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Peteyboy said: Those people that wrote the letter are establishment cronies....the battle has just begun for Trump...Russia is not what they used to be, they are no longer communist...that was the threat that Russia posed to America in the cold war era. It was Capitalism vs Communism...now Russia is transitioning into a capitalist economy, why would we not help them rise out of the ashes of the communist era, especially if they want to be out ally and help obtain world peace!
I can agree with this. 
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Peteyboy said: Isn't that what all these crazy leftists are always screaming about anyway?! Russia is not a threat to us militarily....outside of their missiles(tech the Clinton's sold to them) their capabilities pale in comparison to ours.
"Crazy lefties"? You must be new to this forum. And no, Clinton did not sell missile technology to Russia. Russia has always been ahead of the US in missile technology (they launched the first ICBM, launched the first satellite, put the first monkey in space, put the first human in orbit, and had the first moon landing (non manned). I agree that Russia isn't a hostile country (unless we threaten them), but don't underestimate Russia's technology.
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Peteyboy said: Russia is the only country actively attacking ISIS, IMO they are taking the lead in the global war on terror. They banned Monsanto, they have a warrant out for Soros arrest, they pulled out of the UN, they pulled out of the carbon tax scam, They are taking the high ground and have been leading the assault on the globalists.
Russia did not pull out of the UN, and carbon taxes are not a scam. 
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Peteyboy said: The notice for war is because Soros has a personal grudge with Russia. He also wants a one world government and that is not possible with a strong independent Western world. Europe has fallen already, it is completely dominated b6 the Globalists. The last bastion of independence and liberty and capitalism is America. Hence why the estavlishment can't allow a populist capitalist into office. Trump wants a strong independent America which is the anti thesis to Soros world plan. Pitkin wants a strong independent Russia, also the anti thesis to Soros plan. So Soros is trying to pit his two biggest problems against one another. It's the easiest solution to an uncontrollable problem...let us destroy eachother. Hence why Hillary was being pushed by Soros and the establishment, because she would go to war with Russia, that's the motive, to proceed with Agenda 21 and form a one world government.
This is heavy conspiracy theory.
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Peteyboy said: Global warming and carbon taxes are the biggest scam humanity has ever faced.
You reject science?
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BeLove111 said: I'm beginning to really love Russia, never thought I'd say that. They don't take shit, they have a lot of connected people over there. There is a huge shamanic culture there as well which I respect. Glad we have a president who will mend ties with them. It's not the fucking 80's anymore.
Ya, this is one thing I like about Trump.
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indeed. fostering relations with Russia is a good idea. but peeps have to be smart about it; this it to say, that we can't just give them the leg up and prop them up...but we certainly should try and foster peaceably relations. so, given the proper timing, those sanctions can be dropped, and we can work with them on building their infrastructure, which Trump could easily help with.
i like that Trump, also, is forgoing some of the more materialistic aspects of running the oval office. seems to be in the right in those respects. he wants to protect his families future- go about this the right way, and he's a winner- at least in those respects.
people can make mistakes. we gotta see how things go.
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akira_akuma said: indeed. fostering relations with Russia is a good idea. but peeps have to be smart about it; this it to say, that we can't just give them the leg up and prop them up...but we certainly should try and foster peaceably relations. so, given the proper timing, those sanctions can be dropped, and we can work with them on building their infrastructure, which Trump could easily help with.
i like that Trump, also, if forgoing some of the more materialistic aspects of running the oval office. seems to be in the right in those respects. he wants to protect his families future- go about this the right way, and he's a winner- at least in those respects.
people can make mistakes. we gotta see how things go.
It's amazing, (well not really because progressives are stupid) that some people can support Obumble for building relationships with Iran and Cuba and then bash Trum for doing the same with Russia
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building rapport with Cuba is a fantastic idea...they lived under their shitty regime for long enough, and they are productive citizens; and fostering peaceable relations with Iran is a no-brainer, considering they've hated our collective western guts, if we can swing them to be more friendly to us, then that's only a good thing. Russia all the same- it's just that they play the chessboard...Iran and Cuba never had a chance...but Russia has always aimed to meet the US half-way, if not overtake the US, as a superpower. this is the notion that people worry for- that Russia will switch up their game and go on the offensive.
Trump should also foster relations with Taiwan,- and China can just deal with it.
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akira_akuma said: building rapport with Cuba is a fantastic idea...they lived under their shitty regime for long enough, and they are productive citizens; and fostering peaceable relations with Iran is a no-brainer, considering they've hated our collective western guts, if we can swing them to be more friendly to us, then that's only a good thing. Russia all the same- it's just that they play the chessboard...Iran and Cuba never had a chance...but Russia has always aimed to meet the US half-way, if not overtake the US, as a superpower. this is the notion that people worry for- that Russia will switch up their game and go on the offensive.
Trump should also foster relations with Taiwan,- and China can just deal with it.
I agree with everything you said
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stomach bug.
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You are all a herd of fucking sheep!
Putin and Russia are the evil empire.
So look in Putin's eyes and see a friend, while Twitter in Chief sucks his dick, know that he was personally involved in using the leaked material
Their Main Battle Tank is better then ours.
This man wants the power and the glory of the former USSR and to think we can be friends is naive.
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sweeper54 said: You are all a herd of fucking sheep!
Putin and Russia are the evil empire.
So look in Putin's eyes and see a friend, while Twitter in Chief sucks his dick, know that he was personally involved in using the leaked material
Their Main Battle Tank is better then ours.
This man wants the power and the glory of the former USSR and to think we can be friends is naive.
So you prefer war?
What should trump do? Make nice or make war?
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go to war with Canada instead. it'd be fun.
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akira_akuma said: go to war with Canada instead. it'd be fun.
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if you make it into the hills and forests, i'll see ya get fucked by bears. (don't come in the winter, either.)
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akira_akuma said: if you make it into the hills and forests, i'll see ya get fucked by bears. (don't come in the winter, either.)
Wouldn't need to, 70% of Canadians live within 100 miles of America, we'd barely have to travel
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sweeper54 said: You are all a herd of fucking sheep!
Putin and Russia are the evil empire.
So look in Putin's eyes and see a friend, while Twitter in Chief sucks his dick, know that he was personally involved in using the leaked material
Their Main Battle Tank is better then ours.
This man wants the power and the glory of the former USSR and to think we can be friends is naive.
So you prefer war?
What should trump do? Make nice or make war?
Cyber yes and try to pry the TIC's lips off Putin's dick.
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Bernice stil sucks
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akira_akuma said: go to war with Canada instead. it'd be fun.
nah, Canada's doing fine. We need to invade Mexico. So many problems solved in one fell swoop.
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sweeper54 said: You are all a herd of fucking sheep!
Putin and Russia are the evil empire.
So look in Putin's eyes and see a friend, while Twitter in Chief sucks his dick, know that he was personally involved in using the leaked material
Their Main Battle Tank is better then ours.
This man wants the power and the glory of the former USSR and to think we can be friends is naive.
Lol considering your biggest point on the topic is "Their MBT is better than ours" I'd say you have a looooooot more research to do before you have the privilege of calling people "SHEEPLEZ"
Don't idiots who use that word usually actually like reading the truth regardless of where it's derived from?
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akira_akuma said: if you make it into the hills and forests, i'll see ya get fucked by bears. (don't come in the winter, either.)
Wouldn't need to, 70% of Canadians live within 100 miles of America, we'd barely have to travel
evacuation is quick. we'd know if your fucking military was staging a coup, and then our forces would deploy in the forest ya freakin' hoser. plus that's forgetting the further abject foolish of initiating the monarchy on your ass again...i thought you guys feared nuclear death? that was how Hilary lost.
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sweeper54 said:
Their Main Battle Tank is better then ours.
This man wants the power and the glory of the former USSR
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/pay-attention-america-russia-upgrading-its-military-15094
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Russia is also modernizing its general-purpose forces, having set itself a goal of making 70 percent of the army’s equipment modern by 2020

