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ballsalsa
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The Ecstatic said: Makes me just want to create a thread with a list of commonly held political positions, and have everyone quote it into a checklist. And then have everyone hotlink their response into their sig. Otherwise, we're just going to continue having people making assumptions about others' positions based on the labels we dole out.
Do it.
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The Ecstatic
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maybe trump and the ensuing shitshow/ restructuring of our government is what we need
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doomshroom88 said: maybe trump and the ensuing shitshow/ restructuring of our government is what we need
I think so. It's just out of control at this point. The media is working 24/7 to shut him down so they can have their globalist Hilary.
Forget the partisan disagreements and the left vs right arguments. We are talking about possibly the death of America with Hilary elected.
For those of you saying Trump has no policy plans. Both HRC and Trump have plans they have laid out, just check their websites (I have read about half of both).
I simply don't see anyone who can change it other than Trump. I actually like a lot of what he says, he is the only one willing to say the truth. To be fair Bernie spoke truth too but his policies were extreme and he got screwed as we know.
This election is bigger than right vs left, or Trump vs Hilary. It's about taking back our country, I don't understand how people can't see that.
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Rainman420 said:
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doomshroom88 said: maybe trump and the ensuing shitshow/ restructuring of our government is what we need
I think so. It's just out of control at this point. The media is working 24/7 to shut him down so they can have their globalist Hilary.
Forget the partisan disagreements and the left vs right arguments. We are talking about possibly the death of America with Hilary elected.
For those of you saying Trump has no policy plans. Both HRC and Trump have plans they have laid out, just check their websites (I have read about half of both).
I simply don't see anyone who can change it other than Trump. I actually like a lot of what he says, he is the only one willing to say the truth. To be fair Bernie spoke truth too but his policies were extreme and he got screwed as we know.
This election is bigger than right vs left, or Trump vs Hilary. It's about taking back our country, I don't understand how people can't see that.

And of course the Hillary supporters. These are people who HATE this country, they honestly believe the values that have made us prosperous, are racist, bigoted, unfair and hateful. They simply do not comprehend that the American way of life is great and good. They only see HATE, they are truly blinded by their ideology
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But even you can't possibly believe that the "American way of life" is ONLY good. You have to admit that there are many things about our way of life that does incredible damage to other nations and to subcultures within this nation.
I don't agree with those who would eliminate American exceptionalism, but I also don't agree with those who believe that exceptionalism should have no limits.
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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
#23733291 - 10/13/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gropey McGroper's victims are starting to come out of the woodwork. Here comes the deflection machine turned up to 11. Sad really.
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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
#23733295 - 10/13/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The American way of life is the best in the world. We have issues and we have worked through them. We are the ONLY nation to have gone to war with itself to end slavery. Yet, there are people who claim we are still racist. America is one of the few nations to have the elected a black president, and where blacks can be literally anything they want. Judges, lawyers, doctors, etc., and yet to hear some "people" talk, we are two steps away from bringing back slavery, it's stunning
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The Ecstatic
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hostileuniverse said: The American way of life is the best in the world.
By what metric?
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We are the ONLY nation to have gone to war with itself to end slavery
Is that supposed to be a virtue? Most nations eliminated slavery long before we did, and didnt need to kill a million of their own countrymen to accomplish it.
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Yet, there are people who claim we are still racist.
First, thats a nonsequitur. Just because we went to war over slavery doesnt mean theres no racism anymore. What about the half of the country that fought FOR slavery? They all stopped being racist at Appomattox? What about the century of jim crowe that followed? Either way, there is most certainly a troubling number of racists in this nation.
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America is one of the few nations to have the elected a black president, and where blacks can be literally anything they want.
Africa and Asia say hello.
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hostileuniverse said:
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Rainman420 said:
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doomshroom88 said: maybe trump and the ensuing shitshow/ restructuring of our government is what we need
I think so. It's just out of control at this point. The media is working 24/7 to shut him down so they can have their globalist Hilary.
Forget the partisan disagreements and the left vs right arguments. We are talking about possibly the death of America with Hilary elected.
For those of you saying Trump has no policy plans. Both HRC and Trump have plans they have laid out, just check their websites (I have read about half of both).
I simply don't see anyone who can change it other than Trump. I actually like a lot of what he says, he is the only one willing to say the truth. To be fair Bernie spoke truth too but his policies were extreme and he got screwed as we know.
This election is bigger than right vs left, or Trump vs Hilary. It's about taking back our country, I don't understand how people can't see that.

And of course the Hillary supporters. These are people who HATE this country, they honestly believe the values that have made us prosperous, are racist, bigoted, unfair and hateful. They simply do not comprehend that the American way of life is great and good. They only see HATE, they are truly blinded by their ideology
"These are people who HATE this country"
Some of them do.
"They only see HATE, they are truly blinded by their ideology"
They have been told everyday they are victims, despite the fact that they live better than 99% of the global population, it's a mental sickness.
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hostileuniverse said: We are the ONLY nation to have gone to war with itself to end slavery.
you must be so proud 
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Re: Trump [Re: Tipote]
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[Mod Edit] is prime example of what I believe, he only sees the bad, never the good in what America has done, we have freed more people from the bondage Of slavery AND poverty than most nations have, yet, we get no credit for it because so many nations "did it first" or are perceived to have done it better, like q said, we live better than most
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hostileuniverse said: We are the ONLY nation to have gone to war with itself to end slavery.
you must be so proud 
Ecstatic is on point - as always.
This post added nothing positive to the convo
This post was only to troll, i demand he be banned!
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hostileuniverse said:
This post was only to troll, i demand he be banned!
Instead, you get banned for calling him "spastic". Congrats.
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Spastic is prime example of what I believe, he only sees the bad, never the good in what America has done, we have freed more people from the bondage Of slavery AND poverty than most nations have, yet, we get no credit for it because so many nations "did it first" or are perceived to have done it better, like q said, we live better than most
I recognize the good, too. But we're talking about slavery, and how the nation with the best way of life on earth (your words) took way longer to abolish it than most others.
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Rainman420 said:This election is bigger than right vs left, or Trumpme vs Hilarythem. It's about taking back our country, I don't understand how people can't see that.
Said every politician in every race ever
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This is what I don't get. What is it you want to take back?
How far back do you want to go?
What do you want to get rid of(of course besides ACA)?
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Can we take Glass Steagall Act back and break the big banks?
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sweeper54 said: Can we take Glass Steagall Act back and break the big banks?
No, Bill Clinton would get pissed off.
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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
#23734182 - 10/13/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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SO?
A lot of people don't want to go backwards for good or bad.
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