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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23489334 - 07/29/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Trump [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23489469 - 07/29/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like a continuation of "Reefer Madness" to me. From your article:

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Despite such anecdotes, there is scant hard data. Because of the lag in reporting many health statistics, it may take years to know legal marijuana’s effect — if any — on teenage drug use, school expulsions or the number of fatal car crashes.




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Marijuana supporters note that violent crimes in Denver — where the bulk of Colorado’s pot retailers are — are down so far this year. The number of robberies from January through April fell by 4.8 percent from the same time in 2013, and assaults were down by 3.7 percent. Over all, crime in Denver is down by about 10 percent, though it is impossible to say whether changes to marijuana laws played any role in that decline.





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On Colorado’s northern plains, for example, a fourth grader showed up on the playground one day in April and sold some of his grandmother’s marijuana to three classmates. The next day, one of those students returned the favor by bringing in a marijuana edible he had swiped from his own grandmother.


“This was kind of an unintended consequence of Colorado’s new law,” said John Gates, the district’s director of school safety and security. “For crying out loud, secure your weed. If you can legally possess it, that’s fine. But it has no place in an elementary school.”





This sort of thing was happening well before it was legalized.

There is no case against legalization here, in my view. The benefits are outweigh the potential negatives.


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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23489556 - 07/29/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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There is no case against legalization here, in my view. The benefits are outweigh the potential negatives.




I agree, yet Trump's 'bad reports' do indeed exist.


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Re: Trump [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23489705 - 07/29/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A reasonable mind would dismiss most of those as non-issues and not worth noting, him noting it shows that he is laying ground work to make a position on it (probably for the negative)


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Re: Trump [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23489721 - 07/29/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Bigbadwooof said:
There is no case against legalization here, in my view. The benefits are outweigh the potential negatives.




I agree, yet Trump's 'bad reports' do indeed exist.




Fair enough. I hadn't seen that 'data', though I should have assumed it existed, I suppose.


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Re: Trump [Re: twighead] * 1
    #23489737 - 07/29/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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A reasonable mind would dismiss most of those as non-issues and not worth noting, him noting it shows that he is laying ground work to make a position on it (probably for the negative)




That's how I see it also. I think The Ecstatic was on the money:

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The Ecstatic said:
So Trump's position is the same chicken shit tightrope walk that Clinton is taking: "oh we need to wait for more research."




The simplest route for a politician to avoid taking a position on controversial issues like this is to cloud the issue, and pussy foot around it, as Clinton always seems to do, and Trump has done in this instance.

I don't think Trump thinks terribly deeply about most issues in politics.


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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23489953 - 07/29/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
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twighead said:
A reasonable mind would dismiss most of those as non-issues and not worth noting, him noting it shows that he is laying ground work to make a position on it (probably for the negative)




That's how I see it also. I think The Ecstatic was on the money:

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
So Trump's position is the same chicken shit tightrope walk that Clinton is taking: "oh we need to wait for more research."




The simplest route for a politician to avoid taking a position on controversial issues like this is to cloud the issue, and pussy foot around it, as Clinton always seems to do, and Trump has done in this instance.

I don't think Trump thinks terribly deeply about most issues in politics.




He has never been a politician so he's not as polished as some of them, either way some politicians have rehearsed their positions better, I wouldn't call that thinking deeply about the issue.


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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
    #23490049 - 07/29/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
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Bigbadwooof said:
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twighead said:
A reasonable mind would dismiss most of those as non-issues and not worth noting, him noting it shows that he is laying ground work to make a position on it (probably for the negative)




That's how I see it also. I think The Ecstatic was on the money:

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
So Trump's position is the same chicken shit tightrope walk that Clinton is taking: "oh we need to wait for more research."




The simplest route for a politician to avoid taking a position on controversial issues like this is to cloud the issue, and pussy foot around it, as Clinton always seems to do, and Trump has done in this instance.

I don't think Trump thinks terribly deeply about most issues in politics.




He has never been a politician so he's not as polished as some of them, either way some politicians have rehearsed their positions better, I wouldn't call that thinking deeply about the issue.




I wasn't comparing him to other politicians. I was comparing him to people who care about politics. I personally have given deep thought to most of my positions. Trump hasn't bothered to do that. He just wants to be president, so he can feel special.


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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23490321 - 07/29/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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America is not a business. It is a country. You fucking Fascists.




You totally missed the comparison.


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Re: Trump [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23490347 - 07/29/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This thread amounts to a herd of cows standing in a pasture of their own shit mooing  at cows across the road.


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Re: Trump [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23490403 - 07/29/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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This thread amounts to a herd of cows standing in a pasture of their own shit mooing  at cows across the road.




Moo.


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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23492744 - 07/30/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Trump [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23494605 - 07/31/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23496109 - 07/31/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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No one's talking about the scandal anymore.  Hillary successfully deflected the issue by blaming Trump and the Russians.  :picard:




How can anyone be mad at the Russians, even if they do have ulterior motives? That doesn't absolve the DNC of guilt for what they have done.



I agree that even if Russia was involved, it doesn't absolve the DNC of anything.  But here's a good article showing there is no evidence that Russia was even involved, other than from an anonymous DNC contact.

Did Russian Intelligence Hack the DNC Servers?
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Who Are These Experts?

The only experts cited work for a company hired by the Democratic National Committee to investigate the hack. There is no indication of any neutral third party investigation.




(note, the article above is from 27 Jun; I'm catching up on news and will post any updates if I see them)


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Re: Trump [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23496176 - 07/31/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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even though i am not supporting any of the candidates this year i think anyone who went from bernie to hillary is a sell out


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Re: Trump [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23496343 - 07/31/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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even though i am not supporting any of the candidates this year i think anyone who went from bernie to hillary is a sell out




Well Trump and Jill has some of the same views as Bernie. If you had fell for the media's brainwashing game that they has done to make Trump look so evil, then why doesn't you support Jill the one the media hides?


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Re: Trump [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23496463 - 07/31/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

voting third party does nothing beneficial for the country, and trust me I when I say I wish that wasnt the truth but it is


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Re: Trump [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23496576 - 07/31/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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voting third party does nothing beneficial for the country, and trust me I when I say I wish that wasnt the truth but it is




Third parties focus attention on issues and ideas. Sometimes they draw enough support to affect the outcome of elections. Sometimes a third party gains part of its goals by supporting a major party that promises to act on the third party's views.
After the Civil War, Americans debated issues such as women's voting rights and labor reform. New political parties helped focus attention on these issues. In 1872, for example, Victoria Woodhull became the first woman to run for president. She shared the Equal Rights Party ticket with African American leader Frederick Douglass. In the 1890s the People's Party of the U.S.A., or Populists, drew support from laborers and farmers.
In 1912 a disagreement among Republicans produced a splinter group called the Progressive, or "Bull Moose," Party. Theodore Roosevelt, the party's presidential candidate, outpolled the Republican candidate, William H. Taft. But the Republican split only helped the Democratic candidate, Woodrow Wilson, win the election. The Progressive Party's name was revived in the 1920s. The Progressives opposed big business monopolies and favored the interests of farmers and workers. The Socialist Party favored wider social welfare measures. It reached its greatest strength in the 1930s, during the Great Depression. http://www.scholastic.com/teachers/article/origins-and-functions-political-parties





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Re: Trump [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23496587 - 07/31/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They need to open the debate floors to some of the top major third party candidates, at least two of them


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