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LearysGrandson
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Mushrooms and MAOIs?
#22197702 - 09/06/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello everyone 
So I am going to have 8g of shrooms for my and my gf to share. When we met we each had an eighth and had a wonderful trip that solidified our love. I want tomake this stash go as long as possible, so I was thinking about combining it with the caapi and rue stash I have.
So does anyone know how I can guage my doses of MAOIs? Which is more preferrable, yellow caapi vine or syrian rue? How many grams of mushrooms with how many grams of whatever MAOIs do I need for a 3.5g trip? 5g trip? Higher?
Thank you all for any help
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Sabnock
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From my understanding, 2.5 grams of Shrooms was more than enough with 5 grams of Rue for a friend of mine. I took some Moclobemide last night with some Shroom tea made from 5 grams though i think only 3 or 4 got absorbed before i purged. But Shrooms with MAO-A inhibition is really good, and is different than Shrooms by themselves but i think it makes for a more whole feeling experience. Was definitely pretty visual for me last night through my third eye view.
So with Rue or Caapi, i'd probably keep it at 2 to 2.5 grams with full MAO-A inhibition. I hear they can be potentiated quite a bit by Rue or Caapi.
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LearysGrandson
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Re: Mushrooms and MAOIs? [Re: Sabnock]
#22198568 - 09/06/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bumping for info
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SpiritShroom
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I just tripped friday night. I Had .4-.5g of cubes in chocolates I had saved from my last trip with my fiance last week. Tbh, I was very paranoid about rue and everything everyone made it up to be. Its not bad on your stomach at all. I made a 3g tea, medium heat for 30 mins and then cranked the heat up for 2 more minutes and took them off. Halfway I put 1/5 of a lime juice in it. Felt the tea pretty quick. 20 mins I felt headspace and ready to do the shrooms. 30 min mark I dosed them. Cause I had such a low amount but they took a good hour to come up. I chilled with my family outside for 30 minutes and after 30 I thought that was all I was gonna get was slight headspace, no visuals or nothing.
Then 30 mins later they really kicked in. It became a higher level 2 trip. I was getting some interesting cev, not 3d but visuals for sure. Still feeling no discomfort whatsoever. In fact at the 30 min mark when I Dosed them I actually brewed up 3,5g More of syrian rue. The 30 mins later by the time I was finished brewing it in water , I actually only had a sip or 2 cause the shrooms were hitting me nicely by then. The size of the shroom chocolate I had left was the size when you put your thumb and pointer finger together, that space in half. It was small. I had a great time. I was surprised how much of a trip I got from the .3-.5 whatever it was , it was a small bite size chunk of the 2g cubes chocolate i had. It lasted a very long time too. I had 1 bowl of purp during the peak, and I definitely peaked. I connected with the mushroom spirit a bit, and I merged with it, Was like I was existing in its realm. I learned that the mushroom is just a high vibrational organism existing on gaia, and when you consume it you merge into its space/realm.
Rue definitely increased the length. I was tripping for a good 3-4 hours with nice glowing after for 2 hours, even still when I went to bed then. The only thing that was bad was the acidity of the rue. But I also fasted pretty much, only ate veggies and bread 2 days before. So there was nothing in my stomach but the rue, and lots and lots of water. It made for some discomfort for sure, but I just had to vomit twice at 6am, (Dosed at 1) and all the acidity was gone, even after tons of water. Very refreshed and took some tums to level out and passed out nicely.
This was my first experience with rue. All the food with maoi seems to be BS to me. I read that rue only activates mao-a or something, and not really affected by foods. It rings true to me. Not to mention next day I completely pigged out on jerk chicken and pepperoni bread and cookies and was fine.
So it definitely increases the length. It adds for a much deeper aspect than just the shrooms itself, and as the mushroom is a teacher So is the rue. In fact during the trip I thought about working with rue more and came here to research, I heard the rue goddess will teach you if you pay attention to her restrictions etc, mostly being food. I could feel the aspect of the rue, as well as the mushroom. For your questions, This was my first maoi experience. But I heard rue is much more potent than caapi. Depends how far you want to go. 2,5g is a lot of shrooms alone, to be potentiated like I did with my half g would be pretty gnarly. I can see you going way deep for sure. 2.5g Is more than enough for a very nice trip with your girl. With rue thats going to make it closer to 4-5g feel like. Rue is potent for sure. It will be very strong.
I would not dose any higher than 2.5 if you have no tolerance. Id say 2.5g shroom and 3.5g rue - realllly deep. More in - if that makes sense. The rue has a spirit of its own and when you combine them they really work their magic together. Level 4 for sure. 1.5-2g would make it a nice level 3. 1g would make it a high 2 low 3, very long and nicely. If i were you though, I go 2.5g each and 3.5 rue. I prefer to go deep when I trip. Either way you guys are going to trip very nicely, and wont be dissapointed at all. I took a small ass chunk of shroom chocolate and with probably 4g ingested rue I tripped way harder and nicer than I thought I would. So be care If you both do 2.5, then you each have 1.5g mushies left. It would be nice to trip like that, then in another week (preferably 2) you guys trip again. For me I noticed it takes 2 trips to fully integrate everything I learned, because while your tripping you understand, then the 2nd time you remember and incorporate it. Thats just me though.
Longpost lol , just wanted to share a bit. tl;dr Rue has a spirit of its own, Its very potent when mixed with shrooms, I wouldnt go more than 3.5g (you can but I dont see why, its already that strong. You're going to trip very nicely , even off of 1g with rue. They truly synergize. Put rue in water low-medium heat for 30 mins, crank it up at the end just to be sure, strain seeds drink, 20-30 mins later dose. You will know when to dose cause when the rue hits you 15-20 mins in you're like okay, lets go this feels nice im ready. Hope I could help OP. Godspeed. Ps cheers with your girl. My girl became my fiance as of last week. How amazing to synergize male and female love together as one in those states of being.   Enjoy
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Ty I did 225mg extracted harmalas and 2g shrooms....I did not get a potentiate. ....interesting cev....like a story....but definitely didn't feel as high as if I had just eaten 3.5 g mush on its own...next time..3.5g shrooms and same amount of harmala. ....that should do me I think....
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LearysGrandson
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Does anyone know anything about combining it with caapi vine? I heard it is better for ayahuasca as there is a more welcoming and wise plant teacher behind the caapi but idk if it is the same for rue. I have a pound of caapi vine and an ounce of rue so idk what to use lol.
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