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OfflineEllis Dee
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Should we militarize outer space?
    #22198832 - 09/06/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Space based weapons platforms seem like the ultimate air superiority. Potentially the entire global population would be easily targetable. Of course this would be vulnerable to terrestrial based missile attack so it'll also require a defensive system to protect the offensive capability. Thoughts?


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Ellis Dee] * 2
    #22198963 - 09/06/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We already have, google Star wars plan Ronald Reagan, that was the beginning it's been over 35 years so we have advanced on that technology quite a bit


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Ellis Dee] * 2
    #22199154 - 09/06/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Youd be surprised the technology we have up there. Most of it is not known to the public for reasons unknown.

They have ships that sail the cosmos like ships sail the ocean. And I'm not just talking about the humble telescopes etc.. These are very sophisticated ships driven by little men in blue suits that are capable of using space's magnetic fields the same way a boat uses the winds of the earth to sail the seven seas, to launch into specific coordinates in space at light blazing speeds.

There is also lots that they don't tell u about space, for instance, it is actually possible to breath up there without any form of protection or extra oxygen, however u will burn into a crisp from the sun's unfiltered radiation which is what the suits are mainly for. And also u don't age in space.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: zZZz]
    #22199158 - 09/06/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #22199171 - 09/06/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
We already have, google Star wars plan Ronald Reagan, that was the beginning it's been over 35 years so we have advanced on that technology quite a bit



:whathesaid:

We're pretty much already doing it. There were plans at one time to build a fucking missile silo on the moon, because then you don't need super advanced rocket engines to hit any point on the planet. All you need is a guidance system, a moderate booster and some calculations.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22199191 - 09/06/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone that has the ability to, can't.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22199220 - 09/06/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

All that means is they can't get caught doing it.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22199222 - 09/06/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone that has the ability to, can't.



Treaties only apply to the barbarians we haven't conquored yet. Just ask any indian.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #22199262 - 09/06/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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We already have, google Star wars plan Ronald Reagan, that was the beginning it's been over 35 years so we have advanced on that technology quite a bit





that son of a bitch spent all that money and I still cant force choke
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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22199277 - 09/06/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yep as soon as I found out he screwed me out my AtAt I was pissed :minigun:


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #22199309 - 09/06/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

we ought to start a  rebellion


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22199312 - 09/06/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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All that means is they can't get caught doing it.




If anyone was caught we would have known about it... You can't hide a weapon being blown up if it's in space...... There are 7.125B people on earth... That means at least 1/4 of that figure would have seen something in the night sky explode and probably more explosions since one would have the upper hand launching another weapon into space and having it neutralized by another party.

...But yea. No weapons in space. We would know if there were... Unless the highest people in the G20 have come to an agreement to leave earth a wasteland with a weapon in space and run to another habitable planet. But that is neither here nor there.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22199321 - 09/06/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you are looking for a reliable and ready militia, look into the 3%'ers.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22199385 - 09/06/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes we would've known about it. Do you realize how vast space is, how distant just our moon is? We are only able to monitor the sky at something like 1-2% at any given time. Testing could be done far enough away very few, if any, people would notice, and until they actually use it, we'd never know.

Also, NASA has a habit of concealing things and cutting off video feeds when "UFOs" (which I'm not saying is alien, I mean it in the full technical sense of the word) get involved.

How many times do you need to be shown the government can and has gotten away with concealing things from it's citizens and other governments? It wasn't even until recently that Area 51 was finally acknowledged and there are so many people like you out there who believe things like that could never be covered up, that before that point, everyone who believed in it's existence was considered crazy or a conspiracy theorist.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22199396 - 09/06/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We don't really need any type of space defense IMO

We can just send Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck, Owen Wilson, Steve Buscemi, etc. up there like we did in Armageddon


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Niffla]
    #22199438 - 09/06/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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We don't really need any type of space defense IMO

We can just send Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck, Owen Wilson, Steve Buscemi, etc. up there like we did in Armageddon



The idea is to target terrestrial populations and militaries for geo-political purposes, not to protect Earth from incoming heavenly objects.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22199452 - 09/06/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Niffla said:
We don't really need any type of space defense IMO

We can just send Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck, Owen Wilson, Steve Buscemi, etc. up there like we did in Armageddon



The idea is to target terrestrial populations and militaries for geo-political purposes, not to protect Earth from incoming heavenly objects.




