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Re: Trump [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23650497 - 09/16/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

^ @Douglas Howard, thank you. More people need to see these videos


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Re: Trump [Re: ninelives] * 1
    #23650509 - 09/16/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What does it say about the inclusivity of the GOP if Dems can treat minorities like shit and still get virtually all of their votes?


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23650543 - 09/16/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Minorities have been played for decades by the liberals. They are waking up. This election you will see record levels of minorities supporting the GOP, and those numbers will continue to grow going forward. Don't beleive what the media tells you about Minorities hating Trump, it's all spun like a spider's web.


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23650650 - 09/16/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Peteyboy said:
Minorities have been played for decades by the liberals. They are waking up. This election you will see record levels of minorities supporting the GOP, and those numbers will continue to grow going forward. Don't beleive what the media tells you about Minorities hating Trump, it's all spun like a spider's web.




Source?


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23650732 - 09/16/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Trump [Re: Douglas Howard] * 2
    #23650848 - 09/16/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You realize this is the Trump thread, right?

There are easily a dozen Hillary threads for your copypasta


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23650884 - 09/16/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I am so sorry to have given you a source upon your request. I have forgotten that when you trolls says source, you guys doesn't really means it. The word source to y'all, is a word that you all uses as a term of endearment, like how some people calls someone that is close to them, "Sweet cakes".


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Re: Trump [Re: Douglas Howard] * 1
    #23650947 - 09/16/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When people ask for sources, they are asking for some work (a study for instance) that back up your claims.  A video about Hillary "gouging" her supporters is irrelevent (mostly) to the discussion of whether or not liberals have been "playing" minorities "for decades".  If you have an actual credible source to support these claims, then by all means, post it.  ( try www.scholar.google.com )


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Re: Trump [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23651042 - 09/16/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Im just surprised that with the combined efforts of two previous presidents, and the top 3 mainstream media channels, ABC, CBS and NBC, and the vast majority of all television and written media, they still can't keep this guy down. You have to wonder, why are they trying so hard if Hillary is soaring in the polls. What is the Clinton/Obama campaign sweating so hard about?


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Re: Trump [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23651504 - 09/16/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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When people ask for sources, they are asking for some work (a study for instance) that back up your claims.  A video about Hillary "gouging" her supporters is irrelevent (mostly) to the discussion of whether or not liberals have been "playing" minorities "for decades".  If you have an actual credible source to support these claims, then by all means, post it.  ( try www.scholar.google.com )




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Re: Trump [Re: ninelives]
    #23651803 - 09/16/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Im just surprised that with the combined efforts of two previous presidents, and the top 3 mainstream media channels, ABC, CBS and NBC, and the vast majority of all television and written media, they still can't keep this guy down. You have to wonder, why are they trying so hard if Hillary is soaring in the polls. What is the Clinton/Obama campaign sweating so hard about?




he has some trends that favor him.
The supposed "third term curse" has been casting a pall over HRC's campaign since 2014

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2015/Feature_stories/third_term_curse.html
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In the summer of 2014, with midterm election season still underway, the commentariat was already looking ahead to the 2016 presidential race. Hillary Clinton's nomination seemed inevitable even then, and a slew of articles warned (or hoped) that she might fall victim to the dreaded "third-term curse"—the supposed propensity for American voters to rebel against giving the White House to the same political party for three straight elections. In the pages the New York Times, for example, John Harwood wrote:

For all the strengths she would bring to a 2016 race, Mrs. Clinton would face a significant historical obstacle. American voters have demonstrated their reluctance to award the same political party a third consecutive term in the White House.

Fox News—surprise!—published a similar article just a week later. Under the headline "The historical urge that could hurt Hillary," Howard Kurtz wondered:

For all the talk about Hillary Clinton ... bringing Bill back to the White House, I've long felt that there is a sleeper issue in play for 2016: Will voters want to give Democrats control of the White House for 12 straight years?

The third-term curse is likely to remain a talking point throughout the 2016 campaign, as the tendency to try and identify patterns is hardwired into the human brain (the scientific term for this is 'apophenia'). However, like most (all?) curses, it is nonsense. It is numerology masquerading as political analysis, and the John Harwoods and Howard Kurtzes of the world should know better.




even if it is nonsense, all that really matters is if enough people believe in it to influence the vote.

Trump has the advantage of being seen as the only mainstream "populist" left in the race

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/bernie-sanders-rally-hillary-clinton-trump-video-philadelphia
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Those who responded ranged from voters who had, grudgingly and with a heavy sense of grief, swung their support behind Clinton to defeat Donald Trump, to others who said they would simply vote for Trump.

"We're tired of being put in a corner," said Gail Gouveia, from Massachusetts. Gouveia won't vote for Clinton and remains undecided. "I was surprised the way people caved in," she said, "and said they were going to vote for Hillary."

