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Re: Trump [Re: fivepointer]
    #23699251 - 10/02/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



We Are There, America

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fivepointer said:
Trump has a record of stiffing those who deal with him. 

Hurting the little people




oh yeah, but this is how rich people get rich, see? all his fans admire his abilities to "get rich".

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akira_akuma said:
HU likes getting taxed, it aspires him to be more like Trump.




^ as noted.


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23699413 - 10/02/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why do you guys personally attack me? Is enil ever gonna do his fucking job? We can't discuss the issues when you guys constantly make it about me... :facepalm:


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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23699419 - 10/02/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You refuse to acknowledge the issues, thats the only insult youre receiving, that I can see at least.


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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23699442 - 10/02/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you guys personally attack me? Is enil ever gonna do his fucking job? We can't discuss the issues when you guys constantly make it about me... :facepalm:



^ typical conservative loony post.


















see the irony? intentional irony....you don't see anyone going around saying shit like the above shit, do you...only you do -- it just has "libtard" or "progressive" as the title, instead of "cuckservative"


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23699472 - 10/02/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The bully mentality...it's pretty typical of the left and of the right. Both sides are corrupt as hell and don't give two shits about any one of us on here. Instead of arguing about these details, we should all be working together to repel Globalism and the elite Globalists that have created an environment in which the government is no longer "of the people and for the people" but is now against its own people. This is happening on a global scale. We need to take our country back from these theives then we can start hashin out issues like health care and the likes.
  Unfortunately, until we all come together to defeat this power structure, none of this arguing even matters, because our Country will continue to be raped and pillaged from the inside out and the top down.
    There is only one candidate talking about the world stage in this manner. That's Donald Trump, sure he's not the perfect candidate, but quite frankly who is? Nobody is perfect, nor will you ever have a candidate that you fall in line with 100%. As much as I support Trump, there are things I disagree with. But he is the only Anti-Globalism Pro America candidate in the race. This earns my vote, his message, the populist movement, that all earns my vote. I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt, and give him the chance to folow through on what he says hes gonna do. The alternative is 8 more years of country wrecking policies on steroids. And I think it's fair to say we can NOT sustain another 8 yrs of this horse crap we have all had to deal with.


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy] * 1
    #23699487 - 10/02/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This country is a ticking time bomb.


Trump supporters: Lets just hit the bomb with a sledgehammer! Sure, its not the perfect disarming device, but we gotta do something before this thing blows up.


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23699491 - 10/02/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

then you got these people, the still use the left-right dichotomy, and then say, "i'm not part of the either's corruption!"

ok...THEN MAKE A POINT THEN.
(repetition for emphasis)

instead of just calling out "corrupt!"


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23699570 - 10/02/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

man the guys really running this county keep everybody so in the dark that even the president that actually think's he's running the country really isn't..


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Re: Trump [Re: hellno]
    #23699596 - 10/02/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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man the guys really running this county keep everybody so in the dark that even the president that actually think's he's running the country really isn't..




Exactly...corruption by nature is deceitful. It is meant to not be easily identifiable or proven, especially when the persecution and prosecution of said corruption is protected by the corrupt DOJ. They are all working against us. The American people need to unite on this common ground. If we don't unite and take the country back from the Globalists, this entire discussion is irrelevant, the issues are irrelevant, none of it will matter.


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23699611 - 10/02/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

need evidence, or no one gives a fuck. it's already part of the general consciousness of the world...even my mother knows about "the global money laundering conspiracy!"

she doesn't blame the Jews, but still, close enough...actually, probably closer. there are a lot of smart Jews. alot of smart people generally get in the station of presidence over state and nation, it's because they are smart that they can get there...just saying.

yeah, rich people want to get richer...EVERY -- BODY -- KNOWS -- ALREADY.

that's what we're all talking about here...and you're acting like, "gee, these people are just mindless drones in the apocalypse man."

dude...it's not new. in fact, it's very old. everyone knows what you're saying...it's just that you need evidence.

and so far as you know, for certain, Trump could be connected to Clinton...so could Sanders. this all could be a ploy so Sanders is in, GASP socialism! we can work with that to destabilize further, keep them off their toes, give 'em skip-rope! or Trump! oh no, he's tearing this country apart, he destroyed the GOP and now he's *insert move here; flipping on everyone? becoming totalitarian?* or maybe, it's all for Clinton's sake? beat out the socialist! (whew!) beat out the crazy guy! so, it's status quo for the win! yeah, Clinton era has nine lives!


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23699722 - 10/02/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There's plenty of evidence that James Comey and Loretta Lynch threw away the opportunity to expose it all just to....wait for it....protect the crime syndicate so the corruption can continue.

