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Douglas Howard
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One of the purposes of building the wall is to make the neighboring countries have an better screening process of their own citizens and tourists, to help prevent terrorists from entering into this country. And there's a lot of undocumented immigrants that are entering as well, that they are committing serious crimes here and then they flees back to their country to prevent from getting caught and then come back into this country under a new name like Father Hildago or something like that. The way they I.D's someone in their country is by if someone recognizes ever seeing them; but giving others a few bucks, they will say anything that they want them to say. the Mexican's people are uncivilized as we are, but we can track our citizens down if they has committed an uncivilized act.
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i'm not so sure you understood my post, which is ironic.
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Douglas Howard said: One of the purposes of building the wall is to make the neighboring countries have an better screening process of their own citizens and tourists, to help prevent terrorists from entering into this country. And there's a lot of undocumented immigrants that are entering as well, that they are committing serious crimes here and then they flees back to their country to prevent from getting caught and then come back into this country under a new name like Father Hildago or something like that. The way they I.D's someone in their country is by if someone recognizes ever seeing them; but giving others a few bucks, they will say anything that they want them to say. the Mexican's people are uncivilized as we are, but we can track our citizens down if they has committed an uncivilized act.
Finally some fucking sanity on this issue
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he didn't even respond to anything. i am A-OK with a wall...it's perfectly reasonable if that's what people want. it's a bit hypocritical after the Berlin wall, and America's pride about that whole event, but that's piddling in comparison to the democratic vote.
so what the fuck sanity is being brought "finally to the issue"?
he didn't even address anything i said. IDing mexicans?
ok, yeah, i see his conjecture, but i wasn't talking about mexicans in their own country...what the hell kind of diversion is that? how is that fucking sane? are you concerned with how mexico tracks their people? wtf sense is that?
who the fuck is gonna keep the fucking ID if they fucking went back to mexico? what purpose would that serve to keep the ID if it could connect them to crimes in america?
WTF@!?
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akira_akuma said: he didn't even respond to anything. i am A-OK with a wall...it's perfectly reasonable if that's what people want. it's a bit hypocritical after the Berlin wall, and America's pride about that whole event, but that's piddling in comparison to the democratic vote.
so what the fuck sanity is being brought "finally to the issue"?
The Berlin Wall was to keep citizens in, big difference, ours would be to keep criminals from other countries out. How progressives cannot see that is mind boggling.
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you are completely daft. they aren't being KEPT IN shitheel. east and west germans were not being KEPT IN, they were SEPARATED. you absolute gorm.
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akira_akuma said: you are completely daft. they aren't being KEPT IN shitheel. east and west germans were not being KEPT IN, they were SEPARATED. you absolute gorm.
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Douglas Howard
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akira_akuma said: i'm not so sure you understood my post, which is ironic.
I understand your post, but you have to realize that they are trying to defame Trump by trying to paint a picture of him as being a racist and what so ever. And Trump is right, that he can make the Mexican government to pay for that wall or help finance it by threatening to embargoed them, because they are a threat to national security by not having capability of policing their own citizens. If corporate america can have the government to place an embargoed on Cuba, and which a lot of countries has complied with it; and so Trump should be able to do the same also. Unless, that the government has never had power at all, but corporate america was the ones that was pulling the strings in the past.
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akira_akuma said: yeah, and how do you propose that you round-up immigrants without due process when there are immigrants legally living in the US? how do you vet this process, smart guy?
Where did I say ANYTHING about rounding up immigrants legally living in the US, and where did I say ANything about denying rounded up people due process DUMB GUY?
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i didn't say you said anything as such, DUMB GUY.
so let me repeat the question i actually laid to you: how do you propose that you round-up immigrants without due process when there are immigrants legally living in the US? how do you vet this process?
cause that's what Trump says he's gonna do. next time when you play the interlocutor, try to get the context right. i'm talking to HU about Trumps rhetoric about the wall.
so let me frame it a different way: how do you propose that you round-up immigrants with due process when there are immigrants legally living in the US? how do you vet this process?
to clarify: you need due process, but that means you cannot simply round up illegals.
so if you can answer the question, we'll all be grateful for your interjection, in the end.
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That is simple DUMB GUY. Since immigrants are required to have their residence on file with the INS, you simply go to any residence that has an immigrant with A) A visa that has been overstayed, or B) an INS required hearing that was missed, place them in a INS holding tank for a hearing with a judge. If they have violated their status, they are out of here with respect to the law.
Anyone who is here illegally, and has been identified, you simply pick them up and place them in an INS holding tank until the hearing, at which point if they are here illegally, they will be removed from the US.
