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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: zappaisgod]
#22207231 - 09/08/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah it looks like PCP to me. That's how like everyone acts on PCP.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22207243 - 09/08/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't act that way when I did it but I intelligently dosed and didn't get all whacked out. But I know some people who did lose their shit.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: zappaisgod]
#22207563 - 09/08/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do high doses of MXE carry the same risk of freaking out and going on a delusional rampage?
I figure as long as you dose low PCP and have a sitter the dopamine rush or whatever shouldn't cause you to lose your shit
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: koods] 1
#22207660 - 09/08/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The dude in the McDonalds was clearly causing a scene
wow. causing a scene. what a hardened criminal.
those cops are pathetic. three grown men take 5 minutes to get one passively resisting guy into handcuffs. what a joke.
You better show how it's done, something tells me you couldn't detain a child, never mind a drugged out adult.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: qman]
#22207705 - 09/08/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What do the drugs have anything to do with it when the cop tackled him then got off the guy and continued to try and wimpy kick and tase him, rather than doing what they do any other time? Which would be staying on him and cuffing him. The guy was outnumbered and passive for fuck sake.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22207743 - 09/08/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No, fuck him he needs to just go down and do what they say. I don't give a fuck how high or drunk he was. He had no business being in a family restaurant either. Stupid douchebag.
You can't really believe that can you? Did you watch the video? He was obviously too high or whatever to understand what was going on. Did you see how slow his reaction time was when he was being hit. Violence should be the last resort. That first cop was twice his size and could have easily ran up on him and either tackled him or put him in a bear hug. He didn't even have any weapons. When you defend this kind of stuff it makes you just as bad as the cops.
I would think you would have more sympathy for this guy because this could easily be you or someone you know. One day your shrooms might be way stronger than you expected, or your new prescription makes you nutty, and you end up wandering into a McDonalds. I doubt you would be defending the cops if you were the victim.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: Lophosaurus]
#22207826 - 09/08/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do not care how high he was. It is no excuse for anything ever. It could never be me. I am not a fucking idiot who would get that trashed in public
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XLCaps said: What do the drugs have anything to do with it when the cop tackled him then got off the guy and continued to try and wimpy kick and tase him, rather than doing what they do any other time? Which would be staying on him and cuffing him. The guy was outnumbered and passive for fuck sake.
Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: qman] 2
#22207857 - 09/08/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
You put their hands behind their back for them, rather then hitting them with metal sticks and electrocuting them.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: zappaisgod] 3
#22207893 - 09/08/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Once you're that high you don't know what you'll do. You might be planning on staying home and eating some shrooms. Then all of a sudden you're so high that you wander out. Next thing you know you're out of your mind at McDonalds.
That is not even the point. The point is that he wasn't acting aggressive, didn't have a gun, and was not much of a threat. That cop was twice his size and could've easily just grabbed him or tackled him and got him away from those families. Instead he was tasing him and following him around when all those people are eating their food. The nutty guy could've easily grabbed and killed one of those kids while that was going on. Then they beat him up instead of tackling and cuffing.
Do you really think the cops handled this situation the best way possible?
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: Sheekle]
#22207901 - 09/08/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Idk bitter cactus is right there 2
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: Sheekle] 2
#22207909 - 09/08/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
You put their hands behind their back for them,
It sounds so simple, yet IRL it's not so easy.
I will tell you what, you pick two of your friends and yourself to arrest a man who doesn't comply, I pick the non complier, you game?
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: Sheekle]
#22207911 - 09/08/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If no one is in immediate danger you should try to peacefully talk him down, even if it just goes in circles for two hours. Some people think cops don't have time for that, I think it's precisely what their function should be. Violence should be a last resort
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: qman]
#22207918 - 09/08/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: What do the drugs have anything to do with it when the cop tackled him then got off the guy and continued to try and wimpy kick and tase him, rather than doing what they do any other time? Which would be staying on him and cuffing him. The guy was outnumbered and passive for fuck sake.
Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
Wow, I don't know, by tackling him and following the proper procedure after it?
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: qman]
#22207922 - 09/08/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
You put their hands behind their back for them,
It sounds so simple, yet IRL it's not so easy.
I will tell you what, you pick two of your friends and yourself to arrest a man who doesn't comply, I pick the non complier, you game? 
They didn't even try.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: Sheekle]
#22207939 - 09/08/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
You put their hands behind their back for them,
It sounds so simple, yet IRL it's not so easy.
I will tell you what, you pick two of your friends and yourself to arrest a man who doesn't comply, I pick the non complier, you game? 
They didn't even try.
Ya. I figure the dude could have done way more damage in that time. I am surprised that he didnt even respond
They spread out the violence beyond whats nessacary. And @Zappa, I dont think this guy planned on being at McD's on pcp and whatever else. His logical faculties were done with at that point and hence the situation got out of hand
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XLCaps said: What do the drugs have anything to do with it when the cop tackled him then got off the guy and continued to try and wimpy kick and tase him, rather than doing what they do any other time? Which would be staying on him and cuffing him. The guy was outnumbered and passive for fuck sake.
Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
Wow, I don't know, by tackling him and following the proper procedure after it?
And what training have you had that you know what the proper procedure is? Do you remember the outcry when the cops didn't get off the fat asthmatic fuck Eric Garner?
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XLCaps said: What do the drugs have anything to do with it when the cop tackled him then got off the guy and continued to try and wimpy kick and tase him, rather than doing what they do any other time? Which would be staying on him and cuffing him. The guy was outnumbered and passive for fuck sake.
Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
Wow, I don't know, by tackling him and following the proper procedure after it?
You do realize tackling and wrestling with a drug out person who might have a knife is a very dangerous approach for a cop? What do you care, you just place judgment on someone who potentially risks their life everyday.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: qman]
#22208098 - 09/08/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: What do the drugs have anything to do with it when the cop tackled him then got off the guy and continued to try and wimpy kick and tase him, rather than doing what they do any other time? Which would be staying on him and cuffing him. The guy was outnumbered and passive for fuck sake.
Why didn't he comply with basic police orders? Why didn't he put his hands behind his back?
How would you detain a person who doesn't comply?
Wow, I don't know, by tackling him and following the proper procedure after it?
You do realize tackling and wrestling with a drug out person who might have a knife is a very dangerous approach for a cop? What do you care, you just place judgment on someone who potentially risks their life everyday.
Did you see how slow the guys reactions were. I bet the cop could have walked up to him and cuffed him without any trouble. He definitely could have tackled him. You think a guy in that state could pull a knife out fast enough to slice a cop before he tackles him from about 5' away. The cop chose a dangerous job, he wasn't forced into it, and if he gets hurt doing it that is just part of the job. You would rather him follow the guy around a fast food joint where people are eating. What if it was you and your kid in there and the nutty guy started attacking your kid? At least the cop didn't get bruised right, that was definitely worth putting civilians in danger and attacking defenseless people.
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Re: Damn police completely destroy this guy [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22208192 - 09/08/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I do not care how high he was. It is no excuse for anything ever. It could never be me. I am not a fucking idiot who would get that trashed in public
That's exactly how someone who is hypoglycemic behaves as well. Or maybe they are having a stroke. When someone can't comply with oral commands, they probably need medical attention, not repeated electric shocks.
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