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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: NDStepp84]
#22216263 - 09/10/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trichoderma, and any other green mold for that matter dies at 130F for 30 minutes. That's why pasteurization of 140-150 for 1 hour is more than sufficient. Unless you pasteurized improperly (highly doubt it) you just had contaminated substrates when you cased it. Coincidentally they were clean when you sterilized your casings. That's all that it is. Trich doesn't survive a pasteurization, so if you have problems with it, it's ALWAYS from a different source.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: NDStepp84]
#22217288 - 09/10/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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NDStepp84 said: Looking good!
Thx Bro  Appreciate with your assistance 
1st Veil breaks now on a single Mexican. Whats your Opinion about harvesting today, or sleep for a few hours and harvest tomorrow the complete stuff.
I am afraid of spores falling down destroying or just let me get a smaller 2nd flush.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22217336 - 09/10/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If they are a bunch all at different stages of growth, harvest individually as they are ready, you're right you don't want spores everywhere.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: NDStepp84]
#22217516 - 09/10/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22217552 - 09/10/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm an advocate of the monotub design. What do people with holey sgfc do in the event of fungus gnats finding their way inside?
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: 23x]
#22217559 - 09/10/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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23x said: I'm an advocate of the monotub design. What do people with holey sgfc do in the event of fungus gnats finding their way inside?
I've hung sticky fly tape with moderate success.
I've also had gnats get in a monotub.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Munchauzen]
#22230126 - 09/13/15 06:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So here a Update. As i told...i harvester the shrooms. Rehydrated fopr about 10-20 Minutes by dunking the casings. And sprayed them every day once a bit. And rehydratet the Perlite Layer in the Fruiting Chamber.
Today i saw on shroom with black hat...maybe already a abort that i immediatly picked. The rest is going on again and i can see another few pins again.  On Harvest i nearly picked everything i could.
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So after all i am pretty sure there will be a 2nd harvest i can take ;D
WOhohohoh i love it!
3 Days after the last Harvest the next Flush is going to appear...pretty good i guess  Oh Yeha... Rumble in the Jungle!
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Edited by Garuk (09/13/15 06:55 AM)
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22230136 - 09/13/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Congrats! I gotta ask though what tek is this? I always thought the trays should go into a SGFC. It looks like you have a monotub style chamber going.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: PoIIo]
#22230144 - 09/13/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Treys can go in a mono, as long as you have it full.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Munchauzen]
#22230233 - 09/13/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would say its a mix between Monotub and SGFC Cause i have polyesterwool in the holes and several holes in the Container not exactly the SGFC design. And yes i have it in trays cause i was scared of contams and tried it in trays rather than filling the whole container with substrate and colonized grey. Obviously it works maybe next time i will go for a Monotub and fill it up but i actually have 2 strains so yeah i will run a few weeks more the trays... ;D
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22230254 - 09/13/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have two trays that I just cased with Franks jiffy tek. I dont feel like drilling a million holes in this new tub. Might try this.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: PoIIo]
#22241559 - 09/15/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here a recntly Update on my 2nd Flush. So Far i need more Holes and need a little more FAE but i am getting closer... Most of the Pins are thicker and the Heads are not opening early and the Veil´s are goiing to appear. Just one or two Fruit bodys are thin. You will recognize on the Mexican Pics.
The B+ are thick. But there are not that many pins showing up.
Probably i should harvest in intervalls and i just get a smaller size cause i piucked that many pins on 1st Harvest.
Btw. i got 10,5 g B+ dry in total and about 13,7 g Mex in total.
B+ Shrooms



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Then i got a closer look on the mexicans...this hairy on Bottom i can´t say if its mycellium or as i read in some other threads that can be bacterria. Got damn it...hopefully not. 
 I will keep an Eye on this.
Anyway i am suprised i got a few Shrooms out of it.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22244233 - 09/16/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had to go to work...But today in the morning the mexicana are that big i can See the veil. And the b+ are such grow Ing big...incredible...
Amy comments on that fuzzy on the bottom from my last pic postet? In my option i need more FAE and opened the lit a lotte Bit to get a less humidity and even more fae
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Edited by Garuk (09/16/15 02:06 AM)
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22244926 - 09/16/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Finally i am back from home....
Mexicans showed me some veils are already broken. So i went over to Harvest the 2nd Flush. My 2nd Harvest i am so excited! Here some Pictures of the harvsted Shrooms.

