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Mrcloudy
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Ganoderma tsugae on maple.
#22204380 - 09/07/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good evidence that Ganoderma are not strict to their hosts. G.tsugae is most common on hemlock but has been reported from birch and rarely maple and oak before. This is my first time finding one on maple in person.
I think that Ganoderma switching hosts is part of what has caused confusion in its taxonomy, people put more weight on host species instead of morphology and ignored sometimes significant morphological details because they seemed too variable. That being said Ganoderma does have a highly variable morphology, but things like context color, and spore size and ornamentation seem to be quite stable.
This specimen is unfortunately rather old and has mold growing on the inside, I will try taking a clean sample and sending it for sequencing.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Re: Ganoderma tsugae on maple. [Re: Mrcloudy]
#22204658 - 09/07/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aren't you sequencing the Ganoderma species in reference to their substrate? I live in north georgia and have been seeing quite a few Ganoderma sp lately... Is there any in north georgia your still looking for?
Let me know, maybe I can help. I believe what im seeing most of is lucidum, because it has a stem... Reishi doesn't have a stem correct? Is this how one can tell the difference? I'm no good at polypores yet, but need t start somewhere... I know of four I can get immediate access to,,, dunno if u need anymore or not.
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Re: Ganoderma tsugae on maple. [Re: confuzzed]
#22204729 - 09/07/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am sending some of the more interesting finds for sequencing.
G.lucidum does not occur in North America, at least not natively.
G.curtisii is most likely what you are finding, G.meredithae if on pine, though I don't think there is any difference.
G.sessile is the one that grows without a stem. Reishi can refer to any of the red Ganoderma. Whether it has a stem or not, traditionally the name refers to a Ganoderma which grows in mainland China and in Japan called G.lingzhi. There are some interesting Ganoderma in Georgia, so if you post photos I can tell you what you may have.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Re: Ganoderma tsugae on maple. [Re: Mrcloudy]
#22204791 - 09/07/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool pics and info Mrcloudy
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Re: Ganoderma tsugae on maple. [Re: MagicDave]
#22219277 - 09/10/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My apologies, it takes me some time to get back around to things. I have covered so much ground this year that its hard to get back out, but the time with nature is always worth it 
Here's a few pictures I was able to get this week. There first two species I am not sure are Ganoderma. However, the second two I am sure are, just don't know the species.
This is what I have for now. I do know where there are several more as well. They just keep popping up.
Unknown #1:

Unknown #2



Now to the Ganoderma. If able to distinguish which species, I would greatly appreciate what distinguishing factors led you to your decisions 
Ganoderma #1



Ganoderma #2


I do need to admit that I have spent much of my time studying other species than these, so if there are some easy morphological traits that I missed, please forgive me. I believe at this site all the Ganoderma "known to me" are the same species, seems like they're both on oak, but the trees are dead, and I'm mediocre with bark dendrology 
Appreciate all the help
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Re: Ganoderma tsugae on maple. [Re: confuzzed]
#22220786 - 09/11/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i want to say that Ganoderma 1 is on a specimen in the red oak family, but it's hard to tell from just a pic of a long dead tree.
any more bark pics of either tree from when you snapped these?
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Mrcloudy
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Re: Ganoderma tsugae on maple. [Re: relic]
#22222495 - 09/11/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ganoderma 1 is almost certainly G.curtisii, though the pileus is rather deformed, it has a well formed stipe. The second one is likely to be G.sessile, if you have a microscope you can compare the spores.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Mrcloudy
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Re: Ganoderma tsugae on maple. [Re: Mrcloudy]
#22222517 - 09/11/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh right, your non Ganoderma...
The first one is Phaeolus schweinitzii The second is reminiscent of Abortiporus.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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Re: Ganoderma tsugae on maple. [Re: Mrcloudy]
#22225198 - 09/12/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No microscope as of yet 
But I went back out today and found several had been picked at one of my other spots . I only got one more picture of a rather old specimen, I will post if I find time to resize and all that. It just takes me so much time to do so as I'm out of practice.
I also went back to the same spots as yesterday to pick some Cauliflower mushroom and some oysters I saw.
Yea,,, the two I believe to be Ganoderma are both on such decayed trees all I can say is Im pretty sure they're Quercus (Oak).
Species one grew from the ground amongst many trees, and species 2 is attached to the roots of a living Chinkapin Oak? I am unfamiliar with this species since I just moved down here and it is not common in ohio, could have been a chestnut oak 
I should have a couple more pics coming, but its my first p weilii season here so it may take me some time to get back to it, as I would like to at least find and confirm this "smell" that is so prominent with p weilii.
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