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InvisibleKurt
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Re: Trump [Re: Tropism]
    #22197340 - 09/06/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think what most people see in trump is face value. The guy can't be bought, as he loves to say, he "isn't politically correct", and mostly, that look on his face like someone farted, seems to belong in Washington.

I have heard in general we kick start our campaigns pretty early compared to the rest of the world. Maybe it is to see what kind of steam politicians have in them or if they are just blowhards.


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InvisibleKurt
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Re: Trump [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22199249 - 09/06/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Donald Trump is an asshole. How is that? He is an asshole of borderline tourettes syndrome calibar.

Granted, after saying that I think maintaining a semblance of what he stands for in conservative values, or our general process in general, is somehow maybe important or still suggestive. I think we have to believe we have a choice, (whether this speaks directly to the Mencken quote or not.) One way to put it, is we seem to lack authentic conservative values, and that place is being filled by Trump. At least he isn't standing for baptist churches. You had to guess it would somehow swing back hard from Obama though. He is the materialistic CEO as church and God.

Trump's response to being a mysoginist is a good example of how he works, I'd say. At the republican convention he said "I think American politics have gotten really politically correct..." or whatever, a line that lately gets applauded for its own sake. Then a day or two later, outside the republican forum naturally in an interview he said that the woman who asked him the question about his views on women was "bleeding out of her somewhere." It would be almost comical, if it were not that he were a leading candidate.

Can a group of people can imagine there is a generalizable problem with "political correctness", without realizing that this kind of whining is just icing on the same cake? It is unapologetic beliggerance as well, and I wonder how aside from representing that, Trump will find concelience in so called core conservative values even though they will applaud anything resembling that.

I don't think genuine concerns are being brought out where something could be stood for in a genuine and positive way.

For instance on issues like ecology and agricultural bio-technology, thanks to the intellectual atmosphere, any issue here is being posed in oversimplification as falsification of what is "unscientific", or "anti-scientific", and there is no apparent dialogue about how technology or ecology has anything to do with people and how human beings exist in the world. On issues like this it seems like the left really is browbeating, and aside from clarifying sexism, racism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc, they seem a bit convinced by some notion of assembly line progress.

So I think maybe Trump could in a way be a sting of conscience...at least in a broader philosophical discussion of democratic values, even if expediently making the right points is necessary in a political forum. How is it possible to bring a nation out of the spectrum of reactions, and falsification of positions, to stand for something?


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