That's what I'm talking about, though. They whooped that asteroid's ass. So I'm confident in their abilities to target terrestrial populations as well.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Niffla]
    #22199491 - 09/06/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It would just be Steve all fucking: only no one wants to look up his skirt. No need for the rest of the crew.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22199502 - 09/06/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it seems unecessary to me, and too costly.

we can nuke like 3-8 cities with 1 minuteman ICBM in 8 minutes. and we have a couple dozen of em at least


so why have space weapons? sure, they would give us a better first-strike capability, but is 3 less minutes of nuke transit-time worth billions of dollars?


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #22199514 - 09/06/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If you are looking for a reliable and ready militia, look into the 3%'ers.





97% retards, a bunch of bigots I wouldnt piss on if they were on fire


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Adolin]
    #22199524 - 09/06/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on the platform they're on and how stealth it is. Nukes on the ground are mostly stationary, this is largely why the nuclear arsenal is so large, to ensure we will have the capability to strike back, should they try and just take out that option from the beginning.

So you have to factor that into the cost. A handful of missiles up there, or countless down here. Which is really more expensive to build/maintain?


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22199547 - 09/06/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lol it's all good man... We will still defend you if you ever need it. We love you and we love freedom. Including your choice not to piss on us if we're on fire <3


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Adolin]
    #22199552 - 09/06/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Gresh said:
it seems unecessary to me, and too costly.

we can nuke like 3-8 cities with 1 minuteman ICBM in 8 minutes. and we have a couple dozen of em at least


so why have space weapons? sure, they would give us a better first-strike capability, but is 3 less minutes of nuke transit-time worth billions of dollars?



If those 3 minutes can guarantee zero retaliation then its worth every penny. The space platform would also be ideal for missile defense shields as it could immediatly target ballistic missles instead of merely being an early detection system that gives us the 10 minutes we need to get ours in the air for retaliation.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22199560 - 09/06/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Depends on the platform they're on and how stealth it is. Nukes on the ground are mostly stationary, this is largely why the nuclear arsenal is so large, to ensure we will have the capability to strike back, should they try and just take out that option from the beginning.

So you have to factor that into the cost. A handful of missiles up there, or countless down here. Which is really more expensive to build/maintain?




i have no idea which would be more costly. but we also have the SSBN subs, and there is really no defense against them and they're neigh-impossible to detect

i can only speculate though, im no expert :lol: it just seems extremely expensive and risky to send weapons like that into orbit


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22199573 - 09/06/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wouldn't be that hard to knock out the global positioning system with a few well placed missiles. China's already demonstrated that ability years ago. Knocking down a few nuclear armed satelittes isn't that big of a jumped. Honestly when your at the level of thermonuclear weapons in the Megaton range there is no stepping up capabilities anymore. You're already at a level where triggering any response is a guaranteed extinction level event. What's the point of mass drivers and low orbit nuclear strikes at that point? There isn't any.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22199591 - 09/06/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wouldn't be that hard to knock out the global positioning system with a few well placed missiles. China's already demonstrated that ability years ago. Knocking down a few nuclear armed satelittes isn't that big of a jumped. Honestly when your at the level of thermonuclear weapons in the Megaton range there is no stepping up capabilities anymore. You're already at a level where triggering any response is a guaranteed extinction level event. What's the point of mass drivers and low orbit nuclear strikes at that point? There isn't any.



A major benefit of using orbital based mass drivers as opposed to nuclear weapons is that we'll actually use them. And with no nuclear fallout there will be no international outrage either.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22199630 - 09/06/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You don't think there's gonna be outrage over using weapons that can level entire cities in a single shot?

:lolsy:


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #22199633 - 09/06/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i say we test that theory on n. korea.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: rackem]
    #22199641 - 09/06/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

China's totally not gonna declare war on the states in that scenario. You seem to have a very tenuous grasps on geopolitics.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22199643 - 09/06/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wouldn't be that hard to knock out the global positioning system with a few well placed missiles. China's already demonstrated that ability years ago. Knocking down a few nuclear armed satelittes isn't that big of a jumped. Honestly when your at the level of thermonuclear weapons in the Megaton range there is no stepping up capabilities anymore. You're already at a level where triggering any response is a guaranteed extinction level event. What's the point of mass drivers and low orbit nuclear strikes at that point? There isn't any.



