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 Polecat
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 how easy can ps cyans cultivation be? 
#2213754 - 01/01/04 06:45 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry for the double post fellas but I wanted to know the opinion of the more experienced ones...  peace
what about just baking a simple fk cake or a grain method as in the cubies?
would this work?would the myc fruit?
seems like a simple question but I didn't found any info on this exactly...
thx folks
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 Re: how easy can ps cyans cultivation be? [Re: Polecat]
#2218260 - 01/04/04 11:17 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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They require colder temperatures to fruit and for mycelial growth than psilocybe cubensis. The mycelia can grow on grains, but they are a wood loving mushroom, and would be better off grown on wood substrates.
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Re: how easy can ps cyans cultivation be? [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
#2218343 - 01/04/04 12:11 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh, you'll get cyan mycelium to grow on grain, but good luck getting it to fruit.
Stamets suggests fresh alder chips, and I'm not aware of him ever pointing someone in the wrong direction.
I wouldn't bother with cyans if you're not using agar to isolate a pure strain and if you aren't at least doing cased tray cultures, but then again, I'd say the same thing of cubes as well.
Ultimate suggestion: read. Read, read, read read. Then try, fail, tray again, and repeat untill successful. In the end, that's how you grow anything.
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Re: how easy can ps cyans cultivation be? [Re: Teon]
#2219056 - 01/04/04 07:01 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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how about using some woodchips and grain as subtrate, and casing with horcepoo?
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Re: how easy can ps cyans cultivation be? [Re: Parpas]
#2219597 - 01/05/04 01:23 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Casing is not required - especially casing with horsepoo. Casing should not contain nutrients.
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Re: how easy can ps cyans cultivation be? [Re: Teon]
#2220871 - 01/05/04 03:07 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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hehehe good advice Teon. that's what I do and keep doing , last investiment was on the "mushroom cultivator" and if knew what I read today I would't ask that question , but I'm pretty sure I can grow ps. cyan without agar (much easier altough)...
...but probably not on the first time :P hehehe
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Re: how easy can ps cyans cultivation be? [Re: Polecat]
#2221127 - 01/05/04 05:04 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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As Zeronio said Parpas, casing is not supposed to contain nutrients, although i've heard people adding worm casting to their casing, for its structure, which does contain some nutrients. I think Anno posted a link some time ago, that mixing horse manure and woodchip in the right ratio resulted in fruits. I'd have to do a search to find it though.
As far as growing out mycelium, you could try to obtain a pure strain, and spawn it to wbs or millet (Anno spawns his ps. azurescens to millet I believe) From here you'll have to go to alder woodchips and try to get the substrate to fruit.
Stamets says:
Another Method is to use sawdust/bran or try grain spawn to innoculate corrugated cardboard. When fully colonized, sheets of cardboard are laid at the bottom of trays which are then covered with 2-4 inches of freshly cut alder chips (wood chips are far superior to sawdust as a fruiting substrate)
You could try, but better stick to Cubensis and maybe some Paneaolus first. 
Good Luck though 
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Re: how easy can ps cyans cultivation be? [Re: Polecat]
#2227526 - 01/08/04 04:21 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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im doing some ps.cyan now on agar. and yes you must have woodchips to get fruit. good luck and let me know how you go
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