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SushiKing
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I know some people that are on heroin and I was thinking about introducing them to kratom as well. My thought process around it is that maybe it can help curb cravings cause it hits the same receptors in the brain. I just don't know if kratom would be sufficient enough for them to switch to.
I think that kratom has the power to help, but ultimately it always comes back to "does the person really want to get clean?"
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#22201964 - 09/07/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: You fail at reading apparently, no you're not just as stupid as "b", but stupidity is still stupidity, and you're injecting it, my friend just died last Sunday from injecting it, you're a idiot by doing it at all, easy enough to understand this time?
of course its not smart to shoot heroin, but I haven't OD'd in my 6 years of doing it. I haven't been close to dying. So just because im not a dumbass like your friend, don't assume I am.
I am going to detox as soon as I can get into one...now go back to drinking yourself retarded every night or whatever it is that you do.
Not reading this whole thread, but I just want to add that I lost a friend of 20+ years back in June to an overdose. He had been using heroin and other opiates for at least 10 years. People overdose and die all the time, it has nothing to do with their amount of 'experience' using the drug. 
Just because other people have killed themselves with heroin before you doesn't mean you aren't just as much of a dumbass as they are.
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22202248 - 09/07/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: So I was at my dealers house last night and the black dude is there...hes smoking dope off foil, my guy is sniffing lines, and I am shooting.
So the whole night they were sniffing Xanax bars. The past few nights both have been asking me to let them try my "green eggs and ham" perforated blotter. The black "main" dude, whos name is Brendan, goes by the name "B". I ended up giving him and my guy some acid, because I love sharing the love.
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and I don't know why you guys are saying I am stupid for surrounding myself with those people when all I did was plan to go to the house for 2 minutes, cop a bag of dope, and leave. I had no idea "B" was there.
You're so contradictory. Start off by acting like you're chillin in a drug den getting faded with a couple dealers on the regular and then when people don't think thats so cool its oh na man i was gonna be in an out, of course ik the shits bad for me...
Pretty soon you'll be telling us you're clean while you're preppin a shot behind that glass monitor...
You're walking a slippery slope, don't let your feet get out from underneath you...
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bugler Boy]
#22202303 - 09/07/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Umm i made it quite clear the whole time i only went there to buy some dope and leave. Those dudes are not my friends. One is my dealer and the other was his dealer.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22202319 - 09/07/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Umm i made it quite clear the whole time i only went there to buy some dope and leave. Those dudes are not my friends. One is my dealer and the other was his dealer.
Please get clean man, you know where this damn road is heading!
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Turtletotem]
#22202338 - 09/07/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's nothing "in an out" about the OP. It def gives off i was chillin vibe but maybe its just me 
carry on bill
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bugler Boy] 2
#22202546 - 09/07/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You hang with thugs you become a thug.
I know how it goes. You chill at your speed/ heroin dealer's apartment and do a shot and what was supposed to be a short visit ends up a multiple day fiasco.
They are not your friends but they become your drug den buddies.
Please check yourself into rehab mate, the path you are going down is dark. I don't even know why this thread was created the focus should not be on your druggie friends the focus should be on your health.
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bugler Boy]
#22202551 - 09/07/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OP is a life and death struggle with opiate addiction and his entire life hangs in the balance.
Wishing you luck OP and remember nature provided two magic lifelines for opiate addicts - Kratom (as a replacement for opiates) and ibogaine (to cure the withdrawal and resolve the emotional and psychological problems causing you to use).
I recommend all opiate addicts to research both and choose one, as Either dramatically increases your chance Of getting clean .
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Moonshoe]
#22202560 - 09/07/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck the kratom, fuck the ibogaine, fuck the bells and whistles.
The only way I recovered from my meth addiction was a forced court ordered rehab thing. I always thought the only way to get clean an sober was on your own but sometimes somebody needs to give you a firm kick in the balls to get you there.
Check into rehab, man up, and move on. Life is way better without drugs dude drugs are for thugs.
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Ibogaine and Kratom don't work for meth. They work wonders for opaite addiction.
If you can quit cold turkey do it obviously, if like the majority of opiate addicts you can't, try rehab. If that doesn't work try Kratom, if that doesn't work try ibogaine (properly supervised).
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Moonshoe]
#22202582 - 09/07/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Ibogaine and Kratom don't work for meth. They work wonders for opaite addiction.
If you can quit cold turkey do it obviously, if like the majority of opiate addicts you can't, try rehab. If that doesn't work try Kratom, if that doesn't work try ibogaine (properly supervised).
Kratom won't do anything for him and ibogaine is probably fine.
