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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
    #22254626 - 09/18/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Don't get anything with trich added anywhere near your mushrooms. You want reptile bedding bricks.Sterilization of bulk substrate will not work you want pasteurization. You want to mix the spawn and bulk substrate together, not layers. You can case with the coir/verm or jiffy mix or just skip it.Here is some of the best info all in one place http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163#17897163


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22254763 - 09/18/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the labell says... coconut with natural Trichoderma....dunnnoooooo
so i am sorry on my post bfore where i said with added...


btw. took 3g of my B+...right now i am tripping.... wowo...they work D


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
    #22254803 - 09/18/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It could work with proper pasteurization but probably not with the bucket tek, personally I would be too paranoid to use it. Here's what RR said about coir w/ Trichoderma
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RogerRabbit said:
Theoretically, proper pasteurization should take care of the mold, but if you can find another source, such as the coir sold in pet shops for reptiles, I'd suggest getting that instead of what the hydro shops sell.
RR




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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22291717 - 09/26/15 03:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

here a recently update....

I had a bunch of abort with blakc head...misting too often i guess and the substrate didn´t maintain enough Water i guess...so the 3rd flush did not show up...no growing.

So i picked everything off.
Watered(dunked) the Trays for 6 hours and now i got new pins and new shrooms.
1st Pic the B+ and 2nd Pic the Mexicans.


today i harvested a Monster


I placed 4 more trays into a monotube cause i didn´t had the foil for the bottom of the tube and didnt had enough spawn for that.
I got several new jars and acurtally waiting for more spawn to get colonized to test a fully monotube.


I figuered something out....my Pressure cooker only gets 1,5 psi...but it works actually...i will see to get another one...Actually the grain is not that sterile as it should be i guess and the Casing layer material is not aswell...i didn´t trustet in pasteurisation yet..but next time i am going for the bulk in the tube i will try to pasteurize the Casing material.

Happy shrooming :laugh:

And btw. yes i let the coco with natural trichoderma off...and threw it away...
So my actually casing layer is peatmoss/Verm again.
This time with the new trays i mixed the Peatmoss and Verm mix with my spawn together. The colonizingprogress in the trays only took 3 days including an extra layr on top to colonize...In my opinion the mixing of Spawn and substrate improved colonizing speed compared to my 1st 4 trays.
I am so excited. :laugh:

The B+ Trip was so intense....i could not open my eyes...so strong in my head...the objectives and colors i saw i can´t describe. When i opened my eyes...not that strong visuals like the mexicans do. But  @ all a very intense xperience the B+. (3g dry B+)


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
    #22291796 - 09/26/15 04:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have not found heavy misting to cause aborts with this species, even if they get soaked.

High CO2 and/or genetic predisposition is the usual cause IME.

While sterilizing the casing layer can work, pasteurizing is prefered.  There's nothing risky about it.  You can use untreated peat as a casing if you like.  The general goal is hardest to contaminate, which people tend to feel is with the mold spores dead, but the beneficial microbes that prevent opportunists from taking over intact.

Since your PC only goes to 1.5 psi, your spawn was most likely bacterial but colonized over.  The bacteria probably lead to quick contamination and susceptibility to trich.

Re: OEV's.  I find they vary a lot depending on how interested I am in looking at OEV's.  Entire experiences have gone by where I barely paid attention to them at all, or just wasn't into it.  The mind filters them out easily unless you focus on them, so that aspect may be psychological.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22340072 - 10/06/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So my 1st Trays are going to exhaust i guess. Not many new shrooms but still something is going on ...

The B+ showing me some rly big and huge shrooms compared to the 1st flushes. (1st Grow)


The last pic is from the old grow....2-3 lonely shrooms but big as hell.


2nd GROW  with Trays in a Monotube-Design
So i startet the 2nd attempt with Trays in a different container more Monotube style...I Mixxed the Spawn with Casing layer and filled the trays completely up. After a little more colonizing Time then in my 1st grow it pinned so incredible better than the 1st attempt. My 1st Mexican Flush is already harvested. And the B+ will be harvested today.
Here a Pic from my 2nd Grow 1st Flush Harvest (2 Trays - arround 200g wet)



One shroom has something on his head... can´t say what that is..its totally attached to it, can´t pull it easily off...never saw this before...

