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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Achillita]
#22205587 - 09/08/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think i get your point.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Hobozen]
#22205616 - 09/08/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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good listen
U.S. Prepares Troops And Puts Pressure On Greece To Block Russian Flights To Syria - Episode 760b
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Achillita]
#22205619 - 09/08/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Militant extremeists take over a country and make life hell for some of it's inhabitants.
Only real difference is that the nazis were heavily organized.
Well, that and probably that the nazis targeted a few select groups, while IS manages to make the territory they control a living hell for just about anybody.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: koraks]
#22207202 - 09/08/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's terrible. Yet 90% of the people I talk to in person have no idea why this is happening (the fighting and refugees). It seem's like people are just in the dark.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22207213 - 09/08/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I thought this shit was a bad idea in 2012... as did anyone else who was in the military.
Most people don't even bother to read the paper and when they do they always manage to say the dumbest shit to the most amount of people.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Hobozen]
#22207260 - 09/08/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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blankk said: "these rights are fine crystal, and when all these people come on and stampede through, what happens to fine crystal when a bunch of bulls come through? you just end up with a lot of broken glass"
what happens when other middle eastern countries go to shit, Europe should just let all those refugees in too? how about africa, might as well pile them in there too? because that seems to be the direction we're headed.
We need to set up, or Europe, meeds to set up borders withour such weak appeals to human rights. These people, and the rebles that everyone seems to love, want Sharia because their culture demands it
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Hobozen]
#22207368 - 09/08/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The golden dawn party has the right idea with the muslim invaders. The invaders should be turned back, forced into the sea with bayonet point to their backs.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#22207386 - 09/08/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: These people, and the rebles that everyone seems to love, want Sharia because their culture demands it
For how many of them is this true? Let's see some data. You seem to know.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: koraks]
#22207417 - 09/08/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who the fuck would actually fight for Syria? People flee because its a hopeless situation for them. It was a shit country and it got even more shit. There's not much to fight for honestly
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Ezuma]
#22207438 - 09/08/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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At the same time, I wouldn't particularly want hordes of refugees storming my country either. I mean its not like the Greeks were doing too well to start with
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Ezuma]
#22207462 - 09/08/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Who the fuck would actually fight for Syria? People flee because its a hopeless situation for them. It was a shit country and it got even more shit. There's not much to fight for honestly
Iran and the Saudi's are fighting for Syria. The Islamic state are proxies of the Sunni and the AlAssad government are backed by the Shia in Iran. Russia is involved in backing syrian government proxies for prestige of appearing to be a superpower for the benefit of Baltic states on their borders, and the Turks have an interest in ousting Assad but retaining the structure of the government to prevent total anarchy like in Iraq when the Bathists were removed by US forces. Everyone in the middle east seems to have some interest in the outcome, each for their own geo-political purposes.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: koraks]
#22207466 - 09/08/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koraks said:
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specialpeopleclub said: These people, and the rebles that everyone seems to love, want Sharia because their culture demands it
For how many of them is this true? Let's see some data. You seem to know.
I shouldnt even give such a statement a response. Just look up polls by Al Jazeera, or anyone. Well over half of Mislems, as the refigies are, want such things. Im not going to do research for you on something so obvious it shouldnt need citing
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: specialpeopleclub] 4
#22207482 - 09/08/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah yes. Why bother going to the lengths of actually debating your position if you can just leave it at 'ah well it's just so obvious'. Thought so. Well, thanks for your contribution.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22207491 - 09/08/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I meant the citizens of the country itself. Outside interests are invested, but as far as a local is concerned, shits bad and not getting better. Its foreign involvement in the first place that made a shit region of the world a living hell. There's plenty of reason for foreign powers to be interested, but Syrian people are doing what any group would do if they were in that situation. If they had a country worth preserving, I'm sure we would see a difference in the response of the locals. You can't possibly believe that somehow a population of several million is simply 'spineless' or cowardly in a way that any other humans would not be.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: koraks]
#22207500 - 09/08/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Syria already had a law code based on Sharia law before this shit went down, I believe. I don't know what percentage supports that but given its a largely Muslim country I wouldn't be surprised if support was pretty widespread honestly though I'd be interested in what the numbers are
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: koraks]
#22207538 - 09/08/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didnt just say that. Just go look at some polls from the Muslem world and tell me what you think. Their culture is not some diversity thing. The Koran says what ot says, and going against it or the accepted Hadiths is life threatening in most of the Muslem world. They arent going to throw off their faith just because they are somewhere else. So, what we have is a massive import of a shotty culture from the billion and a half most retarded, pedophile murderer loving people
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Ezuma]
#22207555 - 09/08/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: I meant the citizens of the country itself. Outside interests are invested, but as far as a local is concerned, shits bad and not getting better. Its foreign involvement in the first place that made a shit region of the world a living hell. There's plenty of reason for foreign powers to be interested, but Syrian people are doing what any group would do if they were in that situation. If they had a country worth preserving, I'm sure we would see a difference in the response of the locals. You can't possibly believe that somehow a population of several million is simply 'spineless' or cowardly in a way that any other humans would not be.
I think the reaction of most people in war zones is to either join sides in the hostilities or flee. It seems about the same in every civil war, US Civil war for example. Most people desire to protect their homes as long as they can and usually support the side they think gives them the best chance even if they never take up arms themselves. But yeah, outside meddling caused the mess and perpetuates it. It looks like its a matter of time until Assad falls. Even Iranian proxies like Hezbollah are changing sides because they figure they want good relations with the winning side after the dust settles. Locals and anyone stupid enough to go there as a foreign fighter are just cannon fodder of the real players who are all foreign national interests.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 2
#22207575 - 09/08/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Well I look at it way diffrent than you. I wouldnt care about putting myself at risk. You see at that point my life as I knew it i already over. But if run and do nothing you know what will happen? Someone elses life will be ruined and many more terrible things. Someone has to fucking fight injustice like what is happening to people there.
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22207578 - 09/08/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well i think they probably see the situation as not worth fighting for, is what i'm saying. Like obviously Americans would fight for america, but that's because they have it fairly good, and there's a lot worth saving and preserving in american culture. I doubt Syrians feel the same way, or have done for a long while
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Re: Invasion of Greek Island of Lesbos by Syrian Refugees [Re: Ezuma]
#22207595 - 09/08/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Well i think they probably see the situation as not worth fighting for, is what i'm saying. Like obviously Americans would fight for america, but that's because they have it fairly good, and there's a lot worth saving and preserving in american culture. I doubt Syrians feel the same way, or have done for a long while
You might be surprised how patriotic people in shitty countries can be. Historically it us usually a group of wild nomads who conquor civilized well mannered city dwellers. I'd think the people who have it good would be more willing to protect what they have, but we see things like Roman boys cutting off their thumb so they can avoid serving in the legion, and cowardly vietnam war protestors staying in college for 10 years to keep their draft deferment. City dwelling lifestyles seem to encourage cowardace in a population rather than the rugged individualism it takes to cowboy up and kick ass.
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