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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Wah]
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Stonehenge said: People thought Reagan was a joke at first too. A movie actor running for president, it was unheard of.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Trump 2016 is just what nobody believed Palin 2012 would become, but it's becoming.
Trump wants Palin in his cabinet. I'm sure he'll line up some real allstars for us ;-)
Btw, Reagan broke America. Let's not forget what a disaster that turned out to be Stoney. Please don't hail Reagan on a drug website of all places!
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: The middle east was relatively stable compared to today. Do any of you claim obumble has made things better? He has wasted trillions of dollars and all we have to show for it is lots of blown up stuff, many dead people and lots of hate toward usa.
Where is the evidence trump will put palin in the cabinet? When rational people make statements, the left is quick to demand proof but they say wild things with nothing to back it up.
I never praised Reagan, simply mentioned the fact he was a movie actor and became president.
I posted the article about Trumps 'love affair with Palin' on another thread. I think it was the main Trump thread. Either find that, or look it up. He's your superhero, you should be interested to know who he wants to 'tap' (bwhahaha) for Cabinet positions.
Also, check out my video I posted on Trumps lack of understanding about what in the fuck is even going on in the Middle East, where he told the interviewer, "I'll know more than you will ever know about it after my first day in office".
Don't forget, this is the man that wants to go back into Iraq. The man who has gone bankrupt 4 times, destroyed many many families and small businesses, and in his entrepreneurial pursuits, I'll say again, has not managed to make a nickle more than he would have had he just invested his money.
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royque1980 said: In Latin America this is called a duacracy duocracy,
I wish people would grow up.
It's funny, my extreme left friends tell me I'm too conservative. My extreme right friends tell me I'm too liberal.
I tell them I figure that puts me right about where I want to be. In the middle. I have some positions that both sides could take comfort in.
Some of the funniest though are those who equate income to cock size.
I don't identify as a Democrat. I espouse left-wing philosophy, generally. There are a few things that I don't agree with 'liberals' on also.
However, I don't find the middle to be the 'high ground', though I see so many centrists proclaim that it is, with the same pretentiousness that a hard right conservative proclaims they hold the high ground. Regardless of which superiority complex afflicts you, it doesn't make you special. Its good to have values that you have developed of your own accord, instead of towing someone else's line. That doesn't denigrate the integrity or validity of other political and philosophical persuasions that many have arrived at via the same process.
As far as income equalling cock size, I fully agree with you, it is a strange measure. Donald Trump seems to start every speech with a rant about how rich he is. It is disgusting. If Elon Musk did it, I would find it a more legitimate talking point, but still repulsive.
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The Ecstatic said: Trump is gonna have more trouble with Latinos than with women. Plus with Rubio he gets a foothold in Florida, which Trump will absolutely need to win.
I think he wants to bang Palin... but he's saving a cabinet seat for her. If he picked her for his vp (I know he won't, but a man can dream), we could put all of this nonsense behind us quickly. What an embarrassment this man is.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: psilynut]
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Some people still do . By the time he left office 138 people in his admin had been indicted , investigated or convicted for something . Reagan wins criminal investigations .
1. Lyn Nofziger--White House Press Secretary - Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary.
2. Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger.
3. James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.
4. John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing...
5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.
6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department's Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush...
7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush...
It's a really long a really long Iist . Got bored reading it . "The American Petroleum Institute filed suit against the EPA [and] charged that the agency was suppressing a scientific study for fear it might be misinterpreted... The suppressed study reveals that 80 percent of air pollution comes not from chimneys and auto exhaust pipes, but from plants and trees." Presidential candidate Ronald Reagan, in 1979. Holy shit Did that really happen . ? The shit people could get away with saying back then is incredible . But maybe not , because as I'm writing this I'm watching the tea party patriots end the Iran deal thing and trump is talking about how awesome he is , Sara palin is literally waxing stupid , I don't even know what the fuck she is trying to say , but she can still blow me if wants , glen beck is saying when people say there going to exterminate the Jew you should listen , and Michelle Bachman is saying we should just start bombing Iran . And the duck dynasty guy was there talking about God or something not sure why he was there but apparently these are the people conservatives look up too .
That was ....wow . Didn't give Reagan give weapons to Iran at one point?
Wow, great post. I didn't realize the Reagan administration was so rife with corruption. Have you seen this Libertarian cult leader Stefan Molyneux on youtube. He's apparently telling people to sever their ties with family if they don't follow extreme Libertarian views, because they want you shot. They want you shot because if you refuse to pay taxes and also resist arrest, you will be shot. It's a real mindfuck.
That link is to a video about it.
