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The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All?
    #22206412 - 09/08/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, this isn't a story of shrooms, but some form of acid. I don't know was it LSD or bromo-DragonFly, but it was strange. In the trip I saw that the existence is endless, I felt suffering and joy, I saw the eye of God, I saw a halo and I saw "heaven" and "hell" to go to the sides.

That's basically it and it happened with three dosages of this acid that had a getafix in them, also it needed a hit from a bong. It lasted only as long as the effect of the weed, but sure it was strange, especially since. A story that went through the trip with the final curtains of "heaven" and "hell" to go to the sides.

I don't have any need to try to make the trip something more. It could be, it might not be, but I think it's pretty irrelevant, or I tell you how I perceive the reality at the moment.

The way I perceive the reality at the moment is that we are all made of atoms, but atoms are made of particles and the particles could be made of strings. I'm a man towards the idea that what is inside, is in the outside and again in the inside. With that I mean if all is made of strings, well then consciousness is made of strings and therefore all matter would be made of the same stuff. Everything at some level could be consciousness, or that everything exists and it creates consciousness as part of it being part of the whole.

You can call it the unified field of consciousness or whatever, because also I'm kinda towards the information theory and the idea that everything in the existence is based on raw data. For an example in the beneath of everything could be "zeros" and "ones" and consciousness would be made of "zeros" and "ones", so in a sense everything would be information and everything would be same as consciousness. I think it's pretty wicked, but I have read of people experiencing mathematical forms in for an example DMT and possibly also in shrooms.

I think that consciousness part of everything is fundamental, and it in my opinion is part of everything as much as everything is part of it. Of course there is the possibility that consciousness lives inside of some sort of metaphysical existence, but I'm towards nondualism where every aspect of the reality is the same.

Of course after the trip of seeing the eye of God I also heard the Devil to speak to me in Egypt. I'm not a man of God nor the Devil because I'm a man of nondualism. Dualism as archetypes of the mind could be part of the whole, but beneath everything would be nondualism in my perspective.

I'm not going to say that now of course there must exist some sort of higher figures like God and the Devil because I'm the man of Marvel Comics. I like to perceive that beneath everything is the One-Above-All, the highest figure of Marvel. The One-Above-All wouldn't be that much neither good nor bad. It would be the whole fabric of space and everything. I don't know if it's impersonal or personal, but I feel that we all in some level are part of the One-Above-All. We could be the One-Above-All or there could be higher ranks to the ball game, but I think that the One-Above-All would be the highest if you want to play the game of personal God, or impersonal God.

Still back to the nondualism, well the thing just is that I think that everything is in the end made of the same stuff and that could be strings, that could be information, that could be higher mechanics that control the whole existence and consciousness I feel is part of everything. For an example I have thought of rebirth and I think that rebirth happens if the mechanics of the cosmos are deeper than what we realize. The depth of the ball game is what fascinates me.

I have done amphetamine and ecstasy about 50 times each, cocaine I have done 20 times, opium I have done once as tea, shrooms I have done about 10 times and acid I have done about 10 times. I'm not a heavy hitter in the ball game, but I'm just fascinated when I now have a concept for reality that could have far more abstract truths behind it, well I'm in a quarrel and that is because I live in Finland and the problem is that I can't purchase a grow kit that would be shipped here. I don't have at the moment much friends who are growing shrooms and the point just is that I would like to see in this metaphysical/psychophysical concept that is there any base to nirvana and all sort of weirdness.

I don't know if it's against the policies to ask a question like this? Probably isn't? And I do understand if the answer is negative. Just that I feel that I should go to somewhat an epic journey of understanding the reality in first person mode and I don't wish to do acid because acid unlocked my mind to hear voices. I think that it messes at some level the chemistry of the brain to ways that I don't like, and with shrooms I have always had positive things. I have always loved them much more than acid and am interested what the "heroic dose" is about.

And I don't wish to get now people towards the concept of the idea that everything is consciousness because for an example if everything was information, well that doesn't necessarily mean that everything would be conscious, just that everything would be the same and consciousness and the reality aren't that much of apart. That is my theory and I have come to a stage where I understand that there could be much deeper mechanics to the reality and the reality sandwich is kinda of a strange one. Whatever this stuff is made of, well it could be very weird indeed.

