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TheShroomanizer
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Lighting Frequencies
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I have 3 cakes currently in the SGFC. I have been doing a 12/12 regiment of TOTAL dark + Regular sunlight (Indirect). I just recently did a 2 day period of SOLID darkness and noticed pin sets coming. Is this commmon knowledge that placing them in a darkroom will start the fruiting sequence, then exposing them natural light enhances fruit body growth?
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TheShroomanizer said: I have 3 cakes currently in the SGFC. I have been doing a 12/12 regiment of TOTAL dark + Regular sunlight (Indirect). I just recently did a 2 day period of SOLID darkness and noticed pin sets coming. Is this commmon knowledge that placing them in a darkroom will start the fruiting sequence, then exposing them natural light enhances fruit body growth?
no. 12/12 is best. ambient light or 6500k bulb/appropriate replacement. light is beneficial from colonization through fruiting during the entire life cycle of the mycelium. the only reason you had pin development was time. just be more patient and provide optimum conditions.
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k cool thanks/
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My tubs are on shelves and the shelf above each one blocks light from above. I have 2 34" Daylight (6500K) tube bulbs about 2 feet away, that mostly enters the tubs thru 1 side (the front), on a 12/12 timer. Notice the direction of growth...
  
Sometimes I'll rotate the tubs mid-fruiting. Notice the curvature of the stems...
  
I haven't really done any tests but, there's no question that 6500k light has an effect.
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not to derail the thread, but why are all the holes taped over on your monos while fruiting?
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It's not really a monotub. More just a plain old tub with FAE holes covered with micropore tape.

More examples of light effecting growth. From baby to maturity...
     
This last one is Ecuador on it's 3rd flush. Some of them grew horizontally toward the light.
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CubensisFrenzy said: FAE holes covered with micropore tape.
the minute you cover them they are not fae holes
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207672 - 09/08/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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CubensisFrenzy said: FAE holes covered with micropore tape.
the minute you cover them they are not fae holes
Damn you just flocked him right there
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
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CubensisFrenzy said: FAE holes covered with micropore tape.
the minute you cover them they are not fae holes
Not if I cover them with Micropore tape.
3Mâ„¢ Microporeâ„¢ Surgical Tape is your first choice for general taping requirements. Its hypoallergenic adhesive is gentle to sensitive and fragile skin. Very porous and breathable, it allows moisture to escape without reducing adhesion. http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_EU/Healthcare-Europe/EU-Home/Products/ProductCatalogue/?PC_Z7_RJH9U52300PI40IA1Q602S28E7000000_nid=34DDVZ1Q1ZbeP7FT9L23G3gl
How do you not know what microtape is? It's widely used as a filter, including on PF tek jars.
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 put some micropore over your mouth and see how much you like it we use poly because it's adjustable we use micropore as a filter for gas exchange not fae
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207716 - 09/08/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i bet if you stuffed rather then taped you would be getting insane canopy's
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207725 - 09/08/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry quick question about sterilizing used syringes. Is the standard tek, Take whole syringe including needle/needle cap/resevoir/ wrap in alluminum foil and PC at 15 psi for 30 mins?
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30 minutes is a little long but yep that works, so does just boiling it though...it's plastic
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Sometimes I'll rotate the tubs mid-fruiting. Notice the curvature of the stems...
  
See the third pic, how there are dimples in some of the caps? Is that bacteria starting or? What causes that?
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2 questions.
1: How could I sterilize a used spore syringe to use again as a spore syringe (is it possible, without a PC?)
2: what prints do you have to trade theshroominizer? Besides cubes
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: invitro]
#22207754 - 09/08/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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those would be from drops of wter from the lid at early stages sitting on the caps muffin just boil the syringes for about 10 minutes then suck up some bopiling water and squirt it out and repeat a couple times then leave it in there one last time till it cools
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at the moment I am trying to trade off some of Gymnopilus Spectabilis / Luteus and also have a few Panaelous Cintulus, I have A TON more, but they are singles and i would like to get 3-5 extra before tradining them off...I know if have Mexicans, Ecuadors, something Pink ?!? (Idk) =( some are pretty rare, but iv been too timid to attempt to grow them cause i dont wanna mess up. Once i succeed and have extras let me know, ill put you on my waiting list and when i make prints, i make SURE they are CLEAN no agar transfers needed
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207777 - 09/08/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: those would be from drops of wter from the lid at early stages sitting on the caps muffin just boil the syringes for about 10 minutes then suck up some bopiling water and squirt it out and repeat a couple times then leave it in there one last time till it cools
Thanks. One last Q.
After sterilizing the syringe how would I go about safely sucking up some spores?
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207778 - 09/08/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 put some micropore over your mouth and see how much you like it we use poly because it's adjustable we use micropore as a filter for gas exchange not fae
And alot of people prefer micropore tape over stuffing tubs with pillow cushion. Is this 1941 Germany or are we allowed more than 1 opinion on the subject? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7893964 ^^^Why is a Trusted Cultivator using tape on his holes?
My canopies are just fine. With well placed holes and moving air, microtape works well.

