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OfflineOhgeeraver
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Doing music festivals right * 1
    #21955449 - 07/17/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hi guys, new user here.

In September, I will be going to Nocturnal and will be doing some party favors. I'm an old school raver (as you can see from my sn), so i have experience taking these favors.

My question is more on the lines of preparing and what should I do while I'm there. I've been to EDC many times but usually go and do a lot of X, and then burn myself out. My main concern is about the serotonin depletion while I'm on it. I have only done shrooms in the psychedelic department and was wondering if anyone would recommend shrooms over LSD. And on that note taking ecstasy the next days, etc. I've been reading about tons of vitamins that can help with seratonin production along with lots of fruits, etc. So how exactly do I prepare? Should I be on vitamins for a week, 2 weeks, a month before the festival? How should I do the psychedelics and when should I do them? How to produce more serotonin while I'm there? And any other advice you can give. Thank you so much guys.


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OfflineWeiliithinker
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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: Ohgeeraver]
    #21955482 - 07/17/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I suggest a candy flip instead of just x or mushrooms
take one or two tabs of good L and a .2 of x and you'll be jolly
you don't need to change your diet or vitamin intake for a trip (unless your normal diet isn't nutritious), and you don't need to worry about depleting your serotonin with the combo mentioned above

welcome to shroomery :laugh:


Edited by Weiliithinker (07/17/15 10:25 AM)


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: Weiliithinker] * 1
    #21955596 - 07/17/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I would suggest a candyflip imo LSD is more for festivals than mushrooms, lasts longer and not as much of a mindfuck but that's just my opinion. I'd say time it so you make sure you're tripping when a band you like comes on, so I'd get a feel for the LSD to know how to time it out right. I'm heading to a festival tomorrow and I'll be taking at least 2 tabs about an hour after I get there, reason for that is because I know with 2 or more that I'll still be trippin while the last band plays.
Again these are all suggestions, you should do what you're comfortable with.


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: trippinlol]
    #21957810 - 07/17/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Bad drugs are easy to find at festivals.

You are wise for being concerned about serotonin. MDMA and its analogues will rob your serotonin bank of it. From my experience, and the experience of many aged psyonauts, festivals and music concerts aren't good venues for normal or large doses of psychedelics/entheogens, but that's something we all have to learn ourselves. Whatever you take, remember, less is more!


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: Benjaben92]
    #21958139 - 07/17/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Solid advice, I'd say I'm a seasoned psychonaut, and I know it's not the ideal setting but it's also not the worst, and if OP wants to try it he should that's the correct mindset, and for sure start with lower doses if you can depends on how much you think you can handle in a crowd.


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: trippinlol]
    #21959197 - 07/18/15 03:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP HERE

Thanks guys for the input. I don't intend on buying anything AT the festival, I'm going to take from people I trust from where I'm from.

Now what about all these vitamins that help produce serotonin? Should I be taking these? Should I bring to the festival? Should I eat more fruit as I read in many forums?

Thanks again


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: Ohgeeraver]
    #21960136 - 07/18/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

5HTP is a serotonin precursor, though I've heard mixed things about preloading. It would be wise to eat healthy before hand and maybe take the 5HTP to recoup. I don't think you should need it before the event as you will likely be healthy.

Fruits are never a bad thing, so why not?


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: Ohgeeraver]
    #21963585 - 07/19/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Ohgeeraver said:
OP HERE

Thanks guys for the input. I don't intend on buying anything AT the festival, I'm going to take from people I trust from where I'm from.

Now what about all these vitamins that help produce serotonin? Should I be taking these? Should I bring to the festival? Should I eat more fruit as I read in many forums?

Thanks again



So I'm back from that festival, and haha as for vitamins it's not a bad idea to take a multivitamin while you're at it especially if you're like me and you don't find food appealing during your trip. :shrug:


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Offlineakosi
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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: Ohgeeraver]
    #22126624 - 08/22/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

low dose shrooms instead of mdma, similar effects but no crash.  Just take more when you want to start tripping :smile:

Of course, I have a hard time saying no to mdma too... so just eat right and get sleep.  5-htp after the roll instead of before, taking it before will increase the effects quite a bit.  Make sure to take it on an empty stomach or less than 10% is absorbed.  A little green tea helps absorption of 5-htp a lot as well.


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: Ohgeeraver]
    #22153236 - 08/27/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Shrooms basically are serotonin. What you would want to increase is the production/amount of the enzyme that metabolizes psilocybin into psilocin. This is what creates the tolerance issues shrooms are known to have. Everytime you trip on shrooms your body uses us its stores of the enzyme monoamine oxidase (MOA)

2 nights in a row doesn't create tolerance issues if you take an amount of substance = to or greater than the substance affect from the previous night.

If you want to trip consistently with minimal risk of tolerance issues then try to get MOA's.

A good diet and a healthy lifestyle are good for increasing these things too.


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: sudly]
    #22168790 - 08/31/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Tolerance isn't caused by lack of enzymes capable of metabolizing, it's down to sensitization at the 5-ht2a receptor site.

As for minimizing the crash associated with MDMA...

The biggest tips are this to reduce/prevent MDMA neurotoxicity, this is based on scientific research.

Stay cool...  Small changes in ambient temperature can mean the difference between toxicity, and no toxicity.  One study showed no toxicity at room temperature (around 70F) but marked toxicity at the mid 80'sF.  The reason this may be is because our anti-oxidant systems become compromised at higher temps.  Which brings up the next point...

Eat anti-oxidant rich foods.  Multiple studies have shown that the toxicity is eliminated when taken in conjunction with anti-oxidants like Vit C, Vit E, and more.  Eating whole foods, fresh veggies and fruit, is ideal.  But something like the airborne tablets works well too.

Finally, frequency and dosage play an important role too.  Finding that sweetspot can mean having both a good night, and good rest of your week.  The long term changes that occur are not permanent but they are additive, so once you've gone a bit too far it takes a long time for your brain/body to recoop.

I've found Mescaline is a great alternative to MDMA, so long as you haven't burnt out on MDMA yet (tolerance seems to carry over in some ways) and studies show people who've consumed it every two weeks for years appear "normal."

-OC


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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: oG_Chemdog]
    #22174435 - 09/01/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When I hit up festivals these days, I'll preload with a single 5HTP pill in the day, take whatever in the evening and then use Benzo's to get a good sleep.

I much prefer doing 2CB at festivals. Sniffer dogs can't sniff it out and the pills can be bought in fairly easily as they're often so small, these days I also find the experience itself is much better. I find X can also get really hectic and can be really draining especially if you're hitting it for three nights in a row!


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How charged with punishments the scroll,
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Re: Doing music festivals right [Re: Rorta]
    #22195180 - 09/05/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yea. btw airborne is the placebo effect. not fda approved. not proven safe or effective for what it claims. its regulated as a food/supplement.


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