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Can you order cacti online?
    #22205519 - 09/08/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've been thinking about growing some cacti. I wanna find a place to get some peyote pups (totally legal here) and graft them onto that one that's hard to spell, pereskopsis (?). Even growing some san pedro would be dope. I bet they need a lot of sun though. I'm really into the idea of grafting though I think that would be awesome.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22205523 - 09/08/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, you can.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: koraks]
    #22205527 - 09/08/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

See I mean I knew that. But I was just thinking that it must kill them. Like how do they stay alive on their travels? I guess that's my real question, i already knew you could order online. You can order anything online. ANYTHING!


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman] * 2
    #22205533 - 09/08/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cacti are tough organisms. As long as they are kept frost free and packaged well, they'll easily survive a couple of days in the mail.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: koraks]
    #22205536 - 09/08/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's pretty cool man. I guess that makes sense. Now I just gotta find a place to buy peyote pups. Any canadians who have a link on this feel free to send me a PM. Since this is legal here I don't think I'm breaking any rules, but if I am feel free to delete this post.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: koraks]
    #22205539 - 09/08/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

days? I heard a story of some guy keeping a san pedro cutting in a box in his closet(no sun, no soil, nothing) for a year. The cutting even started growing upwards towards a small crack of light. It was still green after that long.

Cacti are some tough plants.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: Achillita]
    #22205543 - 09/08/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm surprised more people don't get into growing them up here. Peyote's legal so like, why not. If you get into grafting too you can get a pretty good amount of peyote in a reasonable amount of time.

Can you get high just eating san pedro cacti? Or do you need to make it into tea? some guy told me you just make chips out of it and bake it in the oven for a bit and eat em.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22205547 - 09/08/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That's pretty cool man. I guess that makes sense. Now I just gotta find a place to buy peyote pups. Any canadians who have a link on this feel free to send me a PM. Since this is legal here I don't think I'm breaking any rules, but if I am feel free to delete this post.




Google Canada + peyote. The same guy in Ontario has been the main guy for years he should come up first in searches. I would do it for you but next you'll want me to wipe your ass.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22205548 - 09/08/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

haha thanks for the advice man. Good vibes.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22205554 - 09/08/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That's pretty cool man. I guess that makes sense. Now I just gotta find a place to buy peyote pups. Any canadians who have a link on this feel free to send me a PM. Since this is legal here I don't think I'm breaking any rules, but if I am feel free to delete this post.




Google Canada + peyote. The same guy in Ontario has been the main guy for years he should come up first in searches. I would do it for you but next you'll want me to wipe your ass.




Dude I think I found him. Do you have any experience with this? Can you take one plant and graft it so that it multiplies? Like look at this picture for instance:



Could I take each of those individual cactus looking things and graft them to a pereskiopsis and have it multiply? If i could do that I could reach exponential growth!


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22205575 - 09/08/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like i have a lot of research to do! This is exciting!


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22205600 - 09/08/15 02:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:greenthumb:

Welcome to your new addiction to cacti :wink: it is glorious. Grafting is the way to go also, though its easy to end up with a lot of everything.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22205626 - 09/08/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Keep an eye on the sponsers they have cacti, I'm pretty sure you can get them easily.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22205897 - 09/08/15 06:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That's pretty cool man. I guess that makes sense. Now I just gotta find a place to buy peyote pups. Any canadians who have a link on this feel free to send me a PM. Since this is legal here I don't think I'm breaking any rules, but if I am feel free to delete this post.




Google Canada + peyote. The same guy in Ontario has been the main guy for years he should come up first in searches. I would do it for you but next you'll want me to wipe your ass.




Dude I think I found him. Do you have any experience with this? Can you take one plant and graft it so that it multiplies? Like look at this picture for instance:



Could I take each of those individual cactus looking things and graft them to a pereskiopsis and have it multiply? If i could do that I could reach exponential growth!



Yes. You can even flat graft a single areole (spot where the fluff comes out of) to Pereskiopsis before it makes a pup.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: psi]
    #22205925 - 09/08/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can order them online here too (NL). There is a place somewhere around Amsterdam with a whole greenhouse full of all the cacti you could ever want to trip on. I just ordered a Matucana Peruvian Torch of +35cm, a fat one. It's legal(-ish), as long as you don't put it black on white that they're for consumption.

These guys have such an abundance of cacti that I don't even feel like growing them myself. I can pick one up at any time. And they know their stuff! ... but I agree that it could be a kick to really do it yourself from start to finish :cool: Go for it!

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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22206361 - 09/08/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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See I mean I knew that. But I was just thinking that it must kill them. Like how do they stay alive on their travels? I guess that's my real question, i already knew you could order online. You can order anything online. ANYTHING!




They'll be fine in the mail. I've got three Pedro cuttings that have been in a closet for like 5 months. Not only are they still green, but they tried to root and one of em has an albino pup thats nearly 6 inches long. So not only are they still alive, their still kicking ass.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: Angus McAxeHandle]
    #22209457 - 09/08/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's fuckin awesome bro! I can't wait to get going on it.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22209465 - 09/08/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ebay has some good deals if you can find em and get lucky.

