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Re: Trump [Re: Douglas Howard] * 1
    #23022602 - 03/19/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

NEW YORK — Donald Trump’s railing about what’s wrong in corporate America goes further than the typical political populism: He vows to rewrite trade deals, tax imports and punish U.S. companies. And he’s naming names.
He is blasting Ford for beefing up operations abroad. He’s refusing to eat Oreo cookies that may soon be made in Mexico and is vowing to get Apple to make iPhones in the U.S.

“You know, our companies are leaving our country rapidly,” the GOP front-runner said in Palm Beach, Florida, after winning the state’s Republican primary on Tuesday. “And frankly, I’m disgusted.”

Politicians and others have long laid into U.S. companies for shifting headquarters and production abroad and for stockpiling cash in foreign subsidiaries. But changing some of the trade and taxes rules behind such corporate moves are beyond the authority of the president and, experts say, are not so easy to do — at least not without big consequences.

Here’s a look at Trump’s statements on what’s ailing big U.S. companies, and his proposed fixes:

Overseas production

Trump pledged to give up Oreos after Nabisco’s parent, Mondelez International, said it would replace nine production lines in Chicago with four in Mexico. He said he would demand that United Technologies reverse a decision to move two of its Carrier heating and ventilating parts plants in Indiana to Mexico, eliminating 2,100 U.S. jobs. He has criticized Ford since last summer after the company said it planned to invest $2.5 billion in engine and transmission plants in Mexico.

Other candidates have criticized the trade deals that facilitate some of these corporate moves, but Trump has gone further. He’s threatened to slap a 45 percent tariff on Chinese imports. He’s threatened to tax auto parts and other equipment made in Mexico. He also wants to scrap the North American Free Trade Agreement struck with Mexico and Canada in 1994. His view: The U.S. hasn’t gotten enough concessions in negotiations, and American jobs have been lost and wages hammered as a result.

“We’re being killed on trade — absolutely destroyed,” Trump says.

The U.S. has long been open economy, and specific trade deals like NAFTA have not had a major effect on jobs, economists say. The huge wage gap between the U.S. and developing countries and the increasing use of machines to replace workers have had a far bigger impact.

What’s more, Trump’s threats could throw the international trading system into chaos. Levying tariffs would probably require congressional approval and could set off a tit-for-tat trade war, an ironic development since it’s the U.S. that pushed for open trade over the years.  http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-faces-obstacles-in-bid-to-shake-up-corporate-america/


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Re: Trump [Re: Douglas Howard] * 1
    #23022641 - 03/19/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

The American Enterprise Institute held its annual World Forum on St. Simons Island, Georgia, on Sunday. Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, said in an email that attendees were focused on finding a way to stop Trump, the Huffington Post reported Monday. --------------

“It was a circle, and they were sitting around the circle, and they were all telling each other or asking each other, ‘How the hell did this happen?’ And it’s an understandable thing. They think they run the world. They think they control these things. And out of the blue comes the Trumpster,” said Limbaugh. “You got all these tech CEOs and all these left-wing inventors and tech people with these Republicans? That’s crony capitalism right in front of your face, or crony socialism.”




Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/tech-titans-gop-elite-plot-trump-attack-on-private-island/#KZWtMJQfRWcVswHg.99


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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23022681 - 03/19/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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I maintain that Trump entered the race to do two things:

1. appeal to the lowest common denominator GOP voter, drowning out establishment contenders

2. use idiotic rhetoric to scare the rest of the country into voting for Hillary.



Nobody foresaw Bernie, but the establishment is throwing sinks at him. The rest is working like a charm.


Honestly, at this point, does anyone besides the gullible trumpster sluts dispute it?

"No oooo wwaaaayyyy, the establishment would never collude!" And make no mistake, Trump is part of the establishment. He's never held public office, great. Neither has David Koch or Sheldon Adelson.




"Trump is part of the establishment"

The establishment never wanted a candidate to talk about their main little dirty secrets- 1. Global trade agreements. 2. Immigration.

We are talking about costing the elite trillions of dollars, this isn't something they wanted discussed. Trump has betrayed the establishment.

Now if you want to make the argument that Trump if elected is going to betray his supporters, that might make sense. Time will tell.


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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23022682 - 03/19/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

It really isn't though :facepalm:


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Re: Trump [Re: Webster10]
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Re: Trump [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23022922 - 03/19/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
I maintain that Trump entered the race to do two things:

1. appeal to the lowest common denominator GOP voter, drowning out establishment contenders

2. use idiotic rhetoric to scare the rest of the country into voting for Hillary.



Nobody foresaw Bernie, but the establishment is throwing sinks at him. The rest is working like a charm.


Honestly, at this point, does anyone besides the gullible trumpster sluts dispute it?

