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I refuse to vote because im not voting for Hillary Clinton she said she doesn't want to support the NRA and will possibly create a bunch of drama and ban assault weapons which is absolutely sinister. I dont think its ok to make us all sitting ducks she is like a farmer marching her cattle to the slaughter. If they ban the AR-15 and AK-47 im going to get seriously pissed off american soldiers died defending this country (and the fourth amendment) and she wants to take gun rights over some limp dick half retard jihad shooting up orlando the very same enemy our soldiers die fighting.
Every anti gun sand in vagina Nazi jumps all over this shit but out of all the AR-15s produced only a small fraction will ever take another human being life most are used on the range or by collectors. Its not the guns fault its the asshole pulling the trigger and aiming it, the AR-15 did nothing wrong otherwise we should charge the glock (and not dylan roof) for the Charleston shooting because for some retard reason politicians think its an excuse to restrict our freedom by blaming the gun and not the individuals actions.
Even if they ban guns someone could still kill massive amounts of people with explosives or poison gas. Uncle festers book silent death is clear example of this you could hurt a lot more people using that book than you could with a gun. If they ever take gun rights it wouldn't be hard to make something a lot more sinister than AR-15 a gas bomb filled with phosphine would be far worse phosphine poisoning has no cure no antidote just death. Imagine a bomb like that going off in times square possibly thousands of people would be severely injured and might later die. War gas is not like a gun there's no noise some no smell just death it could be hours of exposure before the authorities even had a clue the public was under attack and the attacker could be long gone. At least with a gun its obvious a attack is in place with war gas its not and you think swat will expose themselves to WW1 style gas you have another thing coming. A smart man could cause more damage with that book than even a single navy seal fully armed. We can kill a single man with a gun you can't kill a gas.
Also im not voting for trump because Mexicans have been building this country for the last 30 years our buildings and roads are often built using laborers from mexico. Its sad to think that after building our roads schools and buildings we would deport them they do more work than most Americans. The least we could do is let them stay here I mean what if it was you building things for this country? would you not expect the same rights as everyone else I dont see rich assholes at wall street building roads if you built something for this country should you not at least have the right to live in it or more of a right than the rich assholes that do next to nothing and make millions? I can say Mexicans have contributed to society they build our roads schools buildings what have the wall street guys done? Nothing but make themselves a fortune at least the Mexicans build stuff we use and not just blow money on coke and prostitutes like wall street.
But that's why im not voting this year trumps a chump and hillary is an ati gun politician with practically the same views as obama. Shit aint going to change people it will be the same bullshit we encounter with obama (weed being more federally illegal and supposedly addictive than meth and cocaine). Fuck the world I want freedom and decent drug laws how they can say LSD or weed is more addictive than meth makes no fucking since especially since you can only drop acid once every two weeks for max effect. How a drug you can only do once every two weeks is 4 times more addictive than xanax which can kill you from withdrawal is a mystery. Our government is absolutely Retarded with a capital R the good drugs (weed mescaline LSD DMT psilocybin) are "bad" (schedule 1) and the bad drugs (meth cocaine oxycontin xanax) "good" (schedule 2 to 4) it makes no sense. That and the fact that it costs taxpayers $100 dollars per prisoner a day to keep them locked up for shit like plants I see no difference between weed and tobacco except tobacco is far more carcinogenic but the tobacco farmer gets a free pass even though its a far more deadly and addictive plant. I hate our government and policies for solid reasons I hate everything about this country except for its people Americans are chill its our government and policy's thats corupt.
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sweeper54



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There is more to this election then lil'dick and cunt women. check out Independent Candidate Evan Mcmullen.
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Great Scott
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Evan McMullen is CIA. No thanks.
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hostileuniverse
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The Ecstatic said: I figured we gotta go back to basics with HU. Start with grammar, slowly work our way up to rationale and deductive reasoning.
Yes, when you can't debate facts, play the grammar nazi, how intellectual of you
So what's "your" response to democrats writing, and using, the tax law that allowed Trump to write off 900 million in losses? Nothing? More insults? What a joke your posts are
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The Ecstatic
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You project at the level of a 13 year old girl. Hows that?
As for what I think of the law, its dogshit. Thats why I supported the campaign of the candidate who's #1 priority was getting money out of politics. That way billionaires like Trump cant buy off politicians.
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Webster10
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That guy literally got bought off or possibly even threatened by Clinton. What a cuck. How's your mom's basement by the way? Do you have no hope? That's what Hillary purported and Sanders agrees. "She's absolutely correct."
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The Ecstatic
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Why does Sanders following through with his promise of endorsement some nefarious thing to you? Why did he have to be bought off, or threatened? So ridiculous.
As has been established already here ad nauseum: Bernie endorsed Hillary as promised, and seeing as how his campaign far exceeded even his own expectations, he got a vast majority of his agenda on the official DNC platform.
I could give a fuck anymore what Hillary or Donald say. I don't like either of them. Don't support either of them. But only one of them will give Bernie and his supporters the opportunity to tackle some of that agenda.
I really don't know whats so hard to understand about that. Seems the Trump campaign's plan to shit talk Bernie supporters into voting Trump isn't working all that well. We all donated well over $200,000,000 to help Bernie fight Hillary, but we'd still almost all rather vote for her than Trump. You can call it cuckolding, selling out, whatever you'd like. I'll call it pragmatism, and common sense.