Check the marketplace too, I have been meaning to list some actually.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22209474 - 09/08/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Don't some online dealers sell peyote seeds? I don't know if that's the type of cactus you're talking, lol, but cacti flower and produce seeds as far as I understand, just like most plants.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: JoeP83]
    #22209524 - 09/08/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah seeds are generally going to be the cheapest way to get started. Easy to import too.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: psi]
    #22209529 - 09/08/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd rather spend a little more though and get going faster. it's my understanding that when you graft pups they multiply. Just keep grafting. And have one pereskiopsis that you just keep making cuttings out of. Eventually you'll have more peyote than you can handle.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22209531 - 09/08/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You can buy peyote on ebay as well, starting them from seed is worth it but many places overcharge on the seeds.

For example 10 seeds might be at least 5-10$ on ebay, instead I got 3 small buttons for 22$~ with shipping.

Other places sell the seeds cheaper though, my favorite cacti seller I have found sells 10 loph seeds for like 3-4$
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I'd rather spend a little more though and get going faster. it's my understanding that when you graft pups they multiply. Just keep grafting. And have one pereskiopsis that you just keep making cuttings out of. Eventually you'll have more peyote than you can handle.




Buy a cluster off ebay then, I got mine for 40~ and it is around the size of a baseball and has tons of pups. So I can graft plenty to pere.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22209540 - 09/08/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Man why don't more people grow peyote. I've never done it before but it sounds like a kickass high. Some ppl say it feels like mdma, and that's awesome! I'd rather not be doing chemicals. I think a cluster is the way to go.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22209555 - 09/08/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of people on here do, laws is one reason why many don't.

Even places where it is "legal" it is more of a legal gray area a lot of the time. I have heard tons of people grow them en mass in Europe though.

One thing to consider is over time you get attached to your plants and the sentimental value out ways the drug value.

Of course if you grow enough you will end up with plenty for both, cacti are slow growers though.

Grafting can really speed things up bit even then it takes a fair amount of effort to grow just one "dose" of mescaline.

Cuttings are the way to go if you want to grow for entheogenic purposes. I would recommend a bridgesii and Peruvian torch cutting.

You can clone them very easy and the Bridge should be pretty consistent potency wise.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22209578 - 09/08/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Whats the point of cloning them though? Why not just grow one big one? Does 2 cacti the same size grow faster than one?


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22209836 - 09/08/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well at a certain point you can turn one plant into two and have the first continue growing at a steady rate.

You also can graft tips, I just degrafted a cutting from a member on here and re grafted teh tip. If it takes I will have teh grafted tip and a decent sized cutting from what was one cutting months earlier. Also some plants will focus on one column for awhile, cutting it can induce pupping and more than one column may form to replace it. Of course they can pup on top of having columns already, but removing the older growth will focus energy into the newer stuff.

Say you have a favorite plant, or a known potent variety, instead of growing one big plant or eating some you can just clone it.

Then eventually you will have plenty to sell trade or give away and do whatever with.

That is my logic at least.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22210159 - 09/08/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22210796 - 09/09/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd rather spend a little more though and get going faster. it's my understanding that when you graft pups they multiply. Just keep grafting. And have one pereskiopsis that you just keep making cuttings out of. Eventually you'll have more peyote than you can handle.



Yeah you can go either way. Takes a while to multiply out pereskiopsis to big numbers from a single cutting too though.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: psi]
    #22210831 - 09/09/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Start with 5-10, room em and graft to half and clone the rest. Thank me later.

That is how I started and I have at least 25-50 pere cuttings growing. 3-5 of which either are really big or have 2-3+ stocks growing on them.

It took me awhile of cloning but soon I will have enough to graft a ton, I have already attempted a ton but many fail and then I let the plants recover to clone more.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22211498 - 09/09/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Whats the point of cloning them though? Why not just grow one big one? Does 2 cacti the same size grow faster than one?




You can produce exponential growth with cloning. It also allows you to take the genetics of a particularly potent plant and use them to make more potent plants.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: healing]
    #22215026 - 09/10/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How do u guys like the high?


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22215087 - 09/10/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Up with hope, DOOWWN with dope!


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22215110 - 09/10/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's fine and all, but hows the high?


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22215116 - 09/10/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

From what, cactus?


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22215124 - 09/10/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah dude! :laugh:


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22215126 - 09/10/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh.  It's a bit cactussy.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22215131 - 09/10/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lol smartass. Does it hurt going in when u plug it?


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: mollymadman]
    #22215171 - 09/10/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not once you get used to it.  Nobody taught me you arent supposed to insert it head first, like most things you shove up your butt.  Inserting it base first keeps the spines from "fighting" the insertion.  That's a pro tip.


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22215178 - 09/10/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl2:


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Re: Can you order cacti online? [Re: Amanita86]
    #22215179 - 09/10/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Amanita86 said:
Not once you get used to it.  Nobody taught me you arent supposed to insert it head first, like most things you shove up your butt.  Inserting it base first keeps the spines from "fighting" the insertion.  That's a pro tip.




Lol taking it out must be a mess.


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