Do somebody know what that can be? It looks like Cancer :laugh:


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
    #22437872 - 10/26/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wow! Rye on your first try and it worked! How inspiring :tongue2:


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Catwinds]
    #22490519 - 11/07/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hey there....a few Trays with Casing later....i am pretty excited about my shroomery.

I am still following all those guys starting to grow. And i am pretty much enjoying all that good stuff in these Forums.

Here a little Update.
My G2G- works well. I safed a Sporeprint from my own Mexicans and made a Syringe from 1/4 of it. But not testet yet to inoculate.
I Harvestet a lot of Pretty good Shrooms and enjoyed it with Friends.
I testet how many Flushes i can get from my Casings. Now i ended up in only take 2-3 Flushes from it and increase my Cycle rate of new Casings rather then wasting my time for 2-3 lonely Shrooms. And sometimes i see Color changes after a few Flushes....so the Casings pretty much get Contams and Bacteria after 4+ Flushes...( Yes i throw those Shrooms away - once i testet them myself - think they were still ok but Safety 1st. I would never offer that to one of my friends.
I bought few more Containers - 3 Containers with 4 Casings Each and my 1st Bullk Monotube is running aswell (Tomorrow i will give you piccutres of that)


Anyways. Here me up to date Question to all you experienced guys.

I am actually increased a little my Temperatures for my incubation Zone. Meanwhile Incubation runs a little Better. Also i now use Rye Grain and Vermiculate(Earlier only the Grain) for the Mycelium growth. And i am Still doing G2G.

Now about 10 Days ago i transfered B+, And those Jars are done today. I already spawned them into my casings.
Here Some Pics.
The Mycelium ist much stronger then before...and more cotton like.
(I read about Degeneration can be a point- but i also thought this will be a neverending cycle if i keep the mycelium alive. On the Other hand i am a little scared to have a bigger bacterial Infection cause tdoing G2G.)

The Mycelium felt pretty chunky- Jewy- like Chewinggum- when i proke it up to mix it with my spawn-mix.






One Jar had a little Mycelium Piss - i guess .... so far i am scared... :laugh:

The Thing is...since i use the Verm the Jars are sometimes here and there have a extra drop of Water in it. Not Really a "Wet spot" as it seems to me.
On the other Hand...my Jars normally take a lot longer to fully colonize. But that can be a result of a little improved and more optimal Colonization Temperatures.

So far a little Update. :laugh:

Regards from Good old Germany.


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
    #22494341 - 11/08/15 05:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

As i said Yesterday i will give you a littl more pictures.
( I love Threads with a ton of nice pictures btw :laugh:)




Started with one Container and 4 Trays in it...i am addicted of Growing shrooms... :laugh:


SO as i told yesterday i have now my 1st Full Monotube going on.




I am pretty excited. Had mixed my Spawn and Verm/PeatMoss  together and topped it with a little Casing layer. It took 3 Days to colonize like you see that. Today i opened the Holes and removed the duck Tape to put the Polyfill in. I already see the 1st lonely shroom.

Lets Rockn Roll.


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
    #22494430 - 11/08/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You see a pin in there already?


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22494441 - 11/08/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Usually people use coir as a bulk substrate  instead of peat, and those jars look bacterial but I wish you luck, hope you get some results.


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22494792 - 11/08/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Usually people use coir as a bulk substrate  instead of peat, and those jars look bacterial but I wish you luck, hope you get some results.



Yeah. Probably you are right. I used Them anyway and Filled Them in trays and cased them. I am going to Throw them away of nothing happens. Is bacteria going to Infekt over air aswell? So maybe a reason to Throw them immediatly away or seperate them Directly?

I should Start Working with some agar i guess...that i can stop this grain2grain.

As far as i said i am using the g2g Sinne i started. Chance to getan Infektion by bacteria is increäsing every transfer.

Thx for your response.
And yes...coir...i will also try to Order coir. :evil:


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
    #22494819 - 11/08/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Grain to grain works great if the master jar is clean. You may get some success and I wish you luck, if anything turns green, take it outside immediately so you do not fill your work area with nasty spores. Check pet stores for bricks of coir, used for reptile bedding. Good luck and keep us posted.:super:


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22541687 - 11/18/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

OK here my 1st Monotub result...
Pics say more than 1000 words.

Awesome 1st Flush. Much more than 4 Trays in the same Container. The Harvest was too big...not all Shromms got their place on the windowsill.




One day before i harvested i also got a picture.


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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
    #22541750 - 11/18/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Congratulations! Looks good man!:rockon:


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