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Anonymous #1

need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse
    #22204017 - 09/07/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have been living with my godsisters family for almost a year. One of the 2 girls has displayed odd mature behaviour, I've had a bad feeling that her father is sexually abusing her. She has started to mark her dolls in a disturbing way just like i did when i was being abused. He doesn't let anyone touch his laptop, not even his wife. I'm planning to go through it when he's gone, but i know if i find anything illegal i should call the cops immediately. I also want to talk to her and find out so im trying to figure out what to do first, i dont want the father to get suspicious and hush them like my father did. If any on has any good advice on how to go about this please let me know.


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Anonymous #2

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22205632 - 09/08/15 03:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How old is the girl, how is she marking her dolls, what is the behavior she's showing? I would never advise turning a blind eye to it and acting like it's not a possibility, but it's also a possibility you are just overreacting or seeing signs because you want to see them. Kids do a lot of weird shit. My son does weird shit, he's never been abused. Especially with the internet and TV how it is today, it's not really far fetched to say she could've just seen the shit on a computer or TV and is repeating what she saw.

There could also be other reasons he doesn't want someone to touch his laptop. Maybe he has some kinda weird porn fetish (I have one, and I wouldn't let people mess with my computer just in case, I didn't even tell my wife about it until we'd been married for 10 years). Maybe he doesn't want anyone, including his wife to see the emails/pics of his mistress(es). Hell maybe he just has an embarrassing amount of (legal) porn on his computer..

You were abused, so it's entirely possibly that is what is driving you to see this pattern leading to this conclusion, when there are numerous other possibilities.

How to move forward, is going to depend on the answer to the first few questions. I'm not sure I'd advise snooping through his computer though. Ideally, you would determine if there was any credence to your theory and then report it to the police and let them do the searching. People do get convicted all the time because someone else found stuff on their computer, but it also opens them up to being able to worm free of the charges, depending on what is on the computer, unless the computer was seized as part of the investigation and the cops were the ones who found it. If you go digging through it and find a bunch of random pedo porn, an argument could be made that you planted it. Dunno the likeliness of that working, but it is a possibility. Right circumstances and the right lawyer would have a good chance of pulling it off.


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Anonymous #3

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22205670 - 09/08/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's really good advice :whathesaid:

I'd probably talk to the daughter, and let her know that she can trust you. But jumping to conclusions that don't really have any basis can hurt everybody in the family.

But it's possible, so I'd keep an eye out and talk to the daughter.


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Anonymous #4

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #22205713 - 09/08/15 04:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would recommend against talking to the child directly.

If there is indeed abuse going on, and it is of a sexual nature, i would expect the purp has already taken steps to keep the child from
speaking out. The protectiveness of the laptop certainly suggests the person knows what he is doing, and is aware that exposure has consequences.

Talk to a health professional, preferably a mental health professional, but failing that even your home physician could help
or put you in touch with someone who can tell you what specific things to look for and how to talk to the child.

If at all possible talk to the family physician who treats the child.
I think this person is in the best position to find out if anything is wrong and to know what to do about it.
I also think that any accusations that need to be made would be most credible and actionable if they were coming from this person.

I don't want to be overly dramatic about this, but i do feel obligated to point out the worst case scenario here:
You ask directly, the child answers yes, the father finds out and decides to erase the evidence.


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Anonymous #1

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22205736 - 09/08/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

She is 7, she wrote daddy on the dolls chests and marked the breasts and vagina with marker, she wrote bad on the stomach. She also put dark makeup and cuts on the thighs of another one. Both of their daughters don't see doctors, are homeschooled and have very little exposure to internet and t.v. i was very concerned about that scenario, my father had hushed all of us and convinced us not to talk so he got away with it. He also even convinced me that my memories were false and they never happened. I want to talk to her but I dont want him to find out. The whole family just seems to be hiding something, and the wife seems very controlled. I always thought i was just being paranoid by the markings on the dolls and her off, super a.d.h.d, always crying and screaming behavior is makingme believe that I need to find out for sure.


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Anonymous #5

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22205748 - 09/08/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd snoop. you never know nowadays :makesmecry:


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Anonymous #2

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22205758 - 09/08/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Talk to her but mask your intent behind seemingly innocent questions. For example the dolls: "I like your dolls, that's neat. Where'd you get the idea?"