The way I see it, the Republican party is strangling itself with stupid. I can't tell you the number of Republicans I've talked to who are registering as democrats because the party has come unhinged. There is no equivalency here.
Giving Donald Trump a fucking microphone and following him 24/7 is just fucking stupid. And no, patlal, when I hear him talk, I am forced to turn away in shame. Shame that my country is so fucking stupid, and flagrantly displaying that fact to the entire world. If he actually becomes president, I may just wash my hands of this place, out of utter disgust. Then again, there's no telling who that maniac might bomb. At least if I move to Mexico there will be more English speakers there than ever before! lmao
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Magenta]
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That's easy. Bernie Sanders is the only intelligent choice.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: And the tpp is still secret, no details at all. Do the moonbats complain? No, they still have trust and faith in the lying fool. But they believe nothing out of a conservative. That's why we're in the mess we are in.
Wow. You just run your mouth with garbage 24/7 don't you, Stoney. I can't even read half the mindless dribble you post anymore. All you do is try to get a rise out of people by saying shit you know flies in the face of fact and reason.
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Some criteria you have. By your measure Justin Bieber would be a top notch candidate!
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
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Stonehenge said: My solution as always is to do away with legalized bribery. Stop that in all its forms and no more votes will be bought. There will still be log rolling, vote trading but not outright selling of votes. Big money will no longer rule the day.
If that was your solution you'd be a Sanders guy. He is trying to make campaigns publicly funded.
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qman said: When Obama promised access to health care for everyone, who claimed it was impossible? Not many. Now that we know Obama's promises never materialized, he is a "pathetic liar"?
Are you saying you're upset that illegal immigrants didn't get coverage? If not, what are you upset didn't happen???
Yeah, I cry myself to sleep every night stressing on how illegal immigrants don't get enough freebies. 
Are you suggesting that Obama made good of his health care promises? Because we all can see he didn't.
You have an impressive level of disdain for immigrants.
Obama did make good on his promise. Just not as good as we would have liked. Everyone does have access to healthcare.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Wrong. I'm the one saying there should be political spending limits.
Which we argued over for a good fucking month or two lmao. I think mine and your positions on that subject ought to be abundantly clear.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
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qman said: Everyone had access to healthcare before as well, please tell us what's better about higher deductibles and higher co-pays with higher premiums?
Did you think he actually made good on his promises? Because even most liberals are highly disappointed in the end result.
I am highly disappointed, yes. However, healthcare is easily accessible for everyone in this country now, and before the ACA it wasn't. He also fixed many issues within the industry such as the 'pre-existing condition' copout that insurance companies used to use. So no, I'm not thrilled with it, I almost wish he hadn't even done it, because it would still be a key bipartisan issue. However, I think he did make good on his promise. He did the least he was obliged to do.
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If that was your solution you'd be a Sanders guy. He is trying to make campaigns publicly funded.
That's laughable, BS is the biggest vote buyer there is, what else would you call "vote for me and look at all the free stuff you get!"
That's a terrible misrepresentation of a great man. Bernie stands for a lot more than 'Free Stuff'. He was one of the leaders against the NSA, the war in Iraq, he stood up against the TPP and other trade deals, he's environmentally conscious (something you may not care about, but most of the country does), etc. Bernie cannot be summed up in such small minded, simple terms.
He has stood up against the federal reserve and the bailouts. He's been pro-choice and gay marriage for some 30 fuckin years (Back when Hillary was against gay marriage), which are attitudes most of the country shares. He wants to shut down privatized prisons, and put forth legislation to reduce the incidence of rape in prison. The ethical caliber of a society should be measured not by how they treat their most privileged, but how they treat their prisoners, afterall. Bernie was against torture in Guantanamo, and he is against illegal immigration.
You may not like all of these things, but many many people do. They are legitimate positions that span far beyond 'free shit'. We have a healthcare crisis in this country that can be mitigated by a single payer system, and this is a matter of fact, not speculation. We have an education debt crisis occurring in this country and he wants to do something about it. We have a prison overpopulation epidemic in this country and he wants to do something about it. Our infrastructure is falling apart, and he has a plan to do something about it.
What the fuck are your jackoff Wall Street whores planning to do about anything? 'Build a wall and keep those fuckin spics out'... What a bunch of small minded fucking garbage for the swath of uneducated intellectual midgets in this country.
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Obama did make good on his promise. Just not as good as we would have liked. Everyone does have access to healthcare
And everyone already did before Obamacare, difference was you got to pick your doctor and pick a plan that was right for you, Obamacare was a sellout to the insurance companies, promising so many new enrollees...
