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Heisencybin
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The BIG deja vu
#22206625 - 09/08/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey shroomery friends. So a few months ago, I was tripping on shrooms alone one night. I was laying down listening to nature sounds when all of the sudden I felt a little uneasy and was drawn to the bathroom. I sat down on the floor in complete darkness. Memories and visions flowing through my thoughts. Thinking about my family and learning to accept death. It was pretty intense and kinda depressing at some points, but i was forced to accept death and memories from my past. When all of the sudden, I was hit with this intense feeling. Kinda like a satori enlightening vibe with extreme deja vu. But it wasn't ordinary deja vu where you feel like you've done something before, but rather the BIG deja vu feeling...
That I've been here before. I've lived before. Perhaps even this same life before...
Now I have never really considered reincarnation much, but this feeling was undeniable and I've been contemplating that moment ever since and doing research into reincarnation and related. It was so damn strong and came out of no where. Just randomly hit me and I couldnt shake it with reason. It was truly undeniable in that moment. I accepted death of my family and friends and also myself. I realized that it isn't so bad. Then this moment came.
Anyone else have a similar experience or thoughts/visions about this "BIG deja vu" feeling?
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Heisencybin
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No one? Really now?
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I've experienced deja vu feelings while tripping, yeah. No question. For me it's the psychedelic loop. It's like everything loops back around again when you're tripping. Or feels like it anyway. Where you've felt that same exact feeling before, but you only notice it on a trip. And I don't mean the trip feeling -- it's something else. I don't really know how to put into words, but I know what you're talking about.
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Re: The BIG deja vu [Re: Niffla]
#22211877 - 09/09/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I get that feeling while tripping....mostly when sober though honestly..
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Heisencybin
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So perhaps it was just my train of thought contemplating death that led my thoughts to ponder about reincarnation, which in turn cycled in loops afterward, making it feel more and more real and reasonable?
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The important question is, was the feeling you were hit with happy?
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spookman
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I haven't had that exact experience but I'm certainly open to it. I've certainly been convinced during deja vu that I actually have "been there" before.
With the possibility (even likelihood) of extra dimensions as proposed by String Theory, combined with the Uncertainty Principle, it's possible that we exist on more than one level. Perhaps parts of us - quarks or whatever - are hopping back and forth all the time, too subtly for us to notice.
Anyway, I like your trip. Hopefully I can experience similar at some point.
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Re: The BIG deja vu [Re: spookman]
#22272340 - 09/22/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Deja vu feeling = Destiny Destiny = Kalü Bela = Ezm-i Belest
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Re: The BIG deja vu [Re: spookman]
#22272677 - 09/22/15 05:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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spookman said: I haven't had that exact experience but I'm certainly open to it. I've certainly been convinced during deja vu that I actually have "been there" before.
With the possibility (even likelihood) of extra dimensions as proposed by String Theory, combined with the Uncertainty Principle, it's possible that we exist on more than one level. Perhaps parts of us - quarks or whatever - are hopping back and forth all the time, too subtly for us to notice.
Anyway, I like your trip. Hopefully I can experience similar at some point.
Trust me, we are multi-dimensional beings and there are infinite universes, many parallel, others opposite, others are copies that have slight changes all for our souls and oversouls to gain more wisdom. So yes, indeed, we have many parallel lifes and past lifes as well... soon all of this will be easier to understand to everybody.
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spookman
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AkashicExplorer said:
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spookman said: I haven't had that exact experience but I'm certainly open to it. I've certainly been convinced during deja vu that I actually have "been there" before.
With the possibility (even likelihood) of extra dimensions as proposed by String Theory, combined with the Uncertainty Principle, it's possible that we exist on more than one level. Perhaps parts of us - quarks or whatever - are hopping back and forth all the time, too subtly for us to notice.
Anyway, I like your trip. Hopefully I can experience similar at some point.
Trust me, we are multi-dimensional beings and there are infinite universes, many parallel, others opposite, others are copies that have slight changes all for our souls and oversouls to gain more wisdom. So yes, indeed, we have many parallel lifes and past lifes as well... soon all of this will be easier to understand to everybody.
Can't wait.
-------------------- Subterranean Hermes, guardian of my father's realms, Become my saviour and my ally, in answer to my prayer. For I am come and do return to this my land. - Aristophanes, The Frogs.
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Will come back to this when I have a full keyboard.
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AkashicExplorer said:
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spookman said: I haven't had that exact experience but I'm certainly open to it. I've certainly been convinced during deja vu that I actually have "been there" before.
With the possibility (even likelihood) of extra dimensions as proposed by String Theory, combined with the Uncertainty Principle, it's possible that we exist on more than one level. Perhaps parts of us - quarks or whatever - are hopping back and forth all the time, too subtly for us to notice.
Anyway, I like your trip. Hopefully I can experience similar at some point.
Trust me, we are multi-dimensional beings and there are infinite universes, many parallel, others opposite, others are copies that have slight changes all for our souls and oversouls to gain more wisdom. So yes, indeed, we have many parallel lifes and past lifes as well... soon all of this will be easier to understand to everybody.
You seem quite confident in this belief. Care to share your reasoning/experiences? I have tripped a lot and gone out a body a couple frightening times and can see how one would propose these theories, but I'm also always skeptical that it may just be in my head. My brain creating what it wants to see... yet, it can seem so real. Like a lucid dream... dreams are just a manifestation of your thoughts right? Or are your dream realities perhaps something more?