I'd have canopies of APE if they grew straight up...
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I'm not saying your wrong to do so , people also grew in fishtanks with drip shields do as you will i will always suggest poly your fruits are screaming for fae...all i'm saying as for your link, like i said peopel did lots of fucked up shit 10 years ago lol, we know better now...at least most of us do
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TheShroomanizer said: Sorry quick question about sterilizing used syringes. Is the standard tek, Take whole syringe including needle/needle cap/resevoir/ wrap in alluminum foil and PC at 15 psi for 30 mins?
That's what RR's video suggests. I'd stick with that. half hour isn't too long. As long as there's water in the syringe you won't see any melting.
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 don't put water in your syringe...it will just come back empty anyway lol you can put them in dry they won't melt and 30 minutes is not too long but also longer then needed
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207864 - 09/08/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: I'm not saying your wrong to do so , people also grew in fishtanks with drip shields do as you will i will always suggest poly your fruits are screaming for fae...all i'm saying as for your link, like i said peopel did lots of fucked up shit 10 years ago lol, we know better now...at least most of us do
2008 isn't ancient and Polyfill was used way before that.
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he was an old school dude! trust me i know faht well and like this hobby he has grown as well doesn't change the fact that your fruits are kindly asking for more fae
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207907 - 09/08/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 don't put water in your syringe...it will just come back empty anyway lol you can put them in dry they won't melt and 30 minutes is not too long but also longer then needed
I realizing disagreeing with people like you is pointless and a waste of energy but, just for the sake of simplicity why wouldn't tell newbs to stick to the video? Just to feel more important? An empty syringe will melt at a certain point. Flame sterilizing an empty syringe needle begins to melt it in seconds. With liquid inside you could accidentally leave the PC for hours and be fine.
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no the water in the syringe won't stay there...that's what i'm saying, there is no flames inside of a pc and you do not need any liquid in the syringe what soever
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RogerRabbit said: Boiling water IS enough to sterilize a syringe. Plastic does not harbor bacterial endospores, and fungi like trichoderma and cobweb are killed by temperatures far below boiling.
I fill a pot with water and drop the syringe in. After the water has boiled for ten minutes, pull the syringe out and suck in the boiling water, swish it around and squirt it out. Do this a few times. The syringe will be sterile enough for mycology, I assure you. I've done it this way for years. RR
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207960 - 09/08/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thread is a joke.
Cronicr is only trying to help you Phillyman he has 40000 posts Jesus fuck.
Take his advice say thank you, you don't have to agree or do it. He is aware you can do things multiple ways but he is giving you the most proven methods to current
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: invitro]
#22207963 - 09/08/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sometimes I'll rotate the tubs mid-fruiting. Notice the curvature of the stems...
  
See the third pic, how there are dimples in some of the caps? Is that bacteria starting or? What causes that?
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Sometimes I'll rotate the tubs mid-fruiting. Notice the curvature of the stems...
  
See the third pic, how there are dimples in some of the caps? Is that bacteria starting or? What causes that?
I'm pretty sure you're talking about the white spots on the caps?? That's mycelium...

" Mycelium on the caps is not an indication of too much humidity. It's a combination of two types of mycelium on the fruiting body. It's more genetic in nature, occuring in some substraiins more than others. RR"
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i'm sure he is talking about the actual dimple looking things which is from standing water
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22207984 - 09/08/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: no the water in the syringe won't stay there...that's what i'm saying, there is no flames inside of a pc and you do not need any liquid in the syringe what soever
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RogerRabbit said: Boiling water IS enough to sterilize a syringe. Plastic does not harbor bacterial endospores, and fungi like trichoderma and cobweb are killed by temperatures far below boiling.
I fill a pot with water and drop the syringe in. After the water has boiled for ten minutes, pull the syringe out and suck in the boiling water, swish it around and squirt it out. Do this a few times. The syringe will be sterile enough for mycology, I assure you. I've done it this way for years. RR
My 2 points were simplicity for 1st timers and cheap vendor syringes melting. Maybe you're misunderstanding me but, your points are off target.
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i think you're missing the point....have you ever pc'd a syringe? here i'll make it simple, wrap the empty syringes in tinfoil and pc for 30 minutes or boil them
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: i think you're missing the point....have you ever pc'd a syringe? here i'll make it simple, wrap the empty syringes in tinfoil and pc for 30 minutes or boil them
That's better. If I was doing it for the 1st time that'd be much easier to understand.
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i get that but all i was telling you was not to put water in the syringe before you pc it
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I was posting info on 6500k lights for the op and the community. Most people understand things better with visuals so I post pictures.
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CubensisFrenzy said: Most people understand things better with visuals so I post pictures.
agreed that's why i posted the .. it didnt' seem to help you though
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: muffin just boil the syringes for about 10 minutes then suck up some bopiling water and squirt it out and repeat a couple times then leave it in there one last time till it cools
and this is why everybody pushes agar. That is not how to make a clean syringe.
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CubensisFrenzy, you have one of the best growers and teachers on this site giving you some help, take it. Unless your syringe is totally closed system, pressure cooking the syringe with water inside will not work, the water will boil out. There are no "cheap" vendor syringes which will melt.
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: muffin just boil the syringes for about 10 minutes then suck up some bopiling water and squirt it out and repeat a couple times then leave it in there one last time till it cools
and this is why everybody pushes agar. That is not how to make a clean syringe. 


