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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588153 - 08/28/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Poll: Is there anyone else who really thinks That Government controls the Government?


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588159 - 08/28/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The citizens control the government.


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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
    #23588193 - 08/28/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The citizens control the government.





They really are doing a bang up job of it~~~!  But you are right.


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Re: Trump [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23588222 - 08/28/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

well. it seems there is an impasse here.

there is no way to blame the government for all of nation's problems if the nation is the government.

so no further actions can be taken. let's all go home, and eat Mac and Cheese and feel better.


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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #23588227 - 08/28/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The citizens control the government.




That's a worst answer then starfire_xes gave


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588231 - 08/28/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's the worst use of English I've seen in hours.


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588236 - 08/28/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

MONEY controls the government and corporation and banks control the money.


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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
    #23588237 - 08/28/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's the worst use of English I've seen in hours.




Now grammar counts?


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588255 - 08/28/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like paranoid rhetoric to me.


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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
    #23588269 - 08/28/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Actually, I don't know why some people, if you tell them that the people have the absolute power to remove who they want from government if they are NOT doing the people's will, well......  the response I always get is that we need more government--people that will do the 'right' thing.

And that is correct.  So vote out the fuck wads and vote in the ones who do (the people's) bidding.


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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
    #23588272 - 08/28/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'd rather have bad grammar then think the citizens control this government.


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588280 - 08/28/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They don't control it BY CHOICE.  Else why else would people vote in Senators and Congressmen for 30 or 40 years in spite of abject failure?


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Re: Trump [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23588284 - 08/28/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Actually, I don't know why some people, if you tell them that the people have the absolute power to remove who they want from government if they are NOT doing the people's will, well......  the response I always get is that we need more government--people that will do the 'right' thing.

And that is correct.  So vote out the fuck wads and vote in the ones who do (the people's) bidding.




And how often does that happen?

The incumbent usually has so much money, the challenger can't compete.


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588300 - 08/28/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Actually, I don't know why some people, if you tell them that the people have the absolute power to remove who they want from government if they are NOT doing the people's will, well......  the response I always get is that we need more government--people that will do the 'right' thing.

And that is correct.  So vote out the fuck wads and vote in the ones who do (the people's) bidding.




And how often does that happen?

The incumbent usually has so much money, the challenger can't compete.




Now you see the problem.  So if you get government people in who make up rules and regulations that help their industry buddies, what's the problem?

And that, by the way, is how the government works.  It's like the epi-pen thing.  They are expensive as shit, yet there are three or 4 competing companies making them.  But I will bet you what has happened is that there are rules and regs that are made up by government that favor the one manufacturer and limit competition.


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Re: Trump [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23588391 - 08/28/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And who put in those 'rules and regs' the people?


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588401 - 08/28/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The politicians.  So vote those fuckers out.  Hold there feet to the fire.  If people don't, then its not going to change.  If the politicians aren't honest, there is nothing yo can do to punish corporations that is going to change anything.

The corporations take advantage yes.  but they are the boogey man for the government.  The government points the finger at everyone except themselves.


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54]
    #23588421 - 08/28/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Duly elected representatives.


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Re: Trump [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23588718 - 08/28/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The MOST the 'average America' can hope is some bullshit meaningless day called "Average America Day", kinda like "Dog Day" that was last Friday. Other then that they don't give a shit about us, it's all about Corporate Government interests.



Fixed it for ya.



No, he was right the first time.

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...vote out the fuck wads and vote in the ones who do (the people's) bidding.



And how often does that happen?

The incumbent usually has so much money, the challenger can't compete.



Now you see the problem.  So if you get government people in who make up rules and regulations that help their industry buddies, what's the problem?

And that, by the way, is how the government works.  It's like the epi-pen thing.  They are expensive as shit, yet there are three or 4 competing companies making them.  But I will bet you what has happened is that there are rules and regs that are made up by government that favor the one manufacturer and limit competition.



You've just proven Sweeper correct - corporations own the Government.  :shrug:


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Re: Trump [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23588757 - 08/28/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think you have a serious misunderstanding of the concept of ownership.


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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
    #23588774 - 08/28/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think you have unhealthy fetish with semantics.


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