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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Patlal]
    #22203558 - 09/07/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I vote we just go all Spartan style with it; discard those weak bitches that get born. lol Bring abortion to a whole new level. lol






Should we also practice Pederasty like that Spartans?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #22203781 - 09/07/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Eugenics works plain and simple. Look at slavery. If you deny what we did with genetic's in the 1700's is effecting them today you live in a fantasy world.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Mescalean]
    #22203795 - 09/07/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It works with every animal we breed. We are animals, why wouldn't it work on us?

Mate the studs with the goddesses an we'll get something good out of it.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Mescalean]
    #22203990 - 09/07/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Eugenics works plain and simple. Look at slavery. If you deny what we did with genetic's in the 1700's is effecting them today you live in a fantasy world.




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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Mescalean]
    #22204011 - 09/07/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Eugenics works plain and simple. Look at slavery. If you deny what we did with genetic's in the 1700's is effecting them today you live in a fantasy world.




Maybe that's why negroes are so good at physical things today? We bred them for strength and not for thinking ability.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22204050 - 09/07/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Jesus fucking christ.
It seems like some people in here have never spoken with a black person of the same socioeconomic class.

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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22204054 - 09/07/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Eugenics works plain and simple. Look at slavery. If you deny what we did with genetic's in the 1700's is effecting them today you live in a fantasy world.




Maybe that's why negroes are so good at physical things today? We bred them for strength and not for thinking ability.




I don't get where the thinking ability but came from as I have quite a few intelligent, but yes. We bred the strongest with the strongest to make work more efficient.


Why do people get so touchy with genes? Everyones got something up with their gene pool now adays. I got blessed outside wise, inside I have a huge risk of heart attack cancer of various types and stroke. also Alzheimer and various dormant genes for mental illness such as depression and schizophrenia. I just got lucky and none were activated in me. Maybe depression a but and who knows about cancer we'll see. My main thing is is it morally responsible to pass on those shitty genes just because we have an instinct to produce some squishy little copy of us.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Mescalean]
    #22204065 - 09/07/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>We bred the strongest with the strongest to make work more efficient.

Strong back and weak mind = perfect worker. Not saying all blacks are like that, some are smart but that is how they bred them.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22204085 - 09/07/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have nothing against speaking about genes, but people here seem unable to differentiate between what is genetically inherited and conditionally inherited.

Inbreeding will hinder genes; but in slavery in breeding was not common. You could say the Southern slave masters were more often the dumb ones.

Often intelligence is conditional, which is why I mention socioeconomics.

Maybe they are bigger and stronger from how they bred, but there is a strong argument against that as well.
They certainly were no less intelligent. They simply weren't educated.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #22204096 - 09/07/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>Often intelligence is conditional

Intelligence is inherited, the development of it depends on other factors like going to school and studying hard. But you can't make a silk purse out of a cow's ear. Someone without intelligence will be a dullard no matter how long they sit in class.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #22204134 - 09/07/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I have nothing against speaking about genes, but people here seem unable to differentiate between what is genetically inherited and conditionally inherited.

Inbreeding will hinder genes; but in slavery in breeding was not common. You could say the Southern slave masters were more often the dumb ones.

Often intelligence is conditional, which is why I mention socioeconomics.

Maybe they are bigger and stronger from how they bred, but there is a strong argument against that as well.
They certainly were no less intelligent. They simply weren't educated.





Okay see i'm speaking from a purely "physical ability" standpoint, how the body functions health and ability wise. Which imo the whole breeding the strongest with the strongest works but as you said in breeding fucks things up. This happens with MJ plants quite alot in the medical industry though. Very frustrating getting a hermed seed with shit genes that decides to knock up every plant around it. We need to mix more imo. spread the good genes from each group would be ideal, not this "single master race" idea


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Mescalean]
    #22205024 - 09/07/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This thread is one big
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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Patlal]
    #22205026 - 09/07/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A Brave New World


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22205041 - 09/07/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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A Brave New World




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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Patlal]
    #22206116 - 09/08/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It works with every animal we breed. We are animals, why wouldn't it work on us?

Mate the studs with the goddesses an we'll get something good out of it.




What we do with animals is very different becasue with animals we breed siblings and parents. This greatly accelerates changes in phenotypes,


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: koods]
    #22206180 - 09/08/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I found myself contemplating this same thing except with athletes. I have wondered if something was wrong with me for wanting to control that type of thing. Some people should not be allowed to breed with their shit genetics.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Patlal]
    #22206419 - 09/08/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I only read the op so I apologize if this has already been mentioned but older mothers are at a higher risk of carrying babies with genetic disorders such as downs after age 35. Children of older fathers are more likely to have mental illnesses like schizophrenia and autism also.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
    #22206472 - 09/08/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It is one of the fatal flaws of the plan that surprisingly wasn't mentioned before. Which illustrates the overall quality of this thread.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: koraks]
    #22206492 - 09/08/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It was mentioned. You want the mother to be under 25 and the father under about 45.

People are such fools and reject great ideas out of hand, all someone has to do is mention hitler and they are against it. Idiots and morons should not breed, nor people with major genetic flaws. People should need a license to have kids like a license to drive. Either can have major consequences and if society is expected to take care of the kid they should put some rules in place. Adopt if you have to have a brat.


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Re: Moral eugenics. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22206691 - 09/08/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It was mentioned. You want the mother to be under 25 and the father under about 45.

People are such fools and reject great ideas out of hand, all someone has to do is mention hitler and they are against it. Idiots and morons should not breed, nor people with major genetic flaws. People should need a license to have kids like a license to drive. Either can have major consequences and if society is expected to take care of the kid they should put some rules in place. Adopt if you have to have a brat.





i totally agree with this. so much that i fit into the category of a genetic flaw (that is hereditary, passed on to me and something i would pass on) and i don't feel i have a right to breed...

idk if people are just emotionally selfish to procreate with genetic problems, and other problems that will impact they offspring (such as financial or political/local laws)

but in all honesty i'm guessing i costed nearly a million dollars just to be born and to survive, and i'm too logically selfish to take on a cost like that let alone the cost of a healthy child.


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