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I fill a pot with water and drop the syringe in. After the water has boiled for ten minutes, pull the syringe out and suck in the boiling water, swish it around and squirt it out. Do this a few times. The syringe will be sterile enough for mycology, I assure you. I've done it this way for years. RR
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: blackdust]
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cronicr said: muffin just boil the syringes for about 10 minutes then suck up some bopiling water and squirt it out and repeat a couple times then leave it in there one last time till it cools
and this is why everybody pushes agar. That is not how to make a clean syringe. 
Everybody pushes agar because it allows you to secure a clean culture. I don't like tossing 100s of quart jars, and I don't like sitting around wondering if the material I'm inoculating with may or may not be clean. Maybe I'm weird.
That WILL make a clean spore syringe, period. I've done it this way many, many times. You want to know how I know this, besides that fact that I've seen repeated success with this technique? Take up some boiled water, aspirate it, take it up, aspirate, take it up, leave it. Now drop some of this water on a sterile slide and view it. Tell me what you see.
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Exactly, it doesn't harbour endo spores like grains do and things like trich die well below boiling temps
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TheShroomanizer said: I have 3 cakes currently in the SGFC. I have been doing a 12/12 regiment of TOTAL dark + Regular sunlight (Indirect). I just recently did a 2 day period of SOLID darkness and noticed pin sets coming. Is this commmon knowledge that placing them in a darkroom will start the fruiting sequence, then exposing them natural light enhances fruit body growth?
just a coincidence they were simply ready to fruit
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TheEaglesGift said: CubensisFrenzy, you have one of the best growers and teachers on this site giving you some help, take it. Unless your syringe is totally closed system, pressure cooking the syringe with water inside will not work, the water will boil out. There are no "cheap" vendor syringes which will melt.
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You catty bitches need to relax and get off your man's nuts.

