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Proper Substrate?
    #2219387 - 01/05/04 12:36 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hey, im a fairly new shroomer, at least a grower. Just wondering which substrate and tek works best for B+ and Golden Teacher, any experiences or suggestions? I think im just going to use the basic PF Tek but any input would be appreciated! Thanks.


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Yarry]
    #2219478 - 01/05/04 01:32 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Go grains....wbs kicks ass


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Yarry]
    #2219506 - 01/05/04 02:32 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

stick with the pf tek first time around,grains can be a pain in the ass untill you master them.
if you want to add a little extra kick (a lot actualy) to your pf jars then find yourself some organic hulled millet and add equal amounts of the hulled millet and brf.
ie, 2 parts verm,1 part water,1 part brf and 1 part organic hulled millet.


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Hanky]
    #2219577 - 01/05/04 03:18 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hanky , is there enough water in ur preparation , coz millet will absorb lot of water , no ?!?


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: YesItsMe]
    #2219592 - 01/05/04 03:22 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

yeah the standard amount of water is plenty from my experiments.
but you will need to dunk before fruiting as cakes.
i always case them,using the rez effect (mixing the substrate with casing media)so moisture content is not an issue.

here's 4 half pints of millet/brf cased with straight coir.



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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Hanky]
    #2219790 - 01/05/04 05:04 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Ok , now i know what AFOAF will try , thank u hanky .


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Hanky]
    #2219945 - 01/05/04 07:12 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Hanky. I am preparing my first real grow and I think after your advice I will go this route. I'm going to try this to 10 1/2 pint jars and case them. Wish me luck


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Yarry]
    #2219951 - 01/05/04 07:17 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

try brown rice flour. that's what everyone tells me so i'm just passing on the message.


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: nife]
    #2220010 - 01/05/04 08:49 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

PS. it must be hulled millet,as opposed to whole millet,which is still covered with the hard outer shell of the grain.
it's available at health food stores,it's not cheap and i haven't found a bulk supplier yet,but when you consider the value of the return it's a good investment.


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Hanky]
    #2220071 - 01/05/04 09:19 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

What do u think of simmering unhulled millet and then load it to the PF mix , or grind it ,could it work ?


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Hanky]
    #2220295 - 01/05/04 11:28 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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PS. it must be hulled millet,as opposed to whole millet,which is still covered with the hard outer shell of the grain.
it's available at health food stores,it's not cheap and i haven't found a bulk supplier yet,but when you consider the value of the return it's a good investment.




I took a regular WBS mixture, that I was using as a grain (it's mostly millet). I ground it up.

1 part ground Millet

1 part water (extra to the proper texture)

2 parts Verm.

I put 1 of Ralphsters Blue Meanie syringes to it, and 6 days later they are turning white like Michael Jackson.


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: JetBlackNinja]
    #2220336 - 01/05/04 12:59 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah how about just regular millet but ground up? Also the only BRF i can get my hands on is gluten free, which means they've removed a portion of the sugars. Is this going to be a problem, cuz i can get gluten to add to it, but im lazy! lol. Thanks for all your help too guys!


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Yarry]
    #2220380 - 01/05/04 01:22 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah how about just regular millet but ground up? Also the only BRF i can get my hands on is gluten free, which means they've removed a portion of the sugars. Is this going to be a problem, cuz i can get gluten to add to it, but im lazy! lol. Thanks for all your help too guys!




Use ground up Millet seed. BRF is inferior in every way. Just sub the BRF out for Ground Millet. I grind with a coffee grinder I got cheap at Target.


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: JetBlackNinja]
    #2220419 - 01/05/04 01:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

is it just as easy? this is my first time growing with the PF tek and i jus wanna make sure i know all about it before i start. Also would anyone be willing to send me a spore print on goodwill? It would be greatly appreciated!


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Yarry]
    #2220448 - 01/05/04 01:59 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

YarryShroomer , for ur first time , go with Anno's Tek , its the easy way , really ...


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: YesItsMe]
    #2220462 - 01/05/04 02:04 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

What are proper ratios, i always thot 2verm:1grain:1water but annos calls for much less grain.. theres so many to choose from lol i jus wanna find the one that most people have had success with.. thanks for all your help too guys!


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Re: Proper Substrate? [Re: Yarry]
    #2220504 - 01/05/04 02:24 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

The reason u should start with this tek is that u will find the right ratio of water . Anno use less brf than the original , coz he tends to use less water .
This tek can't failed , that was my friend's fisrt success ! :wink:


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