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Peyote Road
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16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life 2
#22204750 - 09/07/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So on Saturday I trip on 5.5 grams of homegrownm magic psilocybin mushroom and they splinter my ego. Boomers.
Today I decide to trip aminitas. I eat 16 gram of washington cap near some stagnant water. I watch the frogs, birds, sqirrels, dragonflies, fish, tadpoles, bugs, spiders. Oh so much life just because of a little stagnant water. I feel one with all life.
The mushroom hits me. Suddenly my little swamp becomes inundated with a divine presence. The Holy Spirit. I feel like I used to feel when I was just a youngster. The 31 year old man in me is slowly dying. Being replaced by an innocent young child who feels he is waking up from a deep slumber only to find his house in shambles. I pray to mother Mary and Archangel Micheal. In a vision, I am given the spiritual meaning behind Christmas and the legend of Santa Clause.
Santi Clause leaves presents under the Christmas tree to represent the gifts God leaves under our "tree" (which is the energic flow of lifeforce from the creator to our physical manifestation). We use pine trees for christmas trees because aminita muscaria grows under pine tree, so god leaves his gifts for us under a physical tree. Santi claus lives in the North Pole because these gifts flow downward from our higher self, which is the northern most point on our body, if our body were a map, that is. Legend has it that Santi clause makes a list and checks it twice, if you are nice he gives you gifts if you are nauty he gives you coal. This is because when we are out of alignment with our higher self and the Creator, what happens is that instead of a gift of grace, we recieve a hard dark place in our heart. This is represented by coal.
I smoke some hash and suddenly am transported into the being of the Creator. I am more conscious of the infinitude and divinity of God at this moment than ever before and it is absolutely astonishing.
Aminiits muscaria is truly the King of all entheogens. The level of clarity and wholeness I experienced on this trip simply cannot be matched by any of the traditional psychedelics. They split your ego up into pieces and operate at a lower level energetically. Oh how I with you guys would learn the art of aminita tripping. it is a much more difficult, yet also more rewarding art than psilocybin tripping.
Psilocybin is the fruit of the tree of knowledge, aminita muscaria is the fruit of the tree of life. Pislocybin can give you knowledge and understanding of nearly all spiritual mysteries man can conceive of but it cannot give you eternal life. Aminita muscaria can.
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
Edited by Peyote Road (09/07/15 10:07 PM)
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Peyote Road]
#22206791 - 09/08/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like you had a nice time. But I'm gonna draw the line here with all the "aminita" bullshit. It's Amanita Muscaria. Try not to disrespect the binomial nomenclature of anything. Without it we are pretty much clueless in the wild.
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Beel-Zebub]
#22207400 - 09/08/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I smoke some hash and suddenly am transported into the being of the Creator. I am more conscious of the infinitude and divinity of God at this moment than ever before and it is absolutely astonishing.
Aminiits muscaria is truly the King of all entheogens. The level of clarity and wholeness I experienced on this trip simply cannot be matched by any of the traditional psychedelics.
Sounds like Amanita to me (when I drank my pee). 
I dunno about them bestowing eternal life tho... care to elaborate?
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: flickedbic]
#22208041 - 09/08/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds intriguing... I wonder if it's worth the effort to try them. They grow practically everywhere near me. I wish psilocybin mushrooms would too...
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Peyote Road]
#22208407 - 09/08/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said:Pislocybin can give you knowledge and understanding of nearly all spiritual mysteries man can conceive of but it cannot give you eternal life. Aminita muscaria can.
Care to elaborate?
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: drr]
#22208964 - 09/08/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, I will elaborate. First of all, if you are interested in the true potential of Amanita you should look up Austalian crop circle researcher John Scott. His mistook them for an australian edible mushroom and ate a large enough dose to cause a three day NDE.
Second, I will point out that Gordon Wasson wrote a book entitled divine mushroom of immortality theorizing Amanita was the ancient Soma, or at least the main ingredient. And there is also the Ambrosia society who believe something like this also.
I say this simply for credibility's sake because I am well aware that if I go around claiming that a mushroom can bestow eternal life, I am going to be looked at as though I am crazy, even on the shroomery. So I point to those who have gone before me to show that this is not a new claim, nor is it my idea.
So how can it give us eternal life? Amanita has the power to break down the walls in our mind that separate us from the infinite and eternal being of the Creator. We are all naturally eternal spirits but we have become lost in the physical and grown to identify with a temporary body-mind that appears to move through time. This is a great death, because the way reality works you essentially become anything you identify as. So if you identify as a temporary finite human being who is subject to death and limitation, then that is exactly what you will experience. However, if you can break through the mental prison that currently envelops nearly all mankind, as the great mystics have done in the past, you can realize your eternal nature.
This is the cornerstone that the builders rejected which is spoken about in the Bible. It is also the rock of Christ on which Jesus built his church. If you build on this rock, by allowing the Holy Spirit to live in you and work through you, then your building will endure. If however, you build on the shifting sands of the human mind, then your building will be dashed to pieces by the forces of the Creator. It is only through working with God that we can make something that endures.
