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Why is this San Pedro so skinny
    #22199531 - 09/06/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hey so I got another San Pedro today except this is a bigger boy. Why is it so skinny? The guy had a lot of them but they don't look so fat like other ones I've had. He said he always grew it in the shade. Could that be it?

I wanted to cut the big one down and replant it so I can have new pups to grow.

Is there a way to grow them so they come out thick?

I hope I didn't get ripped of




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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: smoke dog]
    #22199576 - 09/06/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That looks decent to me :shrug: How much did you pay?


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: smoke dog]
    #22199578 - 09/06/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lack of fertilizer, underwatering, shade? It could be a factor of things, maybe even a genetic trait.


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: Oggy]
    #22199604 - 09/06/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Oggy said:
Lack of fertilizer, underwatering, shade? It could be a factor of things, maybe even a genetic trait.



To me it just doesnt look that skinny, especially for a supposedly shade grown cactus. Adding ferts and giving sun would result in a fat ass cactus though, but I've seen skinnier, more etoliated cacti before.

Check out this one year old seedling I bought, it was quite etoliated and very skinny

It was 12" tall too


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: grownright]
    #22199631 - 09/06/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was probably comparing it to all the pictures online of thicker cactus. But yea I don't think the guy took to much care of them besides re planting new buds.

I got them for 40 bucks. It was pretty much my only source so I got them. I'm planning on cutting them to get new pups. That way in the future from now I'll have a decent garden of these.

Oh man Grownright that one does look pretty skinny lol


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: smoke dog]
    #22199690 - 09/06/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

$40, how tall are they? Seems about right though if they are as tall as I can judge from the picture. It looks to be close to two feet tall? maybe more? I think thats a solid buy.

What zone are you in? Im lucky that I live in the south so my cacti can put on some bulk in one growing season. If you're as lucky as I am, I would cut those up into good sized logs and root them horizontally (log style) You'll have a butt load of cacti growing then :wink:


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: grownright]
    #22199742 - 09/06/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i think its probably because of the container, because pedros roots really grow out sideways quite far and vigorously and probably help to soak up more water

but it looks fine as it is and the tops are fat. i would just keep watching that the bottom doesnt get ugly looking


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: grownright]
    #22199754 - 09/06/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't yet measured the height of them but there pretty big. This is the first time I've ever owned any. I was walking through the local flee market and I saw a tiny one for sale and I was like no way so I got it for 5 bucks. I got excited and wanted more and remember about a dude who had some so I got this one right after.

So I should lay down the cuts horizontal? I saw this on a YouTube video and was wondering why the guy didn't plant it vertically. Huh that's interesting. I'm definitely going to try that

I stay in Central California. The weather is pretty constant here. It usually stays pretty warm.


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: islanduniverse]
    #22199767 - 09/06/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks man I'm probably going to cut the tops and replant them. And use the main ones as a pup generator


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: smoke dog]
    #22199790 - 09/06/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I haven't yet measured the height of them but there pretty big. This is the first time I've ever owned any. I was walking through the local flee market and I saw a tiny one for sale and I was like no way so I got it for 5 bucks. I got excited and wanted more and remember about a dude who had some so I got this one right after.

So I should lay down the cuts horizontal? I saw this on a YouTube video and was wondering why the guy didn't plant it vertically. Huh that's interesting. I'm definitely going to try that

I stay in Central California. The weather is pretty constant here. It usually stays pretty warm.



No prob man, and have fun. You're plants are gonna get big as fuck in California, I'm excited for you man. Laying them horizontally gives them more surface area to root, giving them a head start on rooting, and with a bigger rootball = bigger plant. With that bigger rootball you get a faster absorption of nutrients, so you'll get a lot pups :thumbup: Make sure your logs are at least 6" long btw, make sure to keep the soil dry until the roots form, it takes a while. Try not to pick it up often from the soil, I find it roots faster the less handled


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: grownright]
    #22199834 - 09/06/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's man I appreciate all the help and information. Your getting me excited about the coming months and future years of growing and taking care of these plants. Hopefully when The time is right I'll try them out and have a wonderful trip


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: smoke dog]
    #22199873 - 09/06/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:sun:


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: grownright]
    #22200812 - 09/07/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The same exact plant will reportedly grow with different physical characteristics depending on what part of the world it is grown, so those guys may fatten right up for you depending on where you are and how you treat them, wouldnt worry about it, you def didnt get ripped off.


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: mandrin13]
    #22201473 - 09/07/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i just looked at them again, sober this time, and they look fine


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: mandrin13]
    #22202227 - 09/07/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to get some fertilizer for them and have them more in the sun so they can hopefully grow nice and fat


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: smoke dog]
    #22202454 - 09/07/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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smoke dog said:
I'm going to get some fertilizer for them and have them more in the sun so they can hopefully grow nice and fat



Make sure to get one with a low N value. I use cactus juice by grow more, its ratio 1-7-6


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: grownright]
    #22205597 - 09/08/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It needs water. Surprised no one has said that already.


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22205808 - 09/08/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

look great to me


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22206391 - 09/08/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It needs water. Surprised no one has said that already.



True, I wSnt really thinking about that. My immediate concern would have been to repot it if I didnt want to take cuttings. How could you tell it needs water?


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: grownright]
    #22206827 - 09/08/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I cut them main one into about four 6 inch cuttings today. Hopefully they dry properly so I can plant them in a few weeks when they start rooting


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22213848 - 09/09/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It needs water. Surprised no one has said that already.



:facepalm:
Wow, I completely overlooked how thirsty it looked. I was just looking for etoliation when I came into the post...


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22214266 - 09/09/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So the more water they get the fatter they are?


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: smoke dog]
    #22214383 - 09/09/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well, the ribs get skinny when they want water. The overall diameter is due to one or some of the factors mentioned by others. Low light, ferts, etc...


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Re: Why is this San Pedro so skinny [Re: smoke dog]
    #22214632 - 09/09/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I personally always suggest bioassay of a cactus before deciding whether to grow it out or not. Different clones can vary drastically in their medicinal content (and growing conditions and time of year play a role too).


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