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uninc4life2010
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If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush?
#22193348 - 09/05/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I currently have two monotubs in fruting, and I was wondering if I can forego misting and fanning with properly dialed in mono's?

Here is a picture of one of the tubs. The other is identical. I tried to follow Frank's advice on stuffing the holes lightly with poly to allow for adequate gas exchange. I have a ceiling fan running in the room which I only keep on a low setting. I fear that medium or high would dry out the tubs too quickly. I misted the substrate once right after I birthed them yesterday, but it's been about 24 hours since with no misting or fanning.
I've always fanned and misted 3x a day with a fair amount of success in the past. I'm just concerned of the mycelium getting too dry, or not enough fresh air making through by not fanning. Any advice?
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22193358 - 09/05/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shouldn't have to fan and mist at all
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: Grim767]
#22193381 - 09/05/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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there isnt much point in fanning a monotub, however if it isnt dialed in you may have to mist it. look at the sub surface to judge.
that's a strange design tho, most designs have at least a couple holes at sub level.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: spacechildo]
#22193843 - 09/05/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like to give em a good burst of fresh air every once in a while during pinning but that's more of a good luck ritual 
If it's correctly dialed in, its more or less set &forget.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: sooperdooper]
#22193933 - 09/05/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
sooperdooper said: I like to give em a good burst of fresh air every once in a while during pinning but that's more of a good luck ritual 
If it's correctly dialed in, its more or less set &forget.
Thanks!
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22194024 - 09/05/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Monotubs are for lazy people, which is why I love them. Once dialed in, the ideal monotub should not have to be touched one time until harvest.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: Buck513]
#22194079 - 09/05/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buck513 said: Monotubs are for lazy people, which is why I love them. Once dialed in, the ideal monotub should not have to be touched one time until harvest.
Agreed.
Though, a little misting/fanning can help as well. Some of my best tubs were totally left alone after dialing in, though.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22194996 - 09/05/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly, the only thing that concerns me is the substrate drying out. But if I notice condensation on the sides of the tub, I guess that means there still is a relatively high humidity level within, and there would still be condensation on the substrate as well. It makes sense there would be condensation spread evenly throughout the tub, and that if there is condensation present on the sides, there must also be condensation on the underside of the lid and surface. That is my basic reasoning. So I guess that misting would only be necessary if condensation started to disappear. Feel free to check my reasoning on that one.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22195077 - 09/05/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well getting a sub too wet is worse than letting it get too dry. If your sub maintains little beads of moisture on the surface then it is perfectly fine.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: Buck513]
#22195347 - 09/06/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can I ask this here, it has to do with dialing?
How can I increase fae but also increase humidity. My tubs are drying out where I have to mist about twice a day but there's hardly any rings around the holes.
Edited by motherchimp (09/06/15 12:53 AM)
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: motherchimp]
#22195394 - 09/06/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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if your tubs are drying out that fast why would you want more fae? you could use a humidifier in the fruiting room, I guess its winter and air is dry down under now?
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: motherchimp]
#22195403 - 09/06/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your sub was probably too dry when you spawned it.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: Buck513]
#22195408 - 09/06/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guess I'll just keep stuffing the holes tighter, the bottom ones I couldn't stuff any tighter even if I wanted to.
I guess it was the sub then, the pins are really dry, cracking and opening really early even with my regular misting. Maybe time for a mid flush dunk, thanks.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: motherchimp]
#22195413 - 09/06/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you check field capacity before you spawned? Pics would also help.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: Buck513]
#22195485 - 09/06/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah but I guess it was on the dry side. The small blue spots are from a few I just picked because the tiny caps were well opened.
 

Looks kinda funky, like somethings off.
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: motherchimp]
#22195750 - 09/06/15 05:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: Nature Boy]
#22196956 - 09/06/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had this same question when I started monotubs. And I think good people are in both camps... setandforget vs. helicopterparenting. I'm lazy and too busy to futz daily with my tubs, so I set about trying to dial in my tubs. (franks dial in tek was my guide). I found it more difficult than I would have expected, especially because I consider myself good at such things. My yields were dramatically better after I got it right. I am suspicious that people that don't put in the time to dial in their tubs are drawn to mist and fan to make things better for their crops. I have a hard time seeing my crops benefit from misting and fanning at this point. It took me months of trial and error to get it right. Fan placement was my greatest challenge, as I grown in a small closet. Hot tip ~ fan placed above tubs facing ceiling with tubs symmetrical in the space creates a very even airflow. That was what changed everything for me. xoxo T
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Re: If my monotubs are dialed in, should I not have to fan or mist at all during the first flush? [Re: motherchimp]
#22197007 - 09/06/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your tubs are drying out, there is too much fresh air exchange. That can happen when there is a fan in the room that is running on too high of a setting, or there isn't enough polyfil in your tub's holes. If those aren't the causes of the problem, then the next likely candidate is that your substrate wasn't hydrated to field capacity.
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