - 10/04/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OMG they can make profits when they do away with Net Neutrality? OMG the horror "Profits" LOL What the fuck do you think the last 20 years of the internet has been? It's been without net neutrality.




No. We have always had Net Neutrality. You clearly don't understand this issue at all.




This week, news broke that the Federal Communications Commission is considering new rules for how the Internet works.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/04/the-best-writing-on-net-neutrality/361237/

HAHHAHAHAH, you're a joke. "We have always had Net Neutrality" ... When did the First Net Neutrality start, kiddo? 1992?

How can we have meaningful discussion when even the basic facts elude socialists?




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Internet activists revved up, and FCC chairman Tom Wheeler, who is a former lobbyist for cable and cellular companies, defended the new position. Wheeler said companies would not be allowed to "act in a commercially unreasonable manner to harm the Internet, including favoring the traffic from an affiliated entity."

Network owners wouldn't gouge consumers, he promised.




http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/04/the-best-writing-on-net-neutrality/361237/

This is a classic case of revolving door corruption. A cable company lobbyist is running the FCC, and trying to pass legislation on their behalf, with the promise that they won't be bad! LMAO

I didn't realize you took the government for their word on promises.

This is corruption at its finest. We've always had Net Neutrality, and you haven't proven otherwise. Net Neutrality allows everyone on the internet equal usage of bandwidth. If you get rid of Net Neutrality, cable companies can extort companies like Netflix, and small internet startups for large sums of money just to do business online.

The 'invisible hand' doesn't work in this scenario, because the internet has become a relatively inflexible demand curve, and it is completely and utterly duopolized. Time Warner and Comcast have been trying to merge for years, but anti-trust laws are preventing them from becoming a one company monopoly of the market. They do however, allow eachother their own territories, and do not compete with one another.

When you post a link, you should quote the line that you believe supports your argument, because I don't see anything in here that does.

Here is where it says that the internet has always had Net Neutrality:

Quote:

This idea of net neutrality—this cherished idea, even, among Internet entrepreneurs and activists—has a long history, roughly as long as the commercial world wide web. It is, Harvard law professor Lawrence Lessig has argued, what makes the Internet special. 

He used to call the principle e2e, for end to end: "e2e. Not b2b, or b2c, or c2b, or b2g, or g2b, but e2e. End to end. The core of the Internet, the core value that defined its power, the core truth that made innovation around it possible, is this e2e," Lessig said in a 1999 talk. "The fact – a fact – that the network could not discriminate in the way that AT&T could."

Comcast couldn't privilege its own content over Netflix's or PBS' or Disney's or your blog's. He explained: "The network was stupid; it processed packets blindly," he said. "It could no more decide what packets were 'competitors' than the post office can determine which letters criticize it."

This was not just a nice thing, it was the very nature of the Internet. Without it, the Internet will become, as Tim Wu put it, "just like everything else in American society: unequal in a way that deeply threatens our long-term prosperity."




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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22332833 - 10/04/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We've always had Net Neutrality, and you haven't proven otherwise.



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This idea of net neutrality—this cherished idea, even, among Internet entrepreneurs and activists—has a long history



Your own link says "the IDEA of Net Neutrality has been around" - The Internet didn't have these new rules until recently, kiddo.


Net neutrality started on Friday.
A federal judge on Thursday rejected cable and phone companies' attempts to stop net neutrality in its tracks. That means the FCC's plan for new Internet rules go into effect as planned.
Here's what that means for you:
What changed Friday? The FCC will be able to assert extra authority over the Internet to establish net neutrality.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/12/technology/net-neutrality/


LOL. Tell the sheeple that the sky is falling and they will vote for anything.


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