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starfire_xes said: Now, let me see; The middle east was relatively stable in 2009, in the beginning.

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royque1980 said: Let us see the BBC timeline: . . .
Hardly think before or after 2009 you will see any kind of stability.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
#22230777 - 09/13/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: The middle east was relatively stable compared to today. Do any of you claim obumble has made things better? He has wasted trillions of dollars and all we have to show for it is lots of blown up stuff, many dead people and lots of hate toward usa.
Do you think it was as stable as when Saddam was in charge of Iraq?
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Stonehenge said: Where is the evidence trump will put palin in the cabinet? When rational people make statements, the left is quick to demand proof but they say wild things with nothing to back it up.
You're the one that fails to back up his statements. Pick any news source and I'll find it for you. Here's one of many.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
#22231029 - 09/13/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: There are thousands of jobs in govt, obumble gave them to his supporters without a murmur from you, but if trump does the same you will squeak.
I'm not complaining about Trump putting qualified supporters into positions. I'm complaining about him putting Sarah Palin, one of the dumbest people in politics, into any position.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
#22260546 - 09/19/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Libs go entirely on emotion and personality. Every one of their criticisms of trump boil down to those things and the fact they have been trained to hate gop and conservatives even if they push the same ideas as libs.
You love the straw man argument, don't you? Liberals prefer concrete plans, which Trump is weak on.
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Stonehenge said: Every conversation with a hard core l leftist, comes down to "I think he is no good, he is rude, blah blah"
I haven't mentioned Trump's personality even once, so that's a false statement.
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Stonehenge said: And the tpp is still secret, no details at all. Do the moonbats complain? No, they still have trust and faith in the lying fool. But they believe nothing out of a conservative. That's why we're in the mess we are in.
Wow. You just run your mouth with garbage 24/7 don't you, Stoney. I can't even read half the mindless dribble you post anymore. All you do is try to get a rise out of people by saying shit you know flies in the face of fact and reason.
I know. Only 13 democratic senators voted in favor of fast tracking the TPP, compared with 47 republican senators. TPP is a big corporate give-away, and republicans have demonstrated they are more in the pocket of the corporation than democrats.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
#22261071 - 09/19/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: When Obama promised access to health care for everyone, who claimed it was impossible? Not many. Now that we know Obama's promises never materialized, he is a "pathetic liar"?
Are you saying you're upset that illegal immigrants didn't get coverage? If not, what are you upset didn't happen???
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
#22261143 - 09/19/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: You have been taken in by the pro wrestling style theatrics of good guys vs bad guys. They pretend to hate each other but always come together when the big money people say "pass it"
Wrong. I'm the one saying there should be political spending limits.
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Stonehenge said: My solution as always is to do away with legalized bribery. Stop that in all its forms and no more votes will be bought.
Great, we're in agreement again.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
#22261150 - 09/19/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Are you suggesting that Obama made good of his health care promises? Because we all can see he didn't.
I'm asking what promise you're upset about?
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Stonehenge said: My solution as always is to do away with legalized bribery. Stop that in all its forms and no more votes will be bought. There will still be log rolling, vote trading but not outright selling of votes. Big money will no longer rule the day.
If that was your solution you'd be a Sanders guy. He is trying to make campaigns publicly funded.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
#22261191 - 09/19/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Everyone had access to healthcare before as well, please tell us what's better about higher deductibles and higher co-pays with higher premiums?
Did you think he actually made good on his promises? Because even most liberals are highly disappointed in the end result.
You can still pick your deductible. A higher deductible at a more affordable rate is still better than no insurance.
And the rate increases have slowed since Obamacare passed.
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Exactly. A lot more good came out of it than bad, unfortunately, it's more about what the insurance industry wanted than what the people wanted (single payer).
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Bigbadwooof said: If that was your solution you'd be a Sanders guy. He is trying to make campaigns publicly funded.
That's laughable, BS is the biggest vote buyer there is, what else would you call "vote for me and look at all the free stuff you get!"
Please tell us about this "free stuff" you seem to be warning us against? 
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Bigbadwooof said: Everyone does have access to healthcare
And everyone already did before Obamacare, difference was you got to pick your doctor and pick a plan that was right for you, Obamacare was a sellout to the insurance companies, promising so many new enrollees...
I get to pick my doctor. I've never had an issue with any of this, though I've heard people do. What is the issue, you don't get to pick your doctor if you're on free government healthcare? I honestly don't know, because I've never had any problems.
I can still pick my doctor. The difference is you can't pick a shitty plan anymore, and if you can't afford insurance, you'll get help paying for it.
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
#22262847 - 09/19/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: A higher deductible still makes health care un-affordable for most people, most people can NOT afford the first $5000 for health care services, so for the most part they are paying premiums for something they can't use, is there any wonder why the health insurance companies are making super duper profits.
When people have an emergency, they see a doctor. A large deductible is FAR more affordable than paying the entire emergency room cost.
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Bigbadwooof said: Dems don't do that kind of belligerent shit. If you disagree, make your case.

Good one (or more). Perhaps comedy is for you after all.
You can't make your case?
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
#22427752 - 10/24/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: I believe human behavior is responsible for climate change, but I don't think drastic measures should be mandated to change it.
An honest point for intelligent discussion. That's how debates should go. Not "scientists are all trying to promote their 'agenda' rather than science" (whatever their secret agenda is).
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Free market says cigarettes are good!
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Example: "At least 70% of all Americans support restrictions on access to abortions." Well, maybe 70% of Americans are wrong!
Abortion is not a right or wrong issue. It's a moral issue that must be decided by society as a whole.
I was just typing the same thing and noticed your response before I submitted it.
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qman said: Sanders wants illegals to become US citizens
And give the ones who don't Obamacare... Taxpayer subsidies for illegals, hooray BS!
Incorrect, as usual. Bernie thinks we should allow undocumented immigrants to purchase Obamacare using their own money, without ANY federal subsidies. The more people that pay in, the less it costs everyone, because we'd no longer have to pay extra to cover uninsured people with life threatening emergencies.
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starfire_xes said: good point. I'm sure the illegal aliens are going to run right out and buy health insurance with the tiny wages they from minimum wage jobs.
No, what will happen is the will try to 'pay with their own money,' and then--"hey--they're poor! Let's give them subsidies.
Your logical fallacy is...
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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Enlil]
#22481451 - 11/05/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good to have you back Enlil. You're killing 'em.
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