If you're going to flame sterilize the needle before filling with liquid, it will melt. with no liquid inside to cool it, the needle gets red hot and melts away from the plastic holding it. I always flame sterilize. Even after PCing it.
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well you are only supposed to flame the tip..i'm sitting here in response to your post flaming an empty syringe tip....ain't fuck all melting
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
#22208096 - 09/08/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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water is a vessel for contamination. Bod should chime in how fast bacteria can spread expand in water
--- anyone making syringes without agar need to use the highest level of sterile tek as they can.
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: blackdust]
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not after you boil it for 10 mins. try it like eagle said.
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: blackdust]
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blackdust said: water is a vessel for contamination. Bod should chime in how fast bacteria can spread expand in water
--- anyone making syringes without agar need to use the highest level of sterile tek as they can.
everythign is a fucking vessel for contamination lol, that's why we boil/pc /sab/fh our shit....if anybody you should understand this by now
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I should have said "can" melt. Not will. I've had a few and they'll also become crooked.
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haha i've done that trying to shove the hot needle through poly
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
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Boiling is not sterilization and is more accurately characterized as pasteurization. https://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/water/drinking/boilwater/response_information_public_health_professional.htm
Sure, boiling water may work just as oven pasteurizing a grain medium. What I am trying to argue is that PC is better than boiling in the ratio of success to failure.
oven pasteurized cakes - works, even when neglected - but not recommended.
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: blackdust]
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lol, no, boilign syringes works perfectly fine and the proof is in the pudding.
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: blackdust]
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Boiling is not sterilization and is more accurately characterized as pasteurization. https://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/water/drinking/boilwater/response_information_public_health_professional.htm
Sure, boiling water may work just as oven pasteurizing a grain medium. What I am trying to argue is that PC is better than boiling in the ratio of success to failure.
just go away, you are not worth arguing with
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: cronicr]
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: blackdust]
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Re: Lighting Frequencies [Re: blackdust]
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that is not the picture I would post to try and prove my argument. there is a lot going on there and none of it is good. Also, why is there metabolite/bacteria covered perlite all over everything?
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please dont ask steve... bd is gonna have a fresh start this time.. yeah. right bd?
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yes space
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The culture on this forum needs a serious change. Telling people to go away while your buddies laugh at them is high school 2.0
You can't take a shit without someone from the shroomery critiquing you or trying to point out something you are doing wrong.
It's masked as "advice" but, that's bullshit. This is a community and we shouldn't be alienating people whether they're right or wrong. Until Psilocybin containing mushrooms are more accepted and scientists are allowed to study them further, this online community is probably the best thing we have to research and advance the evolution mushroom cultivation. Let's make it a welcoming, learning tool. Not just one big argument.
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CubensisFrenzy said: The culture on this forum needs a serious change. Telling people to go away while your buddies laugh at them is high school 2.0
You can't take a shit without someone from the shroomery critiquing you or trying to point out something you are doing wrong.
It's masked as "advice" but, that's bullshit. This is a community and we shouldn't be alienating people whether they're right or wrong. Until Psilocybin containing mushrooms are more accepted and scientists are allowed to study them further, this online community is probably the best thing we have to research and advance the evolution mushroom cultivation. Let's make it a welcoming, learning tool. Not just one big argument.
oh give it a rest bd knows me all to well lol, we're good trust me i'll slam anybody for bs advise and i don't' care if i like the person or not, if i see something wrong i'll call ya on it that's just the way it is
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CubensisFrenzy said: You can't take a shit without someone from the shroomery critiquing you or trying to point out something you are doing wrong.
It's masked as "advice" but, that's bullshit. This is a community and we shouldn't be alienating people whether they're right or wrong
its called constructive criticism and you should learn to deal with it. why get upset over some text on a screen telling you how to improve? just say thank you.
blackdust has somewhat of a history here, it may seem like bullying to you but he knows what he's doing.
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CubensisFrenzy said: You can't take a shit without someone from the shroomery critiquing you or trying to point out something you are doing wrong.
It's masked as "advice" but, that's bullshit. This is a community and we shouldn't be alienating people whether they're right or wrong
its called constructive criticism and you should learn to deal with it. why get upset over some text on a screen telling you how to improve? just say thank you.
blackdust has somewhat of a history here, it may seem like bullying to you but he knows what he's doing.
This is your perception and expected reaction. This 1 thread is just an example. Just 1 drop contributing to the contamination of the bucket.
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this community polices itself and has been just fine for many years. don't worry about bd or the rest of us. this is the internet, not daycamp harden the fuck up
I see you are very very new to the scene here. Perhaps mycotopia or Professor Pin Head's site may be more your speed. Glad to have you here though.
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SteveRogers said: this community polices itself and has been just fine for many years. don't worry about bd or the rest of us. this is the internet, not daycamp harden the fuck up
I see you are very very new to the scene here. Perhaps mycotopia or Professor Pin Head's site may be more your speed. Glad to have you here though.
New Username doesn't = new to the scene. Who would post shit like this after a month? This is years of experience talking. You guys are fucking dicks and deter people from speaking their mind. Ya know who else did that?
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I guess if that's the way you want it then fine. If this kind of attitude and ability to digest other user critiques is "years of experience" then maybe you have been growing the wrong kind of mushrooms.
Notice that neither bd is complaining nor is one of the moderators. We are all good man. Chill.
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how would this place help anyone if we just let bad advice slide in every thread huh?
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Smug remarks followed by attempts at humor from elitists isn't constructive criticism.
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I guess you win then? Sorry our community doesn't conform to your halcyon view of what it should be.
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spacechildo said: how would this place help anyone if we just let bad advice slide in every thread huh?
it would be
www.reddit.com/r/mushroomgrowers www.reddit.com/r/shroomers www.reddit.com/r/shrooms
take your pick. they all suck and pass around info like sabs and flame sterilization are bullshit.
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CubensisFrenzy said: Smug remarks followed by attempts at humor from elitists isn't constructive criticism.
you're the only one complaining here, your upset because you were wrong and couldn't' handle it, i see nothing that needs to change other then people need to learn to take advise as is and not get all butt hurt over shit, grow up
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I normally wouldn't keep posting but, that's your goal. Youre like white blood cells on a virus or zombies with 1 living in the area. "It's the internet" Fuckin stupid... That's pretty much the reason it pisses me off I guess. A computer gives you the license to act how you really want but, are too scared to in your daily life.
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