It's not hard to base a point of attack without GPS either. Given what a nuclear warhead can actually do, you have an even wider margin of error than with the usual dumb bombs.

As for the rest, you tell me. I dunno. Orbiting platforms are no less unnecessary than the terrestrial based ones. It's just a giant dick waving contest. Regardless of the platform used, any nuclear war would pretty much end our species.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22199651 - 09/06/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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China's totally not gonna declare war on the states in that scenario. You seem to have a very tenuous grasps on geopolitics.



China is totally surrounded by regional rivals. China doesn't even have the capacity to become a regional hegemon for that reason.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22199653 - 09/06/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So essentially you agree with me. Not only would orbital stations be considerable more taxing on the states finances they would also be more vulnerable by quite a wide factor in comparison to terrestrial installations. So again, what's the point?


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22199661 - 09/06/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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China's totally not gonna declare war on the states in that scenario. You seem to have a very tenuous grasps on geopolitics.



China is totally surrounded by regional rivals. China doesn't even have the capacity to become a regional hegemon for that reason.




They're regional rivals are gnats in comparison to their capabilities. The states hold on power is already on a irreversible decline as it is


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22199680 - 09/06/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What's the point of any of it? Using them is pointless. You don't "stop" anything. All you do is make sure they get fucked up as well and as we fuck each other up, we ensure no one will survive on this planet.

Like I said, it's a giant dick waving contest. Having nukes in space means you have a bigger dick than nukes on Earth. It's also harder to fire a non-gps guided bomb from a point on Earth to another point on Earth, than it is to calculate a firing plan from space to a point on Earth. You have to factor in much more (some may even be incalculable) for Earth to Earth than you do space to Earth.

You can also get away with much smaller missiles. Rockets are highly ineffective methods of travel due to the fuel needs. When you don't have to overcome Earth's gravity to begin with, you need a fraction of the fuel, thus a much simpler and smaller missile.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22199695 - 09/06/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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China's totally not gonna declare war on the states in that scenario. You seem to have a very tenuous grasps on geopolitics.



China is totally surrounded by regional rivals. China doesn't even have the capacity to become a regional hegemon for that reason.




They're regional rivals are gnats in comparison to their capabilities. The states hold on power is already on a irreversible decline as it is



Would you call South Korea, Japan, Singapore, India, Vietnam, and Taiwan gnats? Even the smallest of the Asian tigers, Singapore, has a substantial military capability and is a serious regional power.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22199698 - 09/06/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

But they're just out there unarmoured and unprotected. A single hypersonic missile would take them out before anyone could even react.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22199703 - 09/06/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol it's all good man... We will still defend you if you ever need it. We love you and we love freedom. Including your choice not to piss on us if we're on fire <3






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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22199716 - 09/06/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I stuffin the muffin while riskin the biscuit.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22199724 - 09/06/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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But they're just out there unarmoured and unprotected. A single hypersonic missile would take them out before anyone could even react.



That's why I said it would depend on how stealth they are. Space is pretty big. It's not hard to imagine they could hide it out there somehow. We still have issues finding fixed points on the ground with much higher foot prints, and the surface of the Earth is constantly monitored to a great deal higher of a percentage than the sky is.

Is it vulnerable? Sure, if you make it obvious or easy to find. If you figure out a way to make it extremely difficult or impossible to spot, you've just grown your dick exponentially.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22199726 - 09/06/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Taiwan and Singapore are essentially aligned with China already and it's much more complicated then simple military numbers. National alligences play a significant role in regional power structures. Either way the states would be laid waste to. Every power out there has spent the last 6 decades devolping the capabilities to knock out rival superpowers in one fell stroke. Dropping a 90 ton rock from orbit on N.Korea would not be met with compliance from any rival state out there.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22199738 - 09/06/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Stuffin the muffin, not to mention the pickle buffin.


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Re: Should we militarize outer space? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22199758 - 09/06/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I stuffin the muffin while riskin the biscuit.






this the only use of a 3% I've found yet... endless amusement


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