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the only thing that will keep trump from the nomination is a brokered convention. Kasich and Rubio are too proud to drop out so Trump will continue to pull the lion's share of delegates in proportional states.
It's too little too late, imo. The RNC manages to screw up the presidential election more and more every cycle.
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fivepointer said: It is laughable to see Trump make pretend he is a Christian. Everyone can see that he is not. He should just stop it, it is horrible thing to witness.
And yet evangelicals eat it right up.
I guess right wing Christians have a penchant for authoritarian xenophobia (wonder where they got that from).
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starfire_xes said: ....and the herd baaaaaa's happily as Blowhard leads them towards the cliffs....
to be fair Cruz is much more of a Christian fascist and there are plenty of lemmings swan diving for him as well.
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usually qman is pretty rational, but trump plays on his fear of immigrants pretty well apparently.
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Re: Trump [Re: qman] 2
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The Ecstatic said: usually qman is pretty rational, but trump plays on his fear of immigrants pretty well apparently.
I have always advocated for the enforcement of immigration laws, that's not a fear.
I care about the ten's of millions of blacks and Hispanics that don't have any employment because of illegals taking their jobs, why don't you care about America's poor and disadvantaged?
Terrorism is a real problem, too. That doesn't mean I'm voting for Trump because he says he'll stop it.
Anecdote isn't going to influence my vote, nor is policy plans that seem to be written by a high school student on the bus on his way to class.
Trump has correctly identified two problems. Actually, one isn't even a problem, its a symptom of a problem. But that doesn't mean he has a solution...
Any moron can criticize...
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Re: Trump [Re: qman] 4
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The Ecstatic said: usually qman is pretty rational, but trump plays on his fear of immigrants pretty well apparently.
I have always advocated for the enforcement of immigration laws, that's not a fear.
I care about the ten's of millions of blacks and Hispanics that don't have any employment because of illegals taking their jobs, why don't you care about America's poor and disadvantaged?
Terrorism is a real problem, too. That doesn't mean I'm voting for Trump because he says he'll stop it.
Anecdote isn't going to influence my vote, nor is policy plans that seem to be written by a high school student on the bus on his way to class.
Trump has correctly identified two problems. Actually, one isn't even a problem, its a symptom of a problem. But that doesn't mean he has a solution...
The fact that he has addressed two key issues that the R's and D's have ignored for decades is very important.
"But that doesn't mean he has a solution"
Maybe it does, the fact that the subject matter if finally being addressed is the most important aspect. Obama has not only admitted that globalization is a fact of life, he's a supporter of it (TPP).
But....Bernie has addressed those issues as well, and actually has a plan to solve them. Actually, not maybe.
I get the feeling you're against Bernie because you don't want to bubble in a name with a D next to it.
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Bernie wants a path to citizenship for illegals already here, and comprehensive reform overall. Besides, fixing the trade deals would alleviate some of the immigration problem.
So basically the only thing keeping you from voting for Sanders is amnesty? Is that really a good tradeoff for all of Trump's baggage?
Edit: And like wolf said, Bernie has been consistently fighting poor trade deals for decades, whilst Trump has been profiting off of them. So....
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I appreciate that sentiment, but I'm trying to figure out why it's 1. Trump and 2. Bernie.
Is it solely immigration?
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the way trump reacts....
So strength. much great. wow.
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akira_akuma said: we can all find common ground in logic.
(well, not really.)
logic is universal common ground.
unfortunately not everyone can find it.
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I maintain that Trump entered the race to do two things:
1. appeal to the lowest common denominator GOP voter, drowning out establishment contenders
2. use idiotic rhetoric to scare the rest of the country into voting for Hillary.
Nobody foresaw Bernie, but the establishment is throwing sinks at him. The rest is working like a charm.
Honestly, at this point, does anyone besides the gullible trumpster sluts dispute it?
"No oooo wwaaaayyyy, the establishment would never collude!" And make no mistake, Trump is part of the establishment. He's never held public office, great. Neither has David Koch or Sheldon Adelson.
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Constant handholding
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zappaisgod said: I don't either but it sure is a prevalent idea in the greater "progressive" universe.
Weird. I'm about as left as it gets and I never see anyone talk about banning guns. I dont see leftist politicians proposing it, leftist voters, leftist media, leftist forums...
Yet another strawman conjured up to strike fear into the base.
"Get out and vote Corporate or the nigger will take your guns!" Copyright 2014.
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Who wouldve thought itd be easier to write off 2/3rds of the human race rather an accept the economy is a little more complex than a casserole recipe?
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zappaisgod said: I don't either but it sure is a prevalent idea in the greater "progressive" universe.
Weird. I'm about as left as it gets and I never see anyone talk about banning guns. I dont see leftist politicians proposing it, leftist voters, leftist media, leftist forums...
I've heard Obama and Hillary, basically the two most powerful figures in leftist politics today, both elude to it, not commit political suicide and come right out and say it, but yes, they both have eluded to it.
Maybe you're just not paying attention
Allude*
And no, they havent.
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hostileuniverse said: Are you retarded?
When Hillary and Obama cite countries that have confiscated guns and say we should follow their lead, that's not "alluding" to it?
You dont have to put allude in quotes since its the correct word.
Read a dictionary if youre gonna flame.
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I'm sure Obama and Hillary cite Saudi Arabia often, does that mean they support and want to implement the entirety of their policies?
No. Stop being stupid.
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The Ecstatic said: I'm sure Obama and Hillary cite Saudi Arabia often, does that mean they support and want to implement the entirety of their policies?
No. Stop being stupid.
If they said, "we should follow Saudi Arabia policy on X Y or Z" then yeah, I'd think they would want those same policies on "X Y or Z"
That's what they have done with gun control
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zappaisgod said: There is nothing inherently corrupt about campaign financing by corporations.
Inherent, no.
Life wasnt inherent to the universe though yet here we are.
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