Obviously, these topics can be debated forever and there is no direct absolute truth without faith and or science if it gets there. But it never ceases to amaze my wonder to ponder.
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Totally get it. On more than one occassion on a heavy dose of shrooms I was shown the place souls are reborn. I had a extreme sense of dejavu, like I had been there thousands of times before.
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Jeff Vader said: Totally get it. On more than one occassion on a heavy dose of shrooms I was shown the place souls are reborn. I had a extreme sense of dejavu, like I had been there thousands of times before.
Hmm tell me more about this place? What did you see and was it out of body? Perhaps similar to dmt?
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I always have a big déjà vue when I breakthrough on salvia ,it's like a nightmare i revisit ,I just know this place too well even tho it's different everytime.
Weird stuff , on shroom I had a different kind of déjà vue .the kind that was totally unrelated to my life ,like being a tribe member or some stuff
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I have had similar apparitions on mushrooms, op. But, even more importantly than that...I can recall my very early years...3 or 4 years old...having this absolute knowing, without a doubt type feeling that I had come from somewhere else...this was not my first go-around. Years and just living life stuff that realization to where it is barely a memory...nonetheless, it is still there.
Mushrooms helped me to recall that feeling and also to not fear death as much as I had in the past...I believe that death yields rebirth .
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Never quite experienced deja-vu during a trip, but post-trip I have felt a strong sense of deja-vu like I have gone through this passage of time before
Maybe we are re-living our lives all over again and deja-vu is a glimpse of a reminder that we are
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Re: The BIG deja vu [Re: Elff]
#22273272 - 09/22/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Time is an eternal loop, happening all at once.
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Re: The BIG deja vu [Re: spookman]
#22273548 - 09/22/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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spookman said: Time is an eternal loop, happening all at once.
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Re: The BIG deja vu [Re: spookman] 1
#22273765 - 09/22/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This body has a linear design (birth > life > death) so that we may observe things in a tangible fashion, otherwise everything WOULD happen all at once. My belief is that the nature of mushrooms being decayers of living things, have a sort of "one foot in the grave" effect. They are the opposing half of the life cycle which when ingested pulls our consciousness/experiential mind into the void and can at times break the connection that our physical body has on us allowing us to step out of time. With time out of the picture we are free to experience things in a non-linear fashion, which in turn means we can be/are all things at all times. Not in any literal sense of "being" because to step out of time like this would be to step out of the physical body, so you never physically be anyone anywhere, but you would know the experience as your own (even though you would not be an individual, you would be the whole, containing that experience). This leads to the feeling of deja vu because it is in a sense.
This is the idea/feeling I got from a particularly intense trip where I realized the reality of our bodies and their design to observe and report, they are a type of energetic antennae built to receive and perceive.
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spookman
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Nice.
-------------------- Subterranean Hermes, guardian of my father's realms, Become my saviour and my ally, in answer to my prayer. For I am come and do return to this my land. - Aristophanes, The Frogs.
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nuentoter said: This body has a linear design (birth > life > death) so that we may observe things in a tangible fashion, otherwise everything WOULD happen all at once. My belief is that the nature of mushrooms being decayers of living things, have a sort of "one foot in the grave" effect. They are the opposing half of the life cycle which when ingested pulls our consciousness/experiential mind into the void and can at times break the connection that our physical body has on us allowing us to step out of time. With time out of the picture we are free to experience things in a non-linear fashion, which in turn means we can be/are all things at all times. Not in any literal sense of "being" because to step out of time like this would be to step out of the physical body, so you never physically be anyone anywhere, but you would know the experience as your own (even though you would not be an individual, you would be the whole, containing that experience). This leads to the feeling of deja vu because it is in a sense.
This is the idea/feeling I got from a particularly intense trip where I realized the reality of our bodies and their design to observe and report, they are a type of energetic antennae built to receive and perceive.
Awesome explanation my friend I've also pondered the theory that time is cyclical rather than linear. but i then wonder, with this deja vu feeling and returning of souls into physical bodies, am I reliving my own life over and over or perhaps my singular soul reliving in different bodies throughout this cycle of "time?"
I consider this to be two sides of the reincarnation coin with the latter having a lot less souls that are just recycled. And every loop of time, I would presume that I live in the same physical bodies, but a bunch of different ones through this cycle. my reasoning with this theory is that everything may be predetermined then... so it would negate free will. I obviously have a lot more research to do into reincarnation though...
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I don't believe in any concept of singularity after physical death. I think of it more in the means of infinite expansion and then finite contraction. This physical life and body is the point of finite contraction and death and the "release" (i think of it more as the body being an antennae and allowing concentrated flow and not really holding an energy/soul but rather being a temporary conductor of sorts) of this energy from its concentrated path back into the whole. This is also a fractalized concept of the expansion and contraction of the universe.
I don't know how i feel about destiny/predetermined paths. I lean more towards the idea that there is a trodden path of the most likely reality (this currently experienced universe) and there are an infinite number of ways of getting to the same place(destination unknown so far, doubting there is a destination, and more of simply a walking meditation of just moving) by either walking that trodden path or taking the woods, or circumnavigating the woods all together and finding a path through the mountains or desert. These paths are akin to being a follower or a leader, type A or type B personality if you will.
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