Of course if you have had experiences towards things like mathematical formations and nirvana, etc. I would love to hear about them because I understand pretty well concepts, but I haven't experienced nirvana. I have experienced oneness which could be towards the nirvana of a living entity, but I'm towards a quest to know could there be even deeper mechanics to every single thing. I think for an example that rebirth is possible, but I'm having hard time of understanding how afterlife could be possible in form or formless. I just want to have a moment where I'm like "Holy shit! Now I understand!" I understand the concepts how mechanically or by a holistic view the strangeness of the existence could be far off my reach to comprehend, but I just want to feel it and experience it!

I just wish to understand what the Buddha was on about with wisdom above wisdom that can't be fully explained, but it is something to experience. And I hope you liked my writing, but I want to explain that the thoughts beneath it might not have that much to do with science, or I have thought about them and feel that there isn't much that science can overrule because we simply at this moment and day of age can't know yet.

I'm a man of gonzo!



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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: Hattivattitatti]
    #22206464 - 09/08/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

“There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” - Miyamoto Musashi

Everything that is in you is in me and everything that is in me is in you.

I've experienced this same thing almost to the T. Don't wish to understand what Buddha was speaking of for what Buddha was speaking of is what you're presently experiencing, all you need to do is sit and perceive.

And with regards to one of your closing sentences: "but I want to explain that the thoughts beneath it might not have that much to do with science, or I have thought about them and feel that there isn't much that science can overrule because we simply at this moment and day of age can't know yet."

Science and creative thinking use to be one in the same. The original engineers were artists who began studying how to build structures to gain a greater understanding of perspective. So engineering (science) was an auxiliary practice used to expand the creative process.

Thinking the way you've written above is very necessary for science to advance in my opinion.

Some interesting shit, eh?


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #22206700 - 09/08/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you for your answer. At the moment I'm going in an understanding that at some deeper level, well mathematics is the universal language and therefore everything could be just mathematics, but it comes to consciousness and everything could be consciousness. There could be deeper mechanics to whole experience, for an example is time at this moment or everywhere and is the existence just a cold forward going cosmos or is it a whole?

I'm not going towards God because of the experience and I'm not going towards the Devil, but yet I ponder is there some sort of deeper mechanics to the whole experience of life, is it a whole? Do we get information from all the levels of existence, does the unconscious or subconscious mind live in the endless CydelikSpace and we experience only fractions of that continuing existence while being under the influence.

It's all mind boggling and I think the point will be to have some more shrooms eventually, to understand is it all of mathematics, mechanics, consciousness as part of the surreal whole.

It's interesting stuff!


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: Hattivattitatti]
    #22206737 - 09/08/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22206772 - 09/08/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lol


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #22206837 - 09/08/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Everything "could just be mathematics" OR mathematics could just be the vessel in which everything is materialized (a tool).

When I think of "God" or the "Devil" I don't think of the preconceived images of both figures. Instead of think of 2 ends of a spectrum with life happening right in the middle. Every moment is a shift toward one of those points and eventually a shift back to the center or towards the other direction.

MDMA is the best immediate example of this rhythm we see in life. First wave, "Oh man this feels great! I never want it to end", first drop "Aw man this sucks, what am I ever going to do with myself?, 2nd wave "Yay, I'm happy again", 2nd drop, "aw man...".

Every time I have a bad day it's pretty safe for me to assume that in at least 2 days from that current realization, shit just seems to get better.

Find the rhythm of your life and ride the wave. It's only when we resist feeling poorly do we feel bad longer than what is necessary (I know the point of your post wasn't that you felt bad it's just where my tangent took me to). :laugh:

I totally believe we were meant to eat mushrooms way more frequently than what we currently do. If we need food to nourish our body, than who's to say fungus wasn't meant to be eaten to nourish our consciousness. 

Especially if we talk about cycles and life rhythms. It's interesting to note the cycle that psychedelics make in the world. They come around, gain popularity, people become wise, they disappear, people become egocentric and dumb, then people hundreds to thousands of years later find them again only to remember and find what was once already there...what has always been there. Even psychedelic use happens in cycles on a global and historical level.

Yay for cycles....except menstruation.


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #22206847 - 09/08/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I trip every 2 weeks...:bigyesnod:


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22206872 - 09/08/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I mean more along the lines of a .50-.75g dose every few days. I know some of you will mention things like tolerance and whatnot but again, the objective here isn't to have a full blown trip.


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #22206984 - 09/08/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I sometimes feel on a larger microdose that it's turning everyone else on a little bit too.  I generally do only .2g however, twice a week.