Ask her tell you what's going on without her knowing you're asking what's going on.


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Anonymous #4

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22209446 - 09/08/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The isolation aspect i find particularly alarming.

I recommend you take pictures of the dolls and record any conversation you have with the child.

Then talk to child protective services or a mental health professional.
A professional opinion is typically held in higher regard then eye witness testimony, and i feel cops are more likely to act if any accusations come from such a professional.


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Anonymous #6

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22210902 - 09/09/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Call child protective services, tell them about it, and ask for advice. Don't feel guilty about it at all. Something is clearly wrong. If those kids went to a doctor, you can bet the doctor would make the call. Those sound like clear signs of abuse.

Here's a list of child abuse numbers by state:

http://www.nccafv.org/child_abuse_reporting_numbers_co.htm


Call and ask for advice if that's all you're comfortable with. Please do something though.


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Anonymous #7

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22210912 - 09/09/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

make the little girls comfortable with you an start asking questions about what she likes doing, then get to the point what does she do with the dad even if he has tolled you not to tell anybody;....

be nice gentle don't let your anger take over you kids can tell with your voice changing man just be all cool for fucks sake get answers!!

ask does she feel weird when shes with him and what do you do or play ?


check the fucking laptop now ¬!!!!

and if the fucking pervert cunt is doing what your suspecting beat the living shit out of him!!!!

then call the cops and say you caught him doing something an he has stuff on his laptop if he has !!!!!


Me personally i would kill the cunt if he has without anybody Knowing!!!!


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Anonymous #7

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22210917 - 09/09/15 06:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do what the fuck i tolled you !


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Anonymous #7

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22210923 - 09/09/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

in the uk did you know a lot of pedophiles, perverts , child molesters an so on...


get let off with whatever they do all the punishment is there on the sex offenders list and has to check in with the police everyday..i think.

Hurt Him Bad if he is doing what you suspect...


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Anonymous #8

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22212183 - 09/09/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Vigilantism is NOT the answer, beating or killing someone is not going to help the child or the situation - OP you have gotten some very good reasonable advice that should help you decide what course of action to take. I was molested by my father as a child - he did and still does the whole "you have false memories" shtick. I was molested by a priest and deacon too and told an elder woman in the church - the only thing that came of that was - "We asked him and he said he didn't do it." End of story. So definitely put more work into this - have a professional talk to the girl or whatever.


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Anonymous #2

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22212834 - 09/09/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Unless it is literally the ONLY option and you're pretty damn sure what's going on, I wouldn't call the cops on just suspecting it. Once you pull that trigger, it can't be undone. These days even being accused of that shit destroys your life. No one ever believes they didn't actually do it, they just think he got away it somehow.

You can ruin someone's life by falsely reporting it. I dunno about you, but if I pulled the trigger and he was innocent, I'd feel pretty bad. Not to mention you're basically never going to be able to talk to him again. Something to think about before you go rushing into things blindly.


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Anonymous #4

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22213587 - 09/09/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Children of that age love their parents, in spite of anything.
That's part of what makes it so traumatic; being betrayed by people your biochemistry won't allow you to stop loving.

Disposing of the father would no doubt further traumatise the child.
Anything short of that will likely lead to him taking his anger out on
his family. Paralysis might work, but that would almost certainly cost you a prison sentence.

i agree with #6, except i think you should document what you can, while you can. once you have acted it might be wise to cease any information gathering activities.

And again i would encourage you to go trough a mental health professional or as #6 suggested child protective services.

Not only will they have a much easier time getting cops to take action, as they have their reputation behind them which lends them credibility and takes part of the responsibility away from the cops,
but you will also have a much easier time talking to a health professional who can understand what you are describing so much better then any cop ever could.

The doctor can understand you, and the cops can take the doctors word for it.
It is a much better situation then trying to get cops to understand or take your word for anything.


Edited by Anonymous (09/09/15 06:06 PM)


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Anonymous #2

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22213655 - 09/09/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone keeps talking about the doctor or mental health professional. Just how are they supposed to get the kid to them? It's not their kid. You can't just grab them and take them to a doctor because you suspect something. It's their godsister's kid (or maybe just their godsister I'm not really clear on that) Point is, it's not even a cousin or blood. It might as well just be their friend's daughter or something. Why would they be taking the kid to the doctor or psychiatrist? What possible reason could they give the parents? To do that, you might as well just flat out say you suspect abuse is going on and call the cops or CPS.