I get to pick my doctor. I've never had an issue with any of this, though I've heard people do. What is the issue, you don't get to pick your doctor if you're on free government healthcare? I honestly don't know, because I've never had any problems.
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Did you think he actually made good on his promises? Because even most liberals are highly disappointed in the end result.
I am highly disappointed, yes. However, healthcare is easily accessible for everyone in this country now, and before the ACA it wasn't. He also fixed many issues within the industry such as the 'pre-existing condition' copout that insurance companies used to use. So no, I'm not thrilled with it, I almost wish he hadn't even done it, because it would still be a key bipartisan issue. However, I think he did make good on his promise. He did the least he was obliged to do.
My feelings as well. Worst part is now it will take a miracle to bring single payer to the forefront of discussion anytime soon. For most of the country, healthcare is either fixed, or needs to go back to the old system.
We could have single payer if it weren't for Republican obstructionism. I watched an interview with a man who was an R. Senator when Obama took office (I forget which one), and he said that Republicans were actually instruct to fight Obama on everything, whether it was good or bad. They've obviously been doing this for years, which is why congress hasn't gotten shit done. Too bad Obama wasn't a white dude.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said: I'm all for single payer as long as that payer is not paying from my tax dollars. If it's some dude in Chile, that's fine by me.
I think we can all agree that having Chile pay our healthcare bill would be nice.
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Bigbadwooof said: We could have single payer if it weren't for Republican obstructionism.
Then it's fortunate they were around.
And why is that? It is a matter of fact that a single payer system is the most functional and affordable system a we could have.
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I watched an interview with a man who was an R. Senator when Obama took office (I forget which one), and he said that Republicans were actually instruct to fight Obama on everything, whether it was good or bad.
So in other words, business as usual for both parties. The less they do, the less we get fucked. Next best, if Congress is held by one party... a President from the other party.
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They've obviously been doing this for years, which is why congress hasn't gotten shit done.
A divided Congress is the best Congress.
The government actually has things that have to get done, like approving the budget for instance. In the midst of their bickering and grandstanding they shut down the fucking government.
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Wouldn't have mattered. Incompetence, partisanship and dishonesty would have put the squeeze on any President, much less the asshole we have now. If anything, he's probably gotten away with more than a white would have.
Obama was hardly partisan lmao!
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Really? Were you around for the Clinton years? This whole argument of "they don't like Obama cause he's (half) black" is so retarded, and here I thought you actually might be smarter than most libs...
Lol. No, I'm the dumbass who thinks asking obama for his birth certificate for 5+ years and calling him a muslim terrorist was because he is black.
Mind you, nobody is asking Ted Cruz for his fucking birth certificate.
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
Why should he release his college transcripts?
Because birthers turned an April Fool's joke into another Obama conspiracy.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp
Proof that sometimes people who stand for something (Libertarianism) will fall for anything.
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Why don't you post your college transcript? What are you scared of?
Are you personally attacking me? I didn't go to college, I make six figures within that bulllshit...
And why won't Obama release his, what could possibly be there? Maybe it's because he lied on his admissions? The fact you support this "liar in chief" says volumes....
Maybe he doesn't want to legitimize ludicrous accusations conjured by raving assholes. 'Black men can't go to college, let me see your transcripts!'...
Obama is clearly well educated.
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And why won't Obama release his, what could possibly be there? Maybe it's because he lied on his admissions? The fact you support this "liar in chief" says volumes....
Stop crying.
Why should he release his transcripts. It's not your business what grades he got.
No crying here, as the leader of the free world, yeah, I'd think it's kinda important... Me? I'm just a dumb oilfield worker, making more sense than your president ever will...
Did you ever stop to think that maybe, being an oil field worker, you don't know everything? You take some hardline positions on a lot of things. An education would certainly soften some of those stances.
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Really? Back to Bush? My god you libs need a new fall guy...
This isn't blaming Bush, or targetting Bush... insert any other president's name there, and the point remains thd same. Also, just because you're tired of hearing legitimate arguments about Bush, doesn't illegitimize them.
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The feds need to stay out of a great many things, healthcare mandates/subsidies among them.
No they don't.
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The government actually has things that have to get done, like approving the budget for instance. In the midst of their bickering and grandstanding they shut down the fucking government.
Congress has shown repeatedly they have no self control. I'd have fewer issues with them if they stuck to the basics.
I'm not sure what you're referring to by 'self-control'. Like attaching aggressive partison legislation to a budget bill and then blaming the president for shutting the government down? Or inviting Netanyahu for a visit to congress, without consulting with the president? That's not all of government. That is beligerant Republicans. There is no equivolency here. We can elect more mature politicians.
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Really! Lmao
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