Best thing to do is to buckle down and man up and go to rehab or just stop drugs all together. It is the best way no bells and whistles just get er done.
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Bitter Cactus said: Best thing to do is to buckle down and man up and go to rehab or just stop drugs all together. It is the best way no bells and whistles just get er done.
Do it, Bill, for your sake. You're good people, Bill. There's not a lot of that in the world.
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#22202593 - 09/07/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think your dealer or his dealer would appreciate you cataloging their actions on the internet, Bill.
I think it is stupid to stay in a lifestyle like that, especially when you know better. Detox won't help you get resolve to quit. There is no quick-fix and honestly I think psychedelics can only hurt you at this point.
You're headed for trouble son, get yo shit together now, don't wait for circumstances to make it easy for you. Just do it.
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Yep psychedelics and drugs similar to psychs and all that is just garbage when you are trying to get off drugs.
The last thing you should be thinking about is tripping or using other drugs to make the recovery easier. Just man up and get er done like I told you and no drugs for a long time.
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I would say get on maintenance and take it seriously. Don't sell/trade meds, and actually be honest with your doctors and stick to a taper, or maintenace schedule if you're not ready. It will allow you to move past that lifestyle and retrain yourself to life without that BS, as even the runaround is addictive to alot of people in it's own way, as much as you claim to hate it.
It sounds like you're quite easily influenced by others Bill, and trying to impress others with your special abilities gained through the use of drugs hasn't served you well. It's time to move on and actually cut people using dope out of your life. You know they're no good, and they'll take you down with them in the end, if you don't crash and burn yourself first. That's the way it always goes.
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22202699 - 09/07/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: So theres this dude..hes a light-skinned black dude, about 26 years old. He sells tons of heroin to the guy that I get my shit off of. So I was at my dealers house last night and the black dude is there...hes smoking dope off foil, my guy is sniffing lines, and I am shooting.
So the whole night they were sniffing Xanax bars. The past few nights both have been asking me to let them try my "green eggs and ham" perforated blotter. The black "main" dude, whos name is Brendan, goes by the name "B". I ended up giving him and my guy some acid, because I love sharing the love.
So today I call up my guy and he told me that "B" ended up losing half of shit(over 1,000 dollars worth of heroin) and some cash. B is blaming me because I gave him the acid and he was seeing "faces melt" and the whole 9. Now this shocks me because I told him 5 times not to take the acid that night because he was doing benzos so he would probably not even feel it. Well, I guess he did.
But yeah, this dude is blaming my acid asking "whats in that shit dude" blah blah bah...
I keep telling him that he lost his shit because HE SHIFFED LIKE 8 BARS OF FUCKING XANAX!!!! but nope...stubborn muthafucka wont listen. So now, because of me and my acid, he lost his shit and "saw faces melt."
now my guy, the middle man, is on my side because he is experienced with acid. He keeps telling "B" that acid rarely makes you see things like that and theres no way it was the acids fault seeing as how he only took like 3 tabs along with TONS of Xanax. We are both surprised he even tripped at all.
sorry...had to vent.
Smoke DMT with them and pray to jesus
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: SushiKing]
#22202724 - 09/07/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SushiKing said: I know some people that are on heroin and I was thinking about introducing them to kratom as well. My thought process around it is that maybe it can help curb cravings cause it hits the same receptors in the brain. I just don't know if kratom would be sufficient enough for them to switch to.
I think that kratom has the power to help, but ultimately it always comes back to "does the person really want to get clean?"
Everyone here is giving OP advice on how to kick his addiction but it doesn't seem like he gives a shit about getting clean or not. You can only help someone so much.
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22204013 - 09/07/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah honestly nobody have said anything in this thread that I haven't heard 1000 times before. its not like im oblivious to the fact I need to stop shooting heroin
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22204020 - 09/07/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: So theres this dude..hes a light-skinned black dude, about 26 years old. He sells tons of heroin to the guy that I get my shit off of. So I was at my dealers house last night and the black dude is there...hes smoking dope off foil, my guy is sniffing lines, and I am shooting.
so what happened to you no longer being a junkie
Its a struggle, man. I cant seem to quit for good...ill go a month or 2 clean then start up again.
longest I had since I started at age 19 was about 8 months. its so hard.
no, you're just that weak
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Re: Wow people are fucking stupid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22204071 - 09/07/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: yeah honestly nobody have said anything in this thread that I haven't heard 1000 times before. its not like im oblivious to the fact I need to stop shooting heroin 
So do it. If everybody on a drug forum thinks you are a fucking moron maybe you should consider adjusting your behavior. Or not. My level of give a shit is not all that high
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