The eye of god is closed as long as we are.

But the kingdom of heaven is at hand.



The mathematics underlying the structure of reality are an expression of that reality; not expressing it (nature as self-organizing intelligence). 


Stare at the gears and think "oh, fate!" or start fiddling, reintegrating, refining, transmuting and transcending.


That's the real "shift".  Integrating awareness into reality; a new (old) concept.  As we walk through the "math matrix" with consciousness intact all things fall into place without trying (wei wu wei)... the synchronous "zone" of acting in accordance with the Way of natural intelligence. 


I dunno; just some thoughts.


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All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #22207019 - 09/08/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, well I'm towards with the Devil and God as merely parts of nondualism. I don't really know how to put it, an endless ocean of "insanity"? Where every single thing is tied to each other. The idea with the One-Above-All is that "I'm" the One-Above-All like all the rest probably, we are parts of the ocean of "insanity" as the One-Above-All.

I'm just in the thought that the Devil and God are merely aspects, but I feel that the existence as it is, well it's far above figures like them. It comes to concept that we all experience everything and everything experiences in us.

For an example I like the thoughts in the writing about CydelikSpace on Erowid, but I'm more towards that the whole existence would be about much deeper experiences where you do experience it all in abstract. Of course I'm not a heavy hitter, but tried to ponder all sort of self-transcendence by understanding how we are all just mechanics of the One-Above-All.

Something like that, but I do must make more investigation towards the subject and have thought next summer to go to the cabin near a lake with grass and doing some. I'm in no hurry because I try to think the possible mechanics from mathematics to all being consciousness in the ocean of madness.

I just need a grow kit someday. It's frustrating, but like I said I'm in no hurry! Sorry if didn't make sense... I'm on a cell phone and I'm also very interested how you experience it all.

A little edit... And that is that of course in the ocean of "insanity" would have to be mechanics that would put it towards "clarity". I dunno. Perfectly synchronized thing of awe?


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: flickedbic]
    #22207068 - 09/08/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

"the synchronous zone" Ohhhhhhh Man synchronicity....

My 2nd to last acid trip with a friend was so full of them. More so than normal. There was a really cool point in the trip where we were walking towards Downtown Saint Petersburg in Florida and for probably a sold hour give or take we carried about 4 different conversations at the same time. Every time a car would pass by the topic of conversation would switch and take off from where it was left previously. So like this.

----Car drives by conversation switches from C1 to C2----

----Car drives by conversation switches to C3----

----Car drives by conversation switches to C4----

----Car drives by conversation switches back to original to C1----

And so on in one continuous loop until all 4 conversations were done which lasted a good few hours in totality.

Also with another friend we find that we can intentionally create a point of singularity (I'm not sure what else to call it so sorry if that's inaccurate.) by doing a backwards count. I find those moements almost always happen after a conversation has had a flawless unbroken flow and with serious intentions. It's almost like 2 or more people can "ping" off of one another amplifying each other's presence in some uncertain but definitely positive and noticeable way. To me it feels like I'm in a state of "positive cell development"...take that for what it's worth.

But by counting backwards with the clearly defined intention of reaching a single common outcome with the joined efforts of both parties involved it leads to some pretty interesting stuff.

Over the course of 4 trips on LSD with this same person it took decreasingly less time to reach this state. The first time happened in about 6 or so hours. Second time about 5 hours. Third time about 2.5 and the 4the time roughly into the first hour of our experience.

Has anyone else ever had similar experiences? There has to be a practical use for this shit haha.


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #22225714 - 09/12/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So, looked upon some C. G. Jung and I might have gone a little overboard with some of the thoughts, but do you think that we live in deeper synchronity with the cosmos? I'm just interested about the subject cause I'm thinking this from slighthly Buddhist persepective because I sometimes think that whar if the mechanics of the cosmos would have a deeper structure from death to the possible rebirth. The synchronity might need deeper structures, but I sometimes ponder are all hallucinations caused by synchronity or because of random events? I know that even in science people have questions upon the relationship of the conscious experience towards reality. What if to all in the existence could be deeper levels?


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Re: The eye of God aka the One-Above-All or are we the One-Above-All? [Re: Hattivattitatti]
    #22225871 - 09/12/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The world is mind and the mind is infinite creative magic. Do you do it or does it do you? Both :awesomenod:





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