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qman
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hostileuniverse said: White and hot is irrelevent, she's successful and can sustain herself.
The only person who she is leeching off of is Trump
She's not a drain on the taxpayers
Not so with the rest of the illegal immigrants here with their anchor babies
Illegal IS Illegal
So you're saying the ALL illegals are leeching off the government and not contributing?
Current Tax Contributions According to ITEP’s estimates, which do not count federal taxes, undocumented immigrants paid $11.6 billion in state and local taxes in 2013. This includes: $7 billion in sales taxes, $1.1 billion in income taxes, and $3.6 billion in property taxes. Tax payments ranged from $2.2 million in Montana, which is home to only 4,000 undocumented immigrants, to $3.1 billion in California, with an undocumented population numbering more than 3 million. Six states—California, Texas, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, and Florida—derived the most revenue from taxes paid by undocumented immigrants (Figure 1). In 2013, the average effective state and local tax rate of undocumented immigrants—that is, the share of their total income which they paid in taxes—was 8 percent, compared to 5.4 percent for the top 1 percent of all taxpayers.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/adding-billions-tax-dollars-paid-undocumented-immigrants
The No-Crime Wave
Once immigrants arrive in the U.S. illegally, do they commit crimes? Of course, in any group of millions of people, there will be those who engage in violent felonies, but the numbers here are not statistically significant. Rubén Rumbaut, a professor of sociology at the University of California, Irvine, noted in a 2007 report for the Immigration Policy Center (now part of the American Immigration Council) that even though the number of undocumented immigrants doubled from 1994 to the record level of 12 million in 2007, the violent crime rate in America dropped 34 percent, and the property crime rate fell 26 percent. That same report found that Mexican immigrants—including those who entered the U.S. legally and illegally—had an incarceration rate in 2000 of 0.7 percent, one-eighth the rate of native-born Americans of Mexican descent and lower than that of American-born whites and blacks of similar socioeconomic status and education. And repeated studies have found that areas with high concentrations of workers without documentation—such as El Paso—are among the safest cities in the country. The 2010 census data reveal that young, poorly educated men in the U.S. from Mexico, El Salvador and Guatemala—the bulk of the population of immigrants who live in the country illegally—have incarceration rates significantly lower than those of native-born young men without a high school diploma.
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/10/23/myths-half-truths-about-immigration-reform-382855.html

They use multiples more than they contribute in taxes, that's the issue.
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sweeper54



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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
#23721639 - 10/09/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What kind of fucking question is that?
No I think we need more, especially in the southern states.
So what is you're
Nearly 500K foreigners overstayed visas in 2015
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/01/19/immigration-visa-overstays-department-of-homeland-security-report/79026708/
Fewer immigrants are entering the U.S. illegally, and that’s changed the border security debate
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/flow-of-illegal-immigration-slows-as-us-mexico-border-dynamics-evolve/2015/05/27/c5caf02c-006b-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html
From 2009 to 2014, 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S. for Mexico, according to data from the 2014 Mexican National Survey of Demographic Dynamics (ENADID). U.S. census data for the same period show an estimated 870,000 Mexican nationals left Mexico to come to the U.S., a smaller number than the flow of families from the U.S. to Mexico.
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/
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870,000 is still a lot and way too much, the actual numbers coming here aren't as much of a concern as the fact we have no idea who they are, we can't screen them, and have absolutely no say in who comes in and who don't. THAT'S what needs to change
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And your suggestion is to build a wall, correct? One with a golden gate and a big fat "Trump enterprises" enblazened across it.
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elax420
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Less then a month till Election Day
Trump is done.
As long as Hillary doesn't die between now and then she has this in the bag
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sweeper54



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I think there is still a manure spreader with her name on it coming out of the barn.
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sweeper54 said: I think there is still a manure spreader with her name on it coming out of the barn.
you realize a manure spreader is what helps crops grow right?
you sound so dumb right now man lol. (no offense that was just a terrible analogy)
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sweeper54



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Have you ever seen a manure spreader work?
Do you realize that a manure spreader throws shit into the air and stinks up the surrounding country side for miles?
You sound like a smart city boy.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Some farmer took one of those bad boys to the regional MP's office in my hometown years ago. I thought it was fucking hilarious.
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sweeper54 said: Have you ever seen a manure spreader work?
Do you realize that a manure spreader throws shit into the air and stinks up the surrounding country side for miles?
You sound like a smart city boy.
uhh yea...and even though its shit that shit is being used to grow plants in the soil in which the shit is spread lol
do you not understand that?
on another note i do agree that something may be yet to come that will do hillary in, but the blow trumps taken recently is pretty damn bad
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Why are you bitching about the sweet country air? Sometimes a filthy tanker will go by and it will get nasty though haha.
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Moderater: So Trump, how do you respond to criticism of the comments youve made about women?
Trump: Its something, it happened, i'm not proud of it, its just one of those things, i'm going to fuck up ISIS. I'm going to fuck up ISIS so much, like MEGA.
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Honestly this debate was quite entertaining.
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Re: Trump [Re: Tipote]
#23724335 - 10/10/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The fat lady is singing. Put a fork in him. He's done.
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qman
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Brian Jones said: The fat lady is singing. Put a fork in him. He's done.
Maybe you didn't hear, Trump WON the debate bigtime last night.
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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
#23724427 - 10/10/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Russia won the debate. Hillary and Trump made themselves look like bickering children. It's an embarrassing time to be an American.
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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
#23724461 - 10/10/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trump's tape, not only brags about felony sexual assault, then brags how he gets away with it by using his power of celebrity and position. Abuse of power designed to intimidate, scare, traumatize, threaten with retribution to his victims. A true predator has shown himself.
And this is an acceptable candidate for President of the United States?
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sweeper54



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Re: Trump [Re: qman]
#23724495 - 10/10/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said:
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Brian Jones said: The fat lady is singing. Put a fork in him. He's done.
Maybe you didn't hear, Trump WON the debate bigtime last night.
Won the debate lost the election.
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Re: Trump [Re: Tipote]
#23724561 - 10/10/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cooper asked Trump 4 times if he had ever done the things he was talking about on the access hollywood tape. Trump never denied that he had! And he promised to put Clinton in prison!?
Whatever you thought of the debate, it was dramatic.
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Trump did deny it.
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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil] 4
#23724585 - 10/10/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Summer 2016: Republicans panicking about men groping their daughters in Target bathrooms.
Fall 2016: Republicans voting for man who brags about groping women.
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