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 Re: unexplained ancient artifacts  [Re: Shroomslip]
#22197073 - 09/06/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said:
The vonyich is one of the things I want answers to the most. Possible it was just some fantasy novel type shit, but it's intriguing anyways.
The vonyich manuscipt is a legitimate artifact. The vonyich manuscipt has been confirmed to be dated from the 1400s I believe, and has yet to be deciphered....so I'm not sure I understand the fantasy novel comment
Another indecipherable object is The Phaistos Disc
Yves Duhoux (1977) dates the disc to between 1850 B.C. and 1600 B.C. (MMIII) on the basis of Luigi Pernier's report, which says that the Disc was in a Middle Minoan undisturbed context. Jeppesen (1963) dates it to after 1400 (LMII-III). Doubting the viability of Pernier's report, Louis Godart (1990) resigns himself to admitting that archaeologically, the disc may be dated to anywhere in Middle or Late Minoan times (MMI-LMIII, a period spanning most of the second millennium B.C.). J. Best suggests a date in the first half of the fourteenth century B.C. (LMIIIA) based on his dating of tablet PH 1.-Wikipedia
I'm very interested in anagrams and cryptography, so these objects have fascinated me, these unbreakable codes.
-E. Borodin
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: koraks]
#22197075 - 09/06/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're right, science is a human affair and therefore subject to human flaws. Let's hope the method itself and the many scientists with an ambition to actually do the right thing will help to keep it on track.
Agreed.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=78SM_X3Xti8
·The Baigong Pipes
naturally occuring like the Navajo pipes
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Stone spheres of Costa Rica
carved by people
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·Roman dodecahedron
bronze casting, probably just decorative
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·Gold "air-planes of south America
stylized, zoomorphic depiction of some kind, probably a bird
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·The London Hammer
cementation of a more modern hammer such as was produced in the 1800s into an
existing rock layer by soluble minerals in that rock
now they're explained
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Gobekli tepe also was not a living center, a town or a city, it was a temple built in the middle of nowhere essentially, a gathering point for several cultures, as the stone animal reliefs depict animals not native to the region, perhaps it does symbolize the point when Neolithic transitioned to agriculture, but at the same time the accepted theories say these people were not in possession of the tools necessary to build a gobekli tepe at that time, so something must be altered.
stone can be used to carve and shape stone
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197267 - 09/06/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for explaining it all pris. Some op's expect others to do the research, can't be bothered to make a one paragraph explanation of what they are talking about.
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Stonehenge]
#22197379 - 09/06/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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·The Baigong Pipes
i wonder why there are just so few pictures, and none of them are of the same pipe? and all of the pictures are really shitty quality? seems sketch to me
i wonder if they are still being studied or anything
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Adolin]
#22197409 - 09/06/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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very cool thread guys. Loving all the intricate responses
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I really don't see how the Baigong Pipes are that mysterious. Its crazy that people see these same things and jump to 'ancient aliens' and shit like that
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Adolin]
#22197482 - 09/06/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gresh said:
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·The Baigong Pipes
i wonder why there are just so few pictures, and none of them are of the same pipe? and all of the pictures are really shitty quality? seems sketch to me
i wonder if they are still being studied or anything
it's because china wont allow any studies to be done and it's still only a minor tourist attraction
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197662 - 09/06/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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what a bunch of tightasses
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Adolin] 1
#22197667 - 09/06/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sorry man...
"it was all aliens... Woo0oO000ooooo"
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197716 - 09/06/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The roman dodechahedron is the most interesting, not because I think its got any association with aliens or any of the conspiracy type theories, but because its interesting to speculate what it was used for.
Candle holder theory doesn't make much sense based on its shape.
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Ezuma]
#22198033 - 09/06/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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all these things have reasonable and likely explanations. Lol the gold airplanes - obviously they are birds. The fact this guy included those doesn't inspire much faith that he knows what has and hasn't been explained.
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: koods]
#22198045 - 09/06/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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cementation of a more modern hammer such as was produced in the 1800s into an
existing rock layer by soluble minerals in that rock
just looking at it you can tell it is some kind of stalagmite type rock.
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: koods]
#22198058 - 09/06/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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These ancient aliens type shows are pretty amusing I recall one where a crappy wooden toy bird was being described as 'proof the Egyptians had the power of flight' which in turn somehow proved ancient aliens gave them that knowledge
I wonder what % of viewers actually take these kinds of things at face value and believe them...
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Shroomslip said:
The vonyich is one of the things I want answers to the most. Possible it was just some fantasy novel type shit, but it's intriguing anyways.
The vonyich manuscipt is a legitimate artifact. The vonyich manuscipt has been confirmed to be dated from the 1400s I believe, and has yet to be deciphered....so I'm not sure I understand the fantasy novel comment
Another indecipherable object is The Phaistos Disc
Yves Duhoux (1977) dates the disc to between 1850 B.C. and 1600 B.C. (MMIII) on the basis of Luigi Pernier's report, which says that the Disc was in a Middle Minoan undisturbed context. Jeppesen (1963) dates it to after 1400 (LMII-III). Doubting the viability of Pernier's report, Louis Godart (1990) resigns himself to admitting that archaeologically, the disc may be dated to anywhere in Middle or Late Minoan times (MMI-LMIII, a period spanning most of the second millennium B.C.). J. Best suggests a date in the first half of the fourteenth century B.C. (LMIIIA) based on his dating of tablet PH 1.-Wikipedia
I'm very interested in anagrams and cryptography, so these objects have fascinated me, these unbreakable codes.
-E. Borodin
As in, it's possible it was just someone who was really bored making stuff up for the sake of making it up. It's filled with pictures of plants that don't exist. It could've just been a total work of fiction made purely for entertainment. I'd love to know what it says though.
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Shroomslip]
#22198206 - 09/06/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I quite liked mckenna's theory about the voyonich manuscript, that it was made specifically to capitalize on a craze for the occult and alchemy. I suspect that might be true or partly true
Edited by Ezuma (09/06/15 04:47 PM)
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Ezuma]
#22198263 - 09/06/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ezuma said:
The roman dodechahedron is the most interesting, not because I think its got any association with aliens or any of the conspiracy type theories, but because its interesting to speculate what it was used for.
Candle holder theory doesn't make much sense based on its shape.
why doesnt it make sense? not everything back them was purely function, there were
a lot of aesthetics associated with functional objects as well. given that some of
the photos I've seen have some of the sides blocked off it suggests that the
blocked side was meant to face a wall while it reflected light into a room
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Re: unexplained ancient artifacts [Re: Ezuma]
#22198362 - 09/06/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im the type to easily fall for bullcrap shows that show crazy notions being the only possible explination.I imagine there were 50 foot giants who walked around moving masive objects. and aliens rode dinosaurs, And the comets that started the ice age was actually sent by aliens, from a giant space cannon they held on the moon. And they planted a bunch of crops and wildlife. And theyre are totally invisble gnomes that run around.
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