It's more then just money laundering brotha. We are talking mass murder. Every one of these unjustified wars we have been creating under the "guise" of nation building has cost 100,000's of lives. The overwhelming majority of those deaths are innocent civilians. Of course money is the motivation and all that war profit gets laundered throughout the world.
  But I'm glad we are on the same page, it's good to be in good company :jah:


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23699743 - 10/02/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i am even more cynical than you, i don't believe anything but A: Trump's brain trust (you know what a brain trust is?) is going to listen to the America people, at first...but he'll do more of what he's like to already be doing by the end of his first term [Obama anyone?] and what he'll likely get away with with his support; and that's that his brain trust will inform him of dire needs of the country, due to some foreign influence eg Syria, or Pakistan; something; and there ya go, you'll have America going in, to not only "destroy ISIS" but also to protect oil concerns, in general. status quo remains the same. BUT OR and this is a big 'BUT OR' B: he'll listen to his brain trust only in so far as it'll help the American people stabilise their economy, and resist using ISIS as a foothold to the region [and to note, helping to quell ISIS would help stabilise the region and thus the areas effected (including surrounding EU countries)]

if B: American can eventually move on.

if A: then America will just entrench. (so far it's always A)

Saudi's are good allies, though, and so is Russia, but only so far as keeping them at bay, and ahead of them; certain not through collusion. only trade and, of course, energy and environment concerns, ect, normal foreign policy and peace relations.

there's a lot of shit to face as a super power in this coming year.

brewing tensions on all sides.

Trump can focus on the needs of Americas, or can focus on economically distilling the middle east into their private fiefdom.

presumably, the Saudi's might indeed be ok with this...but....


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23699745 - 10/02/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Didn't see your edit....sorry for double post...

Your right Trump COULD be but I doubt he is. With every stump speech he gives he causes irrevocable damage to the power establishment. I highly doubt he is part of the establishment but I could very well be wrong. Sanders should be the nominee he destroyed Clinton, but he took his check from the fat cat establishment to bow out and give it to Hillary. Then he turned around and bought a 650,000 lake house. So he bought into the corruption as well. The only one still standing against the establishment is Trump :shrug:.
I'm happy he destroyed the GOP, I despise both parties, I myself am a constitutionalist independent, and I see the destruction of the GOP aND the collapse of the Dems as a God sent blessing.


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23699762 - 10/02/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Trump is already corrupt, he's no longer a  businessman, he's a businessman and he's a politician and when he gets into office, president.

power corrupts absolutely.


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy] * 1
    #23699767 - 10/02/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bernie got $200+M from his supporters, but nah, yeah, he totally sold his soul for a $600k check from the man.


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23699775 - 10/02/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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i am even more cynical than you, i don't believe anything but A: Trump's brain trust (you know what a brain trust is?) is going to listen to the America people, at first...but he'll do more of what he's like to already be doing by the end of his first term [Obama anyone?] and what he'll likely get away with with his support; and that's that his brain trust will inform him of dire needs of the country, due to some foreign influence eg Syria, or Pakistan; something; and there ya go, you'll have America going in, to not only "destroy ISIS" but also to protect oil concerns, in general. status quo remains the same. BUT OR and this is a big 'BUT OR' B: he'll listen to his brain trust only in so far as it'll help the American people stabilise their economy, and resist using ISIS as a foothold to the region [and to note, helping to quell ISIS would help stabilise the region and thus the areas effected (including surrounding EU countries)]

if B: American can eventually move on.

if A: then America will just entrench. (so far it's always A)

Saudi's are good allies, though, and so is Russia, but only so far as keeping them at bay, and ahead of them; certain not through collusion. only trade and, of course, energy and environment concerns, ect, normal foreign policy and peace relations.



Akira...I absolutely totally agree with this post....you are on point my friend...But I truly believe that Trump is in it to win it...He has the opportunity here to change the course of the world, and with that go down in history as a monumental figure of independence and liberty.
  Did you support Brexit?


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23699781 - 10/02/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Absolute power corrupts absolutely...but the presidency is not absolute power. There are checks and balances as you know I'm sure. But I do agree the propensity for deceit is there. At this point though what are the options....the possibility of corruption with Trump or the guarantee of corruption with Hillary...it's gotta be one or the other


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23699805 - 10/02/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i am Canadian. hence not a part of the EU. i am impartial. so hence i see that A: the people wanted it, to not try it out, would be absurd for one reason; to not try it would be invalidating the fact it was decided upon to be done, and that considered and put to a vote -- another being that it is not beyond reason. and B: of course Brexit does mean that there is less finance from the substrata of monetary-funds in it's Sci. departments, and thus is Mathematical, Physical & Life Sciences Division and Medical Sciences Division, will get less funding; and i offer conjecture there is also reasoning to believe that this effect of the Brexit will effect the markets so, that there will be cuts in other areas as well.


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23699818 - 10/02/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Absolute power corrupts absolutely...but the presidency is not absolute power. There are checks and balances as you know I'm sure. But I do agree the propensity for deceit is there. At this point though what are the options....the possibility of corruption with Trump or the guarantee of corruption with Hillary...it's gotta be one or the other



my point was grasped nought by you, but nearly: not that you didn't read into what i was saying, no offence, i mean nothing by it, but to say that what i meant by what i said was that Trump is already a business man, thus, that lends to power. this can be dissuaded, by certain degrees of checks and balances, certain moral deference; but power tends to corrupt, and absolute power, ie the attainment of high positions, as the saying goes is an "absolute" which has no real meaning, but to connote to powers that be, so that is to say that it means nothing if but the next nearest "absolute" or "power", that is the next corrupting force...as long as we concede that "the powers that be" tend to be corrupt, from our vantage point, at least has been for some time.

Trump has now gone from business man...to business man and politician...come to think of it, he didn't even drop the latter title.


this worries me.


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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23699879 - 10/02/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the top ten percent pays about 70% of all federal income taxes, anything else is just liberal tripe





Another dead horse to flog.
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