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InvisibleTakethatdarwin
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Re: Trump [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23945894 - 12/21/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Labels only stand to divide us. We are one thing made up of a multitude of options and possibilities.

When you polarize labels like what has happened with politics or racial attitudes it is only serving to split up that which is really whole.

Luckily the polarized narratives have become so offensive that people are beginning to see it as a tactic of divide and conquer from the ruling classes


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23945897 - 12/21/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Peteyboy said:
No you increase the demand for engineers by stimulating industries that require them. F.e. Trump's plan to boost infrastructure...:jah:



Trump can outdo Elon Musk, surely.

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Takethatdarwin said:
Labels only stand to divide us. We are one thing made up of a multitude of options and possibilities.

When you polarize labels like what has happened with politics or racial attitudes it is only serving to split up that which is really whole.

Luckily the polarized narratives have become so offensive that people are beginning to see it as a tactic of divide and conquer from the ruling classes



:androidlol:


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23945998 - 12/21/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe all these people advocating for illegals can also advocate for lowering taxes so we CAN compete with them?

"NAh, death to the middle class!" Said every progressive ever

***assholes


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Re: Trump [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23946043 - 12/21/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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When the US is graduating double the amount of (for example engineering) students that is needed, would you suggest the recent graduates don't have the ability to compete?  No, it would be too many people competing for too few of job openings.



needs more regulation.

:yesnod:




No you increase the demand for engineers by stimulating industries that require them. F.e. Trump's plan to boost infrastructure...:jah:




That's in a perfect world, at this moment graduating more engineers does NOT create more engineering work.

Same with accountants, MBA's, chemists, ect.


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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
    #23946103 - 12/21/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You do realize that having too many low-skilled workers actually creates too many high-skilled workers after a period of time?



I didn't realize that.  Do you have evidence for this?


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Re: Trump [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23946142 - 12/21/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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qman said:
You do realize that having too many low-skilled workers actually creates too many high-skilled workers after a period of time?



I didn't realize that.  Do you have evidence for this?




You don't think people obtained more skills and education to avoid the low-skilled labor market in the past 35 years?

"Do you have evidence for this?"

Playing dumb again?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States

There was a day and time when low-skilled workers made very good wages in the US, there was no point in spending large sums of money for higher education to get a decent paying job.


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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
    #23946162 - 12/21/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Asking for evidence of something isn't "playing dumb".

And you haven't proven there are "too many high skilled workers".


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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23946168 - 12/21/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Maybe all these people advocating for illegals can also advocate for lowering taxes so we CAN compete with them?

"NAh, death to the middle class!" Said every progressive ever

***assholes



no one is advocating for illegals, wrong again.


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23946894 - 12/21/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Apparently capitalism is great when it comes to everything except labor.

I cant compete with spanish speaking illegal criminals, and thats bullshit.



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I'm advocating for the eradication of scarcity, since we're apparently playing fantasy wish list.




Thank you.


We cant just eliminate all the people who make problems for one's idealistic society. We have to work within the bounds of reality.



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qman said:
When the US is graduating double the amount of (for example engineering) students that is needed, would you suggest the recent graduates don't have the ability to compete?  No, it would be too many people competing for too few of job openings.




Nice point, qman. This really is the current socioeconomic crisis. The way it was dealt with in the past was to require more and more specialty degrees which acted like a reducing valve for the economy -- fewer job applicants keeps things relatively orderly. Now, everyone and his dog has a master's degree, and Ph.D.'s seem to be going for a dime a dozen these days. The system of using graduate degrees to maintain employment sanity is starting to fail. I read a while back that, in terms of academia itself, there are over 80 Ph.D.'s for every 1 teaching position in this country. Just goes to show it doesn't mean as much anymore.

And so we have an even worse crisis on our hands.




Indeed, but, short of mass sterilizations, we arent going to reduce the number of job applicants. Especially considering the jobs themselves are disappearing at an exponential rate.

We have GOT to accept that the jobless economy is coming, and create a system that provides a just society for all of us. Especially in modernized nations like our own.

To me, thats either a huge tax on businesses and the wealthy ro subsidize a UBI, or simply outright socialism.



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hostileuniverse said:
Maybe all these people advocating for illegals can also advocate for lowering taxes so we CAN compete with them?

"NAh, death to the middle class!" Said every progressive ever

***assholes



no one is advocating for illegals, wrong again.




You were saying?


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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23946942 - 12/21/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

durka dur


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Re: Trump [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #23947009 - 12/21/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

if you can't point to A and have someone see A, then what's the point? i guess he needs to go to school to learn A.

people are so funny. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Trump [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23947727 - 12/21/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
if you can't point to A and have someone see A, then what's the point? i guess he needs to go to school to learn A.

people are so funny. :cookiemonster:



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durka dur




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Re: Trump [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23947732 - 12/21/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

echolalia? that's your response? repeating what people say?

you seem to do that alot.


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23947738 - 12/21/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

echolalia? that's your response? repeating what people say?

you seem to do that alot.


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Re: Trump [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23947741 - 12/21/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:jackiechanofapproval:


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23947746 - 12/21/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

had to be done


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Re: Trump [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23947752 - 12/21/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:atreyu: sometimes you just gotta ride the wind.


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Re: Trump [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23951620 - 12/23/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Harvard professor says there are 'grave concerns' about Donald Trump's mental stability

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Three leading professors of psychiatry have written to Barack Obama to express their “grave concern” over Donald Trump’s mental stability.

In the letter addressed to the US president, doctors from Harvard Medical School and the University of California have urged him to order a “full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation” before the President-elect takes office in January.
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“Nevertheless, his widely reported symptoms of mental instability — including grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality — lead us to question his fitness for the immense responsibilities of the office.”






:lol: you gotta (nervously) laugh!


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Re: Trump [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #23952573 - 12/23/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It says a lot about the people who voted for him.


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Re: Trump [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #23952753 - 12/23/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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It says a lot about the people who voted for him.





No, it says a lot about how bad Hillary was as a candidate.


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