"I am so anti-Hillary," said LaShanda Parker, who entertained voting for Trump over Clinton. "Pick your poison. Do you want to get shot in the foot, or in the head?"




Even if it is a small minority, if the race is a close one, that might be enough to swing it.

Trump has enjoyed the advantage of free media exposure worth gajillions of dollars.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-mammoth-advantage-in-free-media.html?_r=0
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Over the course of the campaign, he has earned close to $2 billion worth of media attention, about twice the all-in price of the most expensive presidential campaigns in history. It is also twice the estimated $746 million that Hillary Clinton, the next best at earning media, took in. Senator Bernie Sanders has earned more media than any of the Republicans except Mr. Trump.




and that was as printed on March 15!  Hell, Trump just did this today!

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Donald Trump on Friday morning dangled an enticing offer — he would be making a "big statement" in just a few hours about the Barack Obama birther conspiracy that helped launch his political career.
The media took the bait. The cable networks offered wall-to-wall coverage of Trump's plane taxiing at Reagan National Airport (cozying near Hillary Clinton's own "Stronger Together" jet). With Trump running late for the 10 a.m. news conference, the image of an empty podium was flashed for more than an hour. And when Trump finally did appear, he got more than 20 minutes of free airtime promoting his new Washington hotel and showcasing endorsements from Medal of Honor recipients.





he probably has other things going for him as well.


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Re: Trump [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23652723 - 09/17/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So far the attention he has received has been mostly negative, and issues are danced upon for weeks after occurring. The same cannot be said about Hillary, whose issues are dropped a day or two after happening, with a few exceptions such as her health concerns. IMO it seems like a name smear. Awesome post too @ballsalsa :thumbup:


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23652999 - 09/17/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What does it say about the inclusivity of the GOP if Dems can treat minorities like shit and still get virtually all of their votes?




That the Dems are better at bribing people with 'free' stuff.


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Re: Trump [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23653231 - 09/17/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
What does it say about the inclusivity of the GOP if Dems can treat minorities like shit and still get virtually all of their votes?




That the Dems are better at bribing people with 'free' stuff.





What a lazy fucking response. The GOP spends just as much money on 'free' stuff as the Dems do. So that makes the right all the more retarded, they support the same programs that minorities vote Dem over, and STILL cant get the minority vote.


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23653277 - 09/17/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What does it say about the inclusivity of the GOP if Dems can treat minorities like shit and still get virtually all of their votes?




That the Dems are better at bribing people with 'free' stuff.





What a lazy fucking response. The GOP spends just as much money on 'free' stuff as the Dems do. So that makes the right all the more retarded, they support the same programs that minorities vote Dem over, and STILL cant get the minority vote.




Why couldn't Sanders get the minority vote?  Old white male syndrome? :lol:


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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
    #23653363 - 09/17/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Why couldn't Sanders get the minority vote?  Old white male syndrome? :lol:




Because, all racism aside, they were not savvy enough to realize that he was better for them than Clinton.  It's bad democracy.


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23653378 - 09/17/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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The Ecstatic said:
What does it say about the inclusivity of the GOP if Dems can treat minorities like shit and still get virtually all of their votes?




That the Dems are better at bribing people with 'free' stuff.





What a lazy fucking response. The GOP spends just as much money on 'free' stuff as the Dems do. So that makes the right all the more retarded, they support the same programs that minorities vote Dem over, and STILL cant get the minority vote.




The GOP prefers to give the "free stuff" away to "job creators" through corporate welfare programs


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Re: Trump [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23653385 - 09/17/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

exactly, HRC had a huge (yuge) name recognition advantage from the word, go.  This advantage gradually eroded throughout the campaign, but not before the damage was done.


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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
    #23653538 - 09/17/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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The Ecstatic said:
What does it say about the inclusivity of the GOP if Dems can treat minorities like shit and still get virtually all of their votes?




That the Dems are better at bribing people with 'free' stuff.





What a lazy fucking response. The GOP spends just as much money on 'free' stuff as the Dems do. So that makes the right all the more retarded, they support the same programs that minorities vote Dem over, and STILL cant get the minority vote.




Why couldn't Sanders get the minority vote?  Old white male syndrome? :lol:




Try total media blackout. Coupled with Bill being the first black president.


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Re: Trump [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
    #23653543 - 09/17/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
Why couldn't Sanders get the minority vote?  Old white male syndrome? :lol:




Because, all racism aside, they were not savvy enough to realize that he was better for them than Clinton.  It's bad democracy.




Bad democracy comes from an ill informed electorate. The media didnt just drop the ball, they fucking torpedoed the ball into the Marianas Trench.


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