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SpiritTruth
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Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip
#22207182 - 09/08/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A few months ago I ate about 50 liberty caps (Psilocybe Semilanceata) which I picked myself... they grow on a farm near me. I don't know if 50 is a large dose or whatever, but I ate them among people who didn't know about it. They don't do these types of things so I was quite nervous. I started to panic and had to get away from them. I felt so uncomfortable and started to see everything very distorted. I was very fearful and couldn't enjoy the trip at all. I wasn't really hallucinating, but I was seeing everything in a fuzzy weird way and I had this huge anxiety within myself.
The whole night, I was in a search for comfortability, because I felt uncomfortable. I couldn't focus on anything and I thought I had to go to the hospital. This was the first time I ate that many shrooms, I usually eat about 20-30, and it was the first time I had a bad trip.
Do you think this was because of the bad setting I was in at first? And how I panicked because of that and it all went downhill from there? Because I do want to try 50+ shrooms in order to get the full effect of what it has to offer. So will I have a good trip if I actually am comfortable from the beginning and feel safe?
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Re: Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip [Re: SpiritTruth]
#22207301 - 09/08/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That feeling of uncomfortableness I always feel comes from a deep unconscious inability to give up control. If you find a way to get yourself to completely give yourself up to the universe that can change it quickly. I find for me being inside in bed is the only place I can handle high doseages and completely give in to whatever I'm feeling, as much as I love being in nature too often I start being paranoid no matter how safe of an environment I'm in.
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Re: Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip [Re: stanski]
#22207329 - 09/08/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Take them and just let go... you'll figure out the fear was only self-created you've inflicted on yourself by over thinking your next experience.
I will guarantee this, It won't be like your last one. Before you eat them, thank the mushrooms, ask them what you want out of them and most importantly RESPECT them.
GIVE UP AND LET GO TO THE HIGHER INTELLIGENCE!!
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Re: Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip [Re: stanski]
#22207378 - 09/08/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trying to hide a trip or being around people who may look down on you for taking "drugs" is not the recipe for a relaxed time. A lot of people go through a long rituals, getting everything perfect beforehand so they know that once the trip starts there is nothing to worry about.
It doesn't sound like you had any major universe dissolving/ego crushing issues so I wouldn't worry about trying again. Just make sure you are in a comfortable head space, that you are somewhere safe and maybe even try to get a sitter or someone else to trip with. I prefer to trip alone as I feel I get more out of it and I can go deeper with no distractions, but moderate doses with friends can be great fun and a real bonding experience.
If things feel uncomfortable, take few deep breaths, remember nothing bad can happen (NO reason to go to hospital unless you have some kind of accident/injury), and most of all just accept what is happening and go with it, fighting a trip is what causes anxiety, as you have taken a chemical which makes "normal" thought processes and responses very difficult. Let go and enjoy the ride, it will be over within a couple of hours no matter what happens.
I would maybe try weighing your dose rather than going by the number of mushrooms too, this will give you a more accurate idea of how many you are taking. I started out just uses liberty caps around 20 years ago and used to just eat 50-60, I have no clue what that is in grams and would never do that now.
Wait until you feel mentally ready, make some preparations and try again.
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Re: Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip [Re: egodeathflux]
#22207447 - 09/08/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't wait to begin my frequent shroom experiences soon. Only have done them once. Haven't experienced many trips at all really. Did the whole blow phase though. When I got very uncomfortable or feeling very negative I would just change environments. That usually always helped. As what the other guys said would definitely take their advice and weight it next time. Take it nice and slow. Did that in the past with my trips and always felt great. Didn't ever do more than half an eighth though.
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Re: Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip [Re: SpiritTruth]
#22207504 - 09/08/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds to me like that was potentially caused 100% by the setting you were in. Personally I hate being around anybody while tripping, even if they're tripsters, but especially if they aren't.
If you're inexperienced in general, I would recommend easing yourself in with some micro dosing.
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Re: Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22207524 - 09/08/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't mushrooms around sober people or people that aren't super close to me. It makes me super uncomfortable I think you'd be fine if you tried a lower dose by yourself OP
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Re: Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22207611 - 09/08/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Set and setting are almost as important as the mushrooms themselves. That whole thing reads like what I would do if I wanted to freak out. Sometimes it's actually fun to put yourself in challenging situations while inebriated. Try purchasing a gun while high!
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Re: Afraid to try a high dose of shrooms (liberty caps) after bad trip [Re: stanski]
#22227150 - 09/12/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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stanski said: That feeling of uncomfortableness I always feel comes from a deep unconscious inability to give up control. If you find a way to get yourself to completely give yourself up to the universe that can change it quickly. I find for me being inside in bed is the only place I can handle high doseages and completely give in to whatever I'm feeling, as much as I love being in nature too often I start being paranoid no matter how safe of an environment I'm in.
Does camping count as a bed?, as in once I got used to camping, would it be OK to camp and have a good experience,etc?
thanks.
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