Third--the US government has the RIGHT to revoke the visa of any immigrant in the US with or without due cause at any time. So if the US government wants to revoke the visas of ALL muslim immigrants, it can do such, and they have no recourse. Yes, they will get due process--a hearing--but the fact that being here on a VISA is a privilege, NOT a right, means an order by the government for them to leave is legal.
There ya go. And you think Trump is stupid? He OWNS people like you who think they are clever spewing nonsense about 'rights'
And it shows what the real problem with immigration is--the laws currently aren't being enforced.
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he doesn't own shit. saying he does just proves how immense you are... in your density.
anyone i can ... well, he might be president so i'll watch my tongue.
but yeah, you know who is on file: no shit. what about the insistence on rounding up people who aren't on file?
basically, what you're saying is: everything is already working.
so ok then. things work like they are supposed to. you build a wall, people find less ways available to get in; your best prospect is a wall. that's Trump's winning strategy. oh and already having been a businessman, who needn't funds to make his campaign happen (which is just more of the typical pompous overreach in Trumps rhetoric -- as he takes donations of course, he just doesn't "need them".).
so yeah...what is your fucking point again? that TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP? no, that can't be, you're a Cruz guy....
so what is it? what are you trying to tell me, mr. interlocutor, what are you informing of exactly? that immigration already keeps track of people who are immigrants? that we need to build a wall? what is it?
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Interesting read friends.. always remember your vote REALLY counts in this democratic free nation
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hostileuniverse said: I guess these guys couldn't find a job picking fruit, only a matter of time until progressives come to their defense
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/03/illegals_held_in_vicious_framingham_rape
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Federal immigration officials are requesting detainers on four illegal aliens accused of a heinous attack on a Framingham couple in which the woman was raped and her boyfriend was beaten and threatened with death, the Herald has learned.
Two of the illegals had previously been deported to Guatemala, said Immigration and
Customs Enforcement spokesman Shawn Neudauer.
Build the fucking wall.
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akira_akuma said: you are completely daft. they aren't being KEPT IN shitheel. east and west germans were not being KEPT IN, they were SEPARATED. you absolute gorm.
Gorm? lol
... You're not wrong though lol!
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hostileuniverse said: I guess these guys couldn't find a job picking fruit, only a matter of time until progressives come to their defense
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/03/illegals_held_in_vicious_framingham_rape
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Federal immigration officials are requesting detainers on four illegal aliens accused of a heinous attack on a Framingham couple in which the woman was raped and her boyfriend was beaten and threatened with death, the Herald has learned.
Two of the illegals had previously been deported to Guatemala, said Immigration and
Customs Enforcement spokesman Shawn Neudauer.
Build the fucking wall.
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Trump will not be president. The Republican party has already said they won't allow him to be nominated.
They're going to work with him.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/21/trump-reportedly-to-meet-with-top-republicans-in-washington.html
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hostileuniverse said: I guess these guys couldn't find a job picking fruit, only a matter of time until progressives come to their defense
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/03/illegals_held_in_vicious_framingham_rape
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Federal immigration officials are requesting detainers on four illegal aliens accused of a heinous attack on a Framingham couple in which the woman was raped and her boyfriend was beaten and threatened with death, the Herald has learned.
Two of the illegals had previously been deported to Guatemala, said Immigration and
Customs Enforcement spokesman Shawn Neudauer.
Build the fucking wall.
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Trump will not be president. The Republican party has already said they won't allow him to be nominated.
It is hard to find an honest businessman; and so why is it is so hard for them to dig up trash against Trump? Obama had the democrat party to protect him, but all of the parties is against Trump but they are unable to find any dirt on him that can detour his supporters from voting for him.
Republican Leaders Map a Strategy to Derail Donald Trump
Republican leaders adamantly opposed to Donald J. Trump’s candidacy are preparing a 100-day campaign to deny him the presidential nomination, starting with an aggressive battle in Wisconsin’s April 5 primary and extending into the summer, with a delegate-by-delegate lobbying effort that would cast Mr. Trump as a calamitous choice for the general election.
Recognizing that Mr. Trump has seized a formidable advantage in the race, they say that an effort to block him would rely on an array of desperation measures, the political equivalent of guerrilla fighting. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html?_r=0
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basically, what you're saying is: everything is already working.
HERE WAS MY POINT--here IS WHAT I SAID--it is exactly the opposite of what you think I said.
'And it shows what the real problem with immigration is--the laws currently aren't being enforced.'
you not only ramble on like a schizophrenic on a street corner, practically incomprehensible, you can't read either.
why don't you do everyone a favor and see a doctor? You are an annoyance.
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