Amanita can bring us to this rock. It can do more than that, it can destroy within us those tendencies that keep making us want to stray from this rock. It is absolutely incredible.
I never thought I could discover a greater gift from nature than psilocybin, cannabis, mescaline, etc but I now believe that Amanita is more powerful than these. Not to knock psilocybin though, imo Amanita is Aplha and psilocybin Omega. They work best in conjunction with one another. I did eat 5.5 grams of psilocybin 2 days before my aminita trip, which helped purify and align me enough so that I was able to travel as far a I did. The thing about Amanita is that it contains the fire of God. This fire burns away all our impurities and makes us fit vessels for the Holy Spirit and divine life. However, it is also experienced as hell fire to the unrepentent. My experience was mostly heavenly because I have done a lot work to purify my mind, pray daily, study scripture, etc. Still, parts of my trip were hellish as I encountered places where impurities and darkness remained in me. I cant wait to try an even higher dose of Amanita, but I know I have a lot of purification work to do first otherwise its going to be a hellish experience. Actually during much of this trip, I felt I was in Purgatory but one of the higher purgatories where one knows they are saved.
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Peyote Road]
#22210148 - 09/08/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Leaving all of the religious stuff aside for a moment, I just want to hear you describe what amanita actually feels like, and what you see in the way of visuals, to start. I've never taken it, but have done psilocybin many times. If you're so certain that I should want to try amanita, the vague pseudo-religious metaphorical descriptions aren't going to win me over, because I am not religious, and to be honest I think you are full of shit, with all due respect.
You can realize your eternal nature all day, but you're still going to die.
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: drr]
#22210583 - 09/09/15 02:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What do you mean by die? yes, energy transformations will still carry on. The body you inhabit will eventually no longer be needed and will be swallowed up by time, even the more subtle layers of your gross nature will meet the same fate. But there is something in you which witnessess all this. Something which is beyond birth and death. If you learn to abide therein, you cannot die. This is what various religions have taught for thousands of years, going all the way back to ancient egypt as well as ancient India. Still other cultures like the native americans, came to a similar conclusion with their belief in the Wakan Tanka, or Great Spirit.
Anyway, I am not so sure you should try Amanita if you are not religious and think I am full of shit. I don't think you should have to belong to a specific religion to use it, but if you are not spiritual and are not going to be using for spiritual purposes, I don't see much of a point in using it. Many of the effects are that of purification and therefore tend to experienced as unpleasant, especially the more impure you are. It is the spiritual/religeous aspect that makes the mushroom so interesting. I wouldn't consider it all that enjoyable as a purely recreational drug.
Gordon Wasson (same dude who discovered psilocybin mushrooms), who like me believed it was the key to immortality read an account that described it as a "tedious intoxication". That is exactly what its like for me. Its like, it feels exhausting to be high on it for a while. Like you have to work so hard, even harder than you do on LSD or mescaline.
The more physical effects consist of a heavy narcotic feeling and feeling of lightness and heavy drunkeness but with great clarity co-existing with the confusion. This is the washington caps, the European are speedy and lack the alcohol like effect. Things may appear to change size Alice and Wonderland esq. Time begins to compress and collapse in on itself, opposite to how it expands with psilocybin. Senses become enhanced but the mind's ability to think and interpret what it senses becomes impaired. One may feel dissociated or disconnected from one's usual mental noise or inner monologue and instead feel as though one is simply floating through a soup of raw energy. Classic death rebirth, NDE, out of body, extra sensory, prophetic and/or acquisition of magical powers are all possible at higher doses. Certain native american shaman were so powerful whilst under the influence of this mushroom they could reportedly cause wounds to heal and broken limbs to reassemble themselves with their minds. This may sound far fetched but anyone truly experienced with Amanita will believe this is possible.
You become filled with a powerful spiritual energy (or err I guess just energy for you non religious) which begins to threaten to consume you altogeter and can result in either ecstasy or hell depending on how you respond to it. Visions of a spiritual nature are possible. I have seen angels, a divine kingdom made of light, Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary and Santa Clause. But mostly, there are not many visial effects, nothing like psilocybin. Your vision might become wavy, or different in some way. you might see lights or colors. But dont expect to be entertained by the visuals.
So basically, it feels like a narcotic with strange trippy effects. You can get feeling of peace and ecstasy but it does not consistently provide those effects.
If you are looking for euphoria and visuals, go with psilocybin. THe real interesting effects of Amanita are the spiritual effects. I don't even know how to describe the spiritual effects without using religious terms. How do I describe the sense of Purgation to someone who does not believe in Purgatory? How do I describe the sense of the infinitude and divinity of the Creator to someone who does not believe in a creator?
In short, it could provide some fun as a recreational drug but to get the most out of it, one must work with it as a spiritual tool in my opinion. A bad trip on Amanita has the potential to be many times worse than a bad trip on psilocybin or LSd. Honestly, LSD is like a child's toy compared with Amanita.
Amanita gives one the pontential to wipe one's brain clean and start over building reality from the ground up.