"No oooo wwaaaayyyy, the establishment would never collude!" And make no mistake, Trump is part of the establishment. He's never held public office, great. Neither has David Koch or Sheldon Adelson.




I think what has happened with Donald Trump couldn't have been predicted. It seems to me that voters are fickle, and if there was a clear route to building the kind of support Trump has, politicians would have already been doing that. Who would have thought that race-baiting, making fun of veterans, and trashtalking women was the key to the R nomination? I didn't think they were THAT low!

I'm not much into conspiracy shit, though, I suppose if they had gotten the media on-board, it would make more sense. The media made Trump. Apparently he's gotten over $2 Billion worth of free air time.


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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23023537 - 03/19/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

The main issue is that the establishment is going bat-shit crazy over all the outsiders...its for one reason only--they know if an outsider gets in, the gravy train is coming to an end.

Someone made a point on radio that if there were three or four legitimate parties with good nominees running, the Money Man wouldn't know who to give his money to.


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Re: Trump [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #23023584 - 03/19/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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The main issue is that the establishment is going bat-shit crazy over all the outsiders...its for one reason only--they know if an outsider gets in, the gravy train is coming to an end.

Someone made a point on radio that if there were three or four legitimate parties with good nominees running, the Money Man wouldn't know who to give his money to.




The money man would just give money to all of them. Their return on investment is exponential.


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Re: Trump [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23023648 - 03/19/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
Quote:

starfire_xes said:
The main issue is that the establishment is going bat-shit crazy over all the outsiders...its for one reason only--they know if an outsider gets in, the gravy train is coming to an end.

Someone made a point on radio that if there were three or four legitimate parties with good nominees running, the Money Man wouldn't know who to give his money to.




The money man would just give money to all of them. Their return on investment is exponential.





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If he had a rich man in his hand
And who would steal the candy
From a laughing baby's mouth
If he could take it from the money man?"


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Re: Trump [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23023654 - 03/19/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

people liberally taking candy out of babies mouths. :shun:


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23023659 - 03/19/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

you know what he is referring to dont you?


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Re: Trump [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23023668 - 03/19/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

teh government.

sounds like Woodie Gutherie some somethnig.


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23024217 - 03/19/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

If you hate Trump, you have the GOP to blame. If you love Trump, you have the GOP to thank. The GOP has been shitting on its voters since Reagan, and it's about time they said enough.


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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23027748 - 03/20/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I guess these guys couldn't find a job picking fruit, only a matter of time until progressives come to their defense

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/03/illegals_held_in_vicious_framingham_rape

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Federal immigration officials are requesting detainers on four illegal aliens accused of a heinous attack on a Framingham couple in which the woman was raped and her boyfriend was beaten and threatened with death, the Herald has learned.

Two of the illegals had previously been deported to Guatemala, said Immigration and 
Customs Enforcement spokesman Shawn Neudauer.




Build the fucking wall.

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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23027868 - 03/20/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

come to the defence of that singular case in particular? nah. i don't think so.


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23028067 - 03/20/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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come to the defence of that singular case in particular? nah. i don't think so.




So you support the wall?


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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23028118 - 03/20/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

actually, i've said many times i'm not against the wall. the prospect is utterly ridiculous to me that Trump proposes a wall, because i don't think it's going to help, and i think it'll be miserable failure, but not against the idea in principal, no; and the idea that anyone will "make" Mexico pay for it is patently absurd. what i am against is the mass deportation and round-up of immigrants. that's the only thing i'm against...oh and ID'ing people based on religion. creed sure, Jihadists and known criminals are obviously targets and aren't to be free citizens, that's insane. but on principal, the constitution states that these are rights that shall not be infringed: religious freedom and due process.


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23028224 - 03/20/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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actually, i've said many times i'm not against the wall. the prospect is utterly ridiculous to me that Trump proposes a wall, because i don't think it's going to help, and i think it'll be miserable failure, but not against the idea in principal, no; and the idea that anyone will "make" Mexico pay for it is patently absurd. what i am against is the mass deportation and round-up of immigrants. that's the only thing i'm against...oh and ID'ing people based on religion. creed sure, Jihadists and known criminals are obviously targets and aren't to be free citizens, that's insane. but on principal, the constitution states that these are rights that shall not be infringed: religious freedom and due process.




People attempting to enter the US have no rights to anything except the right to apply to enter the US.  The US can deny entry based on anything it wants.


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Re: Trump [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23028249 - 03/20/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, and how do you propose that you round-up immigrants without due process when there are immigrants legally living in the US? how do you vet this process, smart guy?


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23028280 - 03/20/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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yeah, and how do you propose that you round-up immigrants without due process when there are immigrants legally living in the US? how do you vet this process, smart guy?




If their visas are expired, they are no longer living here legally. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that


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