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Enlil
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Thank you for your concern.
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Douglas Howard
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Douglas Howard said: What really is going to mess up the economy is the minimum wage hike. Some people believes that it will not hurt it. But just imagine the people are a commodity for a business. Let say that in order to rent these people as laborers, you must pay to rent them at $15 per hour. That means that the companies must raise prices on their products in order to make a profit and to keep renting these people. Like when JFK had made a speech, that he is going to make sure that inflation stays down. But the steel companies has raised their prices on their product that caused inflation to rise. If we raise the price of one thing, that it will start a domino effect of raising prices of everything else. Raising the wages will make more tax money, but then it will cause a lot of people to be out of work, because of companies will not be able to afford keeping a full staff of workers. That they will start having the employees doing the work of two or three employees. I remember they were trying to offer the police force to cut back on their pay so that they doesn't has to lay anyone off. But they refused the offer because they doesn't care about the next person.
Report: Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance
“It found that a single Walmart Supercenter cost taxpayers between $904,542 and $1.75 million per year, or between $3,015 and $5,815 on average for each of 300 workers.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/15/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/#5a4ed8c97cd8
State by state breakdown
http://www.americansfortaxfairness.org/files/Walmart-on-Tax-Day-Americans-for-Tax-Fairness-1.pdf
The government knows that what they has been approving is harmful to us and the environment, that they needs to pawn the people off on someone else to be responsible while they collect these bribes from corporations. Like a video that I had posted on another post about Jill Stein a Doctor has noticed a sudden rise ailments that is caused by environmental pollution. And Big Pharma wants to cash in on this epidemic by raising their prices on meds. But, they could not do this unless the companies, but not the corporations, the ones that has the money, to pay for their employees healthcare. But these companies feel as if they should not be responsible for their own employees health care. And so the politicians are going at it in another way by having these companies to pay more to their employees by raising minimum wages so that the employees can be responsible for their own healthcare. And now Big Pharma can receive back what they has been giving to the politicians, and will be able to make lots of money. Ever since I has been on an organic diet, I has forgotten how it feels to be sick. Just imagine if everyone goes organic like Russia, then they will only need healthcare for unpreventable accidents. But Big Pharma cannot cash in on that.
Lucky we doesn't has no politicians in office that want to start a war, or else these people will be cashing in on that war.
Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department
Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Clinton Foundation did not respond to questions from the IBTimes.
In all, governments and corporations involved in the arms deals approved by Clinton’s State Department have delivered between $54 million and $141 million to the Clinton Foundation as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments to the Clinton family, according to foundation and State Department records. The Clinton Foundation publishes only a rough range of individual http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187
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hostileuniverse
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The MOST the 'average America' can hope is some bullshit meaningless day called "Average America Day", kinda like "Dog Day" that was last Friday. Other then that they don't give a shit about us, it's all about Corporate Government interests.
Fixed it for ya.
Who the fuck do you think controls 'Government'.
The government. 
McDonald's controls the government!
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hostileuniverse
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starfire_xes said: Actually, I don't know why some people, if you tell them that the people have the absolute power to remove who they want from government if they are NOT doing the people's will, well...... the response I always get is that we need more government--people that will do the 'right' thing.
And that is correct. So vote out the fuck wads and vote in the ones who do (the people's) bidding.
And how often does that happen?
The incumbent usually has so much money, the challenger can't compete.
Actually thats not true, Clinton defeated bush, the incumbent
The reason people are hesitant to vote out the incumbent is becuase they see things going well, or "good enough" and don't wanna take the chance on some one new. You can see this all the time in local elections as well
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luvdemshrooms
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I think you have unhealthy fetish with semantics.
It's unfortunate we all don't. Words have meaning.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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You're at the opposite end of the spectrum. You throw hissy fits all the time because people respond to what you say and not what you mean.
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luvdemshrooms
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Actually, I comment when people don't respond to what I actually said and instead comment on... what they make up. You know... like you so often do.
The lack of ability to understand the definition of words isn't a problem I share.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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The Ecstatic
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You dont share much of anything.
Youve been on this forum since I have and I still couldnt tell anyone where you stand on really any political issue.
All you ever do is argue semantics.
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luvdemshrooms
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The Ecstatic said: You dont share much of anything.
Sometimes... no. If I have nothing to say or add, I don't say anything.
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Youve been on this forum since I have and I still couldnt tell anyone where you stand on really any political issue.
I'd find that hard to believe but perhaps that's just a reflection of just how close to the middle I am. I can quite frequently see both sides of an issue. You could always ask but I suspect I'll offer up both sides of most issues. That's one of the advantages of not being a partisan hack.
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All you ever do is argue semantics.
I'll argue semantics right now... using 'all' in that sentence was monumentally stupid.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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The Ecstatic
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Forgive us mortals and our hyperbole.
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luvdemshrooms
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Why? Hyperbole does little other than make those who rely on it look stupid.
One need merely look at the hu of the right and the hu of the left. Both beclown themselves on a regular basis but aren't clever enough to realize it.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


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it seems outside of school the disruptive kids never get taken out of class, figuratively speaking. hmmm.
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luvdemshrooms
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That seems rather fortunate for you.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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akira_akuma
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seems like it's a substantial forswearing of rational debate in most walks of life, not just mine own. but thanks for the vote of confidence.
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The irony is that people are speaking out against LDS and no one is siding with him. Yet in his own mind he pretends he is the adult in the room. What has he contributed to this discussion?
Everyone here knows what it means when it is said corporations own the Government (including Enlil). For LDS, it means they have influence over politicians through campaign contributions.
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akira_akuma
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own, run -- pretty non-committal text. easily expunged and exchanged in lieu of a correction (and needless halting of the discussion) by interlocutor; due to the fact that the article is small and does not hardly change the instance of what is being discussed.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: The irony is that people are speaking out against LDS and no one is siding with him. Yet in his own mind he pretends he is the adult in the room. What has he contributed to this discussion?
Everyone here knows what it means when it is said corporations own the Government (including Enlil). For LDS, it means they have influence over politicians through campaign contributions.
Put me in LDS's corner then. Words do have meaning and we avoid fruitless arguments begotten by miscommunication by being precise with our language.
-------------------- 'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704
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akira_akuma
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ok, so the government is run and not owned by corporations, so can ya'll fucking move on now? k thanks.
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Crumist
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Don't look at me or LDS. Your fight is with Enlil. Or maybe it is with Falcon91Wolvrn03 for the attacks ad hominum.
-------------------- 'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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So you seriously had no clue that 'corporations own the Government' means 'corporations have influence over politicians through campaign contributions'? You thought we were being literal before the metaphor was explained to you? My apologies then.
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