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
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Re: 16 gram amanita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: drr]
#22351478 - 10/08/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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drr said: Leaving all of the religious stuff aside for a moment, I just want to hear you describe what amanita actually feels like, and what you see in the way of visuals, to start. I've never taken it, but have done psilocybin many times. If you're so certain that I should want to try amanita, the vague pseudo-religious metaphorical descriptions aren't going to win me over, because I am not religious, and to be honest I think you are full of shit, with all due respect.
You can realize your eternal nature all day, but you're still going to die.
I'm not wanting anything to do with the whole religious thing either. I'm in alignment with the idea of the process being spiritual in nature and having some spiritual protection when using Amanita or psilocybin mushroom.
Visuals become vivid, defined, everything I looked at become very distinct, has it's own energy and when I got into my girlfriends space I picked up on her energy and almost got pulled into her energy with me not wanting to go into it. Aura's on everything, Seemed like my hearing intensified, smells became more aromatic, it was like conversating telepathically. Dreams were hard to keep apart from reality, The most prominent sensation from the whole experience was this spring of Joy or a Knowingness that all is ok. And I would just start smiling..........
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Re: 16 gram amanita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Fritzzthecat22]
#22351875 - 10/08/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I apologize for the religious stuff, I have just read a lot on religion and tend to describe my experiences with that terminology. If you are in alignment with the idea of the process being spiritual in nature, then I feel like we are on the same page even if we use different words to speak about our experiences.
Part of the reason I like the religious terminology I think is because I am not at all gifted when it comes to describing experiences of this nature. If you read books by Timothy Leary for instance, I feel like he does such an amazing job describing the psychedelic experience in human language. I can't do that well, so I prefer to fall back on religious terms which can't be clearly defined, thus leaving a lot of room for interpretation. I simply don't know how else to articulate these ineffable experiences.
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
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Re: 16 gram amanita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Peyote Road]
#22354424 - 10/09/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you did a good job PR.

Pick out the Amanita at 4:00.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Peyote Road]
#22355231 - 10/09/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Plus 5 shrooms for the high (no pun intended) quality of this trip report. Nicely done! A worthwhile read, for sure. 
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Nature Boy]
#22356373 - 10/09/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Has anyone ever tried Amanita from the New Mexico area? I've never tried Amanita before but I'm thinking about collecting some next year (already have an area to collect them from) when I trek out west to visit a friend.
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Peyote Road]
#22356424 - 10/09/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sounds interesting. Im not a fan of shrooms, but Id be willing to try amanita but I wont drink piss.
A friend of mine ground a bunch into powder but i threw it away. I KNOW it would be a hellish experience for me, being as negative and cynical as i am.
I do believe in God however, and do my best to treat people in real life well.
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Wotko]
#22356476 - 10/09/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wotko said: Has anyone ever tried Amanita from the New Mexico area? I've never tried Amanita before but I'm thinking about collecting some next year (already have an area to collect them from) when I trek out west to visit a friend.
I have, they were similar to the Washington variety but weaker although that was probably just the specific ones I had. I would never assume all aminita in New Mexico are weak.
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Re: 16 gram amanita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Peyote Road]
#22358247 - 10/10/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said: I apologize for the religious stuff, I have just read a lot on religion and tend to describe my experiences with that terminology. If you are in alignment with the idea of the process being spiritual in nature, then I feel like we are on the same page even if we use different words to speak about our experiences.
Part of the reason I like the religious terminology I think is because I am not at all gifted when it comes to describing experiences of this nature. If you read books by Timothy Leary for instance, I feel like he does such an amazing job describing the psychedelic experience in human language. I can't do that well, so I prefer to fall back on religious terms which can't be clearly defined, thus leaving a lot of room for interpretation. I simply don't know how else to articulate these ineffable experiences.
I'm not against religion as a matter of fact it helps so many people that there has to be SOMETHING to it. I simply don't believe the only way to God is through Jesus, and the whole judgement thing is unreal. Thanks for sharing yourself with everyone I'll keep reading your posts. Going to the Mycology show in Bellevue today. Have a good one all!
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Re: 16 gram aminita trip (plus weed and hash) one of the most profound exp. of my life [Re: Peyote Road]
#22703925 - 12/27/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Gordon Wasson (same dude who discovered psilocybin mushrooms)'-not true,not to be a smarty-pants but for those who are curious/very interested in the 'history',the history of mushrooms go back to prehistoric times,here are some quick links i found that post some consolidated info i didnt want to look all over for that i know of.. https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_timeline.php ; and https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_history.shtml ....please note in the 1st link ;the dates and people that collected,sought out or even accidentaly(as im sure there are more accidents/unintentional ingestion's etc.)one such example https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=93696 well before Gordon Wasson (whom many think was the 1st white to use mushrooms( this isn't true)...as far as religion look into the book..'mushroom and the cross'written by a guy who decipherd one of the dead sea scrolls and the whole thing behind them/that.. and mushroom images in early 'illuminated manuscripts' some interesting bibles when they were hand written and images show mushrooms in place of the tree in eden ,and other bible images ,theres nore but i will stop there,sorry just wanted to share to any1 as curious as me about mushrooms..
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