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Monster_Mycelium
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1st Grow: Possible Contaminations??
#22208434 - 09/08/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello all,
So I started my first grow about 5 weeks ago. Things are seeming a bit slow. I chose Puerto Rican for a first time grow -wasn't sure at the time if they were picky or not with either colonizing or fruiting.
I've experienced a few mishaps already and now I'm getting some potentially strange stuff on at least one of my jars (PF Tek method). Not sure if these are contaminated and if so, what they are contaminated with. Any help on this would greatly appreciated.
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Psilosoulful

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It looks to be bacterial. It might slow down colonization times a bit but the mycelium should still be able to fully colonize the jar.
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22242472 - 09/15/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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1 WEEK LATER: All jars now seem to contain that yellowish discoloration, there also appears to be some bluing, although I'm not sure if that is just bruising from the mycelium trying to fight back.
JAR 1:

JAR 2:

JAR 3:
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Psilosoulful

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Looks like there's metabolites in all three jars. Let them finish colonizing that last bit of brf mix, then birth them 
Edit: forgot to mention to let them consolidate first for a week before birthing, they'll pin up better.
Edited by Psilosoulful (09/15/15 05:53 PM)
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22269468 - 09/21/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Another week has passed and they are STILL not fully consolidated...on top of this they are all getting little cotton ball masses on the sides of the jars. Very concerned at this point.
JAR 1:


JAR 2:


JAR 3:


Jar 3 is the most concerning at the moment because the cotton appears to have an almost snot green color to it. I really don't know what to do.
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What is your incubation temp? It is taking quite a while...
This to be expected if your temps are low, if not you may have a contamination stalling them out....
I would still let them continue to colonize. You've waited this long so I don't see why it could hurt. The coloration isn't as bothersome to me as the shear amount of time it's taking to colonize.
Once colonized and "consolidated" birthing them will tell you more than anything. Jar 3 doesn't look optimal, but if it's bacterial it may subside when exposed to air.
Only time will tell 
Good luck!
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: confuzzed]
#22273810 - 09/22/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They're ready for a dunk and roll. I'd say they were ready awhile ago. The green/blue is bruising from it being dry. The yellowing is metabolites and/or drying/dying myc.
The spots that look weak/uncolonized most likely have some bacteria
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: Mad Season]
#22285745 - 09/24/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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For those spots is it possible to apply some rubbing alcohol on a q-tip to kill it? Or take a small blade and scrape the bits off before the dunk and roll?
Also, how can you tell you tell when they are ready to be dunked? There were a few patches of substrate that hadn't turned white yet (still are) I thought it was best to wait for it all to turn white then wait an additional week for consolidation
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They're not going to turn white is what I'm saying. That's what bacteria (wet spot) does. You can rinse and rub them off before the dunk too.
It's hard at first, but you'll get used to mycelium and shit. Generally if it just doesn't take over a tiny spot (stalls) in a few days, there's something there, like it's too wet or bacterial.
Edited by Mad Season (09/24/15 07:44 PM)
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Monster_Mycelium
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Awesome, good to hear. Thanks for your help
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Ok, they have been birthed, dunk'n'rolled and set up in the 20x14x12" tub with 3" of perlite. It's been since last friday and they aren't pinning just looking like they are getting fuzzy. I'm worried they are getting moldy. I can post up some pics this week but I'm getting a little concerned by how long all of this is taking
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Just give it time. Be patient. They'll so their thing no matter what. As long as they're not contaminated. Definitely post some pics man
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: Mad Season]
#22314367 - 09/30/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad Season
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Ok i noticed you said a tub with perlite. Is it a proper sgfc? it looks like they're dying of fae, as well as they're dry, and need a light direct misting. Make them glisten. No pooling water
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: Mad Season]
#22314520 - 09/30/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used the method shown (albeit rather poorly imo) in the Let's Grow Mushrooms series on youtube. Used a 1/8" bit and drilled holes on all 4 sides, the bottom and lid.
Also, what about the mold on the sides? Any way to salvage these?
Edited by Monster_Mycelium (09/30/15 02:47 PM)
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Mad Season
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How does it smell? Still mushroomy? And yeah you need 1/4" holes on all 6 sides. Definitely needs more fae
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: Mad Season]
#22314549 - 09/30/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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After spraying them it smells mushroomy, but the scent in the tank sometimes doesn't smell super great.
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Mad Season
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Low fae can cause an almost alcohol bacterial smell. You need more fae man. It'll solve your problems.
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: Mad Season]
#22337804 - 10/05/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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These were dunk'n'roll'd and put into the tub on Friday, this picture was taken yesterday (10/4):



I'm just unsure how long it should take to pin at this stage or if there is anything indicated here killing them or in the very least, stunting their growth
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2 weeks and still nothing. I increased the size of the holes, mist them and still nothing. Feeling pretty shitty about this, put so much time into this and still nothing, they don't look super great now either. I have no idea what to do or if they can even be salvaged.
Edited by Monster_Mycelium (10/13/15 12:47 AM)
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Quote:
Monster_Mycelium said: 2 weeks and still nothing. I increased the size of the holes, mist them and still nothing. Feeling pretty shitty about this, put so much time into this and still nothing, they don't look super great now either. I have no idea what to do or if they can even be salvaged.
Do you have pictures of them now?
Also when picking them up do they feel light?? Or heavy?? I'm wondering if you've been misting them enough....
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: confuzzed]
#22375796 - 10/13/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mine have taken this long before. I'm by no means experienced in this but I've had 2 completely successful grows and I just have a couple questions for you that might help. Do you fan and mist these things? I know you drilled the holes for better FAE but you need to fan out the excess C02 at least 4 times a day. also make sure you're misting from above with a spray bottle before every time you fan. The evaporation of the mist from the fanning is a pinning trigger. Do you have a timed light on these guys? I bought s cheap light timer at like walgreens or something and just do 12 hrs on 12 hrs off, works great. In my unprofessional opinion they don't look contaminated they just look like they are suffocating and drying out, you probably just need to fix your procedures man. Good luck.
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Re: 1st Grow: Possible Contaminations?? [Re: Mortgages]
#22404058 - 10/19/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did a second dunk because they looked very dry, put them in the fridge, took them out and this is how they look last night. Pretty grodey. Not sure what can be done or if they are ok
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Those cakes look fucked. Start over.
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Sad, but true. Those cakes will trich over before they start pinning.
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