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hostileuniverse
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Bernie is an irrelevant old sellout, I'm glad he's gone
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The Ecstatic
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He'll have a larger say in where America heads come January than Trump will
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akira_akuma
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you don't know wtf you're talking about. you take sides. that's it. that is literally all you do. you can't comprehend wtf Sanders actually brought to the table, anyways, but that's besides the point. you are a partisan hack.
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Crumist
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Re: Trump [Re: Enlil]
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ballsalsa said: so a disabled, and chronically ill veteran without private medical insurance, and who has 7 kids should pay the highest tax rate then?
Rate? No. Amount? Maybe.
So you are saying might be a "fair" rate, but not a practical rate. This might meet some philosophical value of fair:
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According to contribution-based theories, goods should be distributed to match an individual's contribution to the overall social good. Wikipedia on fairness
But I'd subscribe to fairness in our tax rates that is meritocratic(talent+effort) while taking into account needs (which are quantifiable as opposed to "merit"). EDIT:Quote:
According to needs-based theories, goods, especially such basic goods as food, shelter and medical care, should be distributed to meet individuals' basic needs for them. According to contribution-based theories, goods should be distributed to match an individual's contribution to the overall social good." -link above
Edited by Crumist (10/04/16 11:09 AM)
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hostileuniverse
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The Ecstatic said: He'll have a larger say in where America heads come January than Trump will 
You think hillary is gonna let him tank the economy like he wants to? I've said for months now, Hillary is preferable to Bernice because his economics plan is a bunch of shit, hers is bad but it's not BATSHIT crazy
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akira_akuma
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Sanders' plan was fine. an injection of socialism would have been good for America.
there is enough resources, and enough people to drive the economy, and with that incentive, it could have boosted the economy, though, it would have kept production down in certain manufacturing, such as defence (but not weapons, clearly Bernie was a fan of fun guns), and perhaps due to ill-deference from certain company CEOs, and shareholders, based on a political activism & promulgation against the adhering structure of their contribution (suddenly) to the state (as opposed to simply having the lower and middle class take up the slack for them, by way of taxes).
then you suddenly have less corporate power in government.
but no...nooooooo. Trump.
won't raises taxes on the rich, but will on the middle class...i hope you're making good enough money already, or can find a way to make some cash on the side. get a business licence to get the best out of Trump. business will be good, that's at least a plus.
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hostileuniverse
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See? Now you're making sense, businesses create jobs, so "good for business" is good for America
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Crumist
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akira_akuma said: Sanders' plan was fine. an injection of socialism would have been good for America.
Theres been much discussion about how Sanders hardly fits the definition of a socialist.
And Sanders will remain a senator while Trump will return to being a tabloid celebrity
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hostileuniverse
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Yes, the old bastard will continue to live off the taxpayers while producing nothing,
If not elected, Trump will go back to building empires and making money, creating jobs, and being a productive member of society
If not elected, Hillary will go back to writing books no one reads and giving top secret speeches to the big banks
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Crumist
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Dilbert principle then. Vote for Hillary so that Trump can get back to being productive.
You said it though, not me
-------------------- 'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704
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The Ecstatic
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akira_akuma
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hostileuniverse said: See? Now you're making sense, businesses create jobs, so "good for business" is good for America
i told you, i'm for Trump. i told all you ninnys all ready, GO TRUMP. i just don't suck his fucking dick, and i realize that his plan is only a minimal step in the de-ninnification of America, and by that i mean, de-corrupting it from the mass influence of the current power structure. the fact that Trump invalidates that structure is why i can opt for his being a decent presidential choice, but only if he keeps his airs to a minimum and doesn't pull the US into more territory they don't want to be in, by way of his own schemes. keep to the brain trust, essentially. you looked up that term yet, "brain trust"?
Trump used to be flipped on all sorts of things, you know that. it's because of his brain trust that he can do anything presidential. his "business plan" for America IS a GOOD THING, but it's still not enough...even from the conservative point of view, he's not really fixing anything.
raising the tax on the rich would be a good thing too.
you do all that, you can eventually see a flat tax, like "the good ole' days". 
but don't listen to me. just research "brain trust". and yeah, i'm not an anti-Trumper, as far as this election goes. Trump stands for one good thing, and that's that he recognizes that America relies on it's business, it's a business entity, essentially, and it's how the citizens of America can make the most use of themselves...as long as nothing converts back to "Christian persecution" after Trump is out, though, well, that's i guess, another story.
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akira_akuma
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an American libertarian success would be to pull out military from all regions, insularize, and try to reform policy to reflect fairly on the demographic regions in the world, that are effected by American economy.
an American conservative success would be to make it impossible to make tax loop-holes accessible to anyone, to achieve a flat tax, so that they are only taxed marginally, so they can save their money (and be able to liquidate their assets, if they are a small business), and they could then have incentive to employment.
an American liberal success would be to see a progressive tax rate, and social programs, to allow them to go to school, and start their businesses, and fight not to be beholden to outside corporate influence; and alongside that, a little of column A (pull military out) and B (fix tax loop-holes, and raise tax bracket on the wealthiest 1 percent).
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