My wife already enjoying cleaning the shrooms ;D She is not eating it but cleening and already felt in love another way 
I Misted the Casing and the left over pins very well instead of dunking it again. I took out 3 Aborts with black head and 2 Aborts from the other tray. There are 2 more very dark headed pins. Not sure if only dark head or aborts. I will keep an Eye on that.
 
The B+ are already doublesized than the 1st flush...incedible they will need another one or two days before i pick them. But there are not that many pins showing up as on the mexicans...damn. Anyways its quite impressive for me.
 
I took out the polyfill on the top holes of my box to increase more the FAE and put aswell the lid a little aside.(For more FAE aswell)

So in my opinion the FAE is the most important thing i already learned from you guys. In future Grows and in future Containers that will be the most important things for me.
The other Thing is. I did Grain to Grain on my jars. The Mycelium was quite storng and i shaked them...now its still white but doesn´t seem so sticky as before...its 5-6 Days ago i shaked them pretty well. I will put tomorrow another picture of that online.
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Edited by Garuk (09/16/15 09:07 AM)
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22248929 - 09/16/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Today the b+ will be harvested. Extra FAE Made them big as trees compared to yesterday. After work i will give you a pic of that.
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Edited by Garuk (09/16/15 11:56 PM)
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22248954 - 09/17/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22248971 - 09/17/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah those "fuzzy feet" are mycelium... It usually means you need more FAE, but it can be genetics... I love the B+ variety, that's what I'm working with right now... I would highly recommend making a true SGFC or better yet make a monotub... They are easy to maintain once you get them dialed in.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Darkhome]
#22249469 - 09/17/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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These b+ will be rdy in a few hours when i am back from work.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22249822 - 09/17/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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B+ Harvest time-2nd harvest I misted the trays pretty much.
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Re: 1st Grow - Some questions and some Statements :D [Re: Garuk]
#22254530 - 09/18/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So far my 3rd Flush runs.... i am searching the forums for Bulk and monotubes now 4 hours ago.
There are some Major Questions i am asking myself atm. I found some CocoStar added with Trichoderma from my last Cannabis grows. I a thinking about using it after a Sterilization so far. I have as Casing Layer PeatMoss Soil low in Nutrientsatm in my actual grow. It worked in my actual grow as a Top Layer.
I put 1st a layer of the Soil in and then a layer of my rye grain fully conlonized and then a final layer of the soil. I didn´t mix it.
For Bulk i read theres no need to mix the Substrate and the Bulk Sub you can layer it in defferent multiple Layers with 4 Inch (10 Centimeters) in total. (Is the mutiple Layer thing enhancing the Moisture for the network thats why there is no need to mix it evenly?) OK so far so good.
coco is low in Nutrient my Soil is low in nutrient. What to choose for the Bulk Substrate? Is it also Possible to stick with the Soil as Bulk substrate? Maybe i will benefit to Mix the Soil and Coco with the Spawn and can benefit? Or should i use the sterilized Coco with Verm as Substrat and as layer ? Why then not use the Coco as a top layer or should it be better then to use the Soil as Last top Layer? If the Soil gives a better Microclimate cause it holds better the moisture it will give more moisture to the shrooms. While Coco doenst hold that good the moisture it evaporates better so far it better help introducing the Pinning. If this is the right understanding it should be better to have a Soil/Verm as Bulk Substrate and a Coco/Verm as Casing layer. Or in General it can benefit to have a Soil/Coco/Verm Mix to have 3 kind of qualitys in relation Evaporation/Moisture Capacity.
Did you get me? (Sorry if my english is not that good. Hopefully you get my opinion what i am thinking/searching for)
I am so weird atm.... Probably its time for the 1st Shroom trip i grow on my own...to find the answer what to do 
I belive my trays work atm but as it works...i will try to improve the Yield and the Quality and the best way is to leave the trays where they are and stick to a Monotube.
Thx for your advise. Edit;/ Fuck i created a Textwall
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Edited by Garuk (09/18/15 05:01 AM)
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