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First, it is not clear how much progress Moscow is making in closing the technology gap with Western militaries. Some capabilities are indeed modern, such as the sea-launched cruise missiles that the Russian Navy launched late last year against targets in Syria. Of course, that was a capability that the U.S. Navy demonstrated in force against Iraq in 1991.

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A weak budget prevented the Russian military from conducting much modernization between 1991 and 2005. That could prove to be a crucial factor again. Faced with low oil prices and Western economic sanctions, the Russian economy contracted by nearly 4 percent in 2015. Most analysts expect it to contract further in 2016.

lets not worry too much about Russia's military. Oh, they have a better tank? How on earth are they gonna get it to this hemisphere?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Navy#Ships_and_Submarines
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Russia's only existing carrier, the Soviet era Admiral Kuznetsov will remain in service at least until 2030.[45]

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According to the Russian Defense Ministry, share of modern armament in the Navy has reached more than 50% in 2014.[38] A report from mid-July 2015 estimated the figure at nearly 40%.[39] The Steregushchiy class corvettes, the lead ship of which was laid down on 21 December 2001, is the first new surface construction since the collapse of the Soviet Union,[40] while the new Admiral Sergei Gorshkov class frigates marks the first attempt of the Navy to return to the construction of large blue water capable vessels.[41]

Yeah, definitely not worried about russian tanks.
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Scary!
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