Now they are completely free to do this, and if they feel that's the best thing to do, I'm certainly not going to tell them they were wrong to do it. But as I said earlier, once that accusation is reported, there is no going back. They're not gonna be living there much longer and it could even create a situation where the father gets violent (and you probably would be pretty pissed too if you were falsely accused of something like that, and this isn't me saying it's not happening, but you have to look at it from all angles before making a decision).


Edited by Anonymous (09/09/15 06:27 PM)


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Anonymous #1

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22213819 - 09/09/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes trust me i would love to beat the answers out of him, and murder him if that's  the case. But i've seen too many stories of people going to prison even while catching someone doing it for beating them. I am not accusing and calling the cops until I have substantial evidence. My sister is going to bring a linux disk while he's  at work, so we can check his files without the password. If we find anything I am just going to call the police, and then talk to the girls. Of course I want to beat the fuck out of him but I have too much of a hard life to let myself go to prison.  Meanwhile I am observing everyone's behavior and am going to see if i can discreetly gather more evidence.

If i talk to the girl, and then find something out, and call the cops, will they check his laptop based off word? I am trying to find answers as soon as i possibly can in the smartest way so this guy can go down if he is doing what i highly suspect. And trust me, i would not ruin someones life without solid evidence, i have suspected for a while, but i thought it was just my ptsd until i saw the dolls.


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Anonymous #1

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22213836 - 09/09/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If we check the laptop with the linux disc it removes the possibility of us planting the evidence, so I would just immediatley call the cops. I've got to do it while he's at work, and while my mother can take them out somewhere for a while. Any day now.


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Anonymous #2

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22213882 - 09/09/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If the cops get reason to believe the accusations are in fact right, then yes. They probably won't make a move until they have a warrant to search the house and confiscate his computer. If they just show up and tell him what he's accused of without the warrant, it means he can just delete everything before they come back with the warrant. So they're not going to move until they have enough for a warrant.

What that might be I don't know. The other posters are correct in stating that the police would be far more likely to take it serious if it came from a health professional. But based on everything I know about the situation, I really don't see how that would be feasible. Could be I'm not fully understanding the situation, but I'm guessing you taking them to the doctor would be highly unusual and would throw up red flags. I mean I guess you could offer to take them for the day so the parents can have some time alone or something, but if you do, and take them to a doctor, the parents are going to find out eventually. I'm also not sure if you even can take them to a doctor without their parents consent. If you do, the doctor absolutely wouldn't be able to tell you anything, as you're not the legal guardian nor do you have express permission from one.

People have been arrested, and successfully convicted plenty of times in the past because someone was using their computer or phone and found illegal shit. However I can't recall a single case where the device wasn't handed to the accuser willingly by the perp. I don't know what all kinda loopholes going behind his back may entail. That would be a question for Enlil. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15908891/page/4 You can post anonymously there, and he might be able to give you an idea on what you need before going to the cops or how to go about getting it so that he can actually be convicted. It may take him a couple of days to respond though. He generally seems to let it go for a few days and let a few people ask questions, then come answer them in bulk.

If you decide to ask Enlil, provide as much detail about your situation as possible. It will help build a more clear picture and answers may change depending on certain factors.


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Anonymous #6

Re: need some serious advice regarding possibly sexual abuse [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22217320 - 09/10/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Chances are good the girls will get interviewed if anything legal goes down, and that's one of the first things that would happen if child protective services came. One look at those dolls would raise serious suspicions, and I'd bet big money that other obvious signs of abuse can be teased out of those girls in a short amount of time in an interview. Even without anything on the computer, I suspect that there's enough evidence to get a serious investigation started. Kids show up to school with bruised and they get interviewed, and this is way more telltale than that.

I assume you're going to use a usb linux boot disk to start up the computer and  mount his hard drive so you can check his files without dicking around with his winblows login password. I don't see how that removes the possibility of you planting evidence (I wouldn't worry about this anyway), but it will let you root through his shit. Does your sister know what she's doing with this? It's totally feasible and pretty easy to do. If you find anything, I'd get a copy of the files on the disk too and tell CPS